[et:qw]: International Version + german (censored) version?

(Gringo) #21

German censor’s = pussies tbh!

(Zyklon) #22

I agree.

(Dazzamac) #23

Tbh, I think german law are there for an excessive belief the games affect the persons personality and reasoning towards violence. (Delete this next bit if you feel its inappropriate) Simple fact is, the government is afraid of a generation growing up thinking this way and looking to the past they fear the consequences of a leader who thinks like this.

(Ragnar_40k) #24


http://www.bundespruefstelle.de/bpjm/information-in-english.html

  1. Reasons for not indexing

Apart from the decision as to what is to be placed on the index, the question arises for the Committee as to what content is not to be indexed. Based on decisions of the Committee of Twelve, whereby indexing was rejected, these are in the field of

1.) Computer games

* games, whereby the injury and/or killing of people is depicted as one of many possible objects of the game and the result of fighting is presented without blood;
* games in which elements other than acts of violence against people play a significant role;
* games in which events involving killing people are portrayed so as to be distanced, that is, in a form which does not suggest parallels to reality;
* games in which events involving killing are solely portrayed against creatures which are rather unlike human beings;
* games which also contain elements of horror and spluttering, but in which parts not containing violence are decisive for the game, and whereby the horror element must not be so designed that by reason of the particular brutality, the other elements of the game recede into the background.

You must also differentiate between banned (selling and possession prohibited) and games on index (you must be 18 to buy, no public advertising etc.). E.g. the English version of RtCW was banned (national socialist symbols etc.), whilest the German version was “only” on the index (e.g. you could buy it at your local game shop or rent it in video stores).

(Dazzamac) #25

It appears my limited observation of the german legal system is fairly accurate then. Cheers

(Ragnar_40k) #26

This lists all banned and indexed games: http://www.bpjm.com/

(Gringo) #27

Its in german :weird:

(Ragnar_40k) #28

Click “Ja, ich möchte die Inhalte von bpjm.com sehen” at the left pane.

To see a list of banned games click: “Beschlagnahmt” -> Select the according paragraph from the StGB -> “Computerspiele”
To see a list of games on the index: “Indiziert” -> “Computerspiele”

(Dazzamac) #29

Damn! I really wanted to play ‘The Hitler Show’

(Sauron|EFG) #30

And? Did they ban it on that island of yours as well? :wink:

(mortis) #31

lmao!

(Rhoades) #32

I don’t understand. You want the devs to make a nerfed game for kiddie germans, while everyone else gets the stuff that is meant to be in the game? How would that work if a german player is playing against an american player? The german just wouldn’t have the weapons the american has?

(Ragnar_40k) #33

[ ] You have read the thread.
[ ] In the U.S. games don’t get rated.
[ ] <°)))><

place marks as appropriate

(nUllSkillZ) #34

Actually I’m afraid that there will be 2 versions which also might be incompatible.

Shouldn’t it be:
[ ] :tapir:

(Zyklon) #35

As long as gore isn’t there in such masses as in the Quake series, and as long as there is an emphasis on teamplay, you won’t have to worry about ETQW going onto the index.
Btw, <°)))>< is a red hareng, used to feed a troll.

(corvey) #36

As long as they have uncensored strogg tits and ass in the game, I’m ok with the 18+ rating.

All you other countries can just warez the version you need in and use your original key of the version you bought, it’s that EZ. Your breaking the law by viewing something your country says you can’t view anyway, so why not make it two broken laws by pirating the software too.

That’s just a plain old whitefish, a red rerring looks like this <°)))>< .
Trolls prefer rainbow trout <°)))>< though.

(McAfee) #37

In Theory, if you bought the game, you are entitled to all the files the software contains. And as of this day, you have the right to make backups of any software you own.

IF the german EULA is tied to the german files, then you have a legal problem. But that’s usually not the case, and the EULAs can be very “general”. So in the case of the generalized EULA, I don’t see a problem with mixing files.

Consider the scenario where your installation disk Broke or is somehow unusable.
Would it be illegal to make copy of another working disk?

Anyways, I don’t think the devs care much about how you play the game as long as you paid for it.
It’s the german goverment you have to worry about.

(petameta) #38

That’s not entirely correct, it depends. If it’s a banned game this is true, then the game wouldn’t be availabe at all in germany (i.e. nazi symbols in game). For indexed games it’s not legal to sell them to kids, butadults can buy and play them. So I’m basically just braking one law :-). It’s just that I’m too lazy to get the uncensored version, the donkey way is easier.

@McAfee: Thx, I hope this is true. I’m not sure, as I said german laws are very complicated, which tends to make those already complicated EULAs even more complicated.

I’m worrying about the german government, but because of worse things. They are really fucking things up, taking away privacy and freedom. But I guess that’s something much worse in the US at this time.

(Etnies) #39

lol Mortal Combat on the Sega got banned.

(Rhoades) #40

That’s not entirely correct, it depends. If it’s a banned game this is true, then the game wouldn’t be availabe at all in germany (i.e. nazi symbols in game). For indexed games it’s not legal to sell them to kids, butadults can buy and play them. So I’m basically just braking one law :-). It’s just that I’m too lazy to get the uncensored version, the donkey way is easier.

@McAfee: Thx, I hope this is true. I’m not sure, as I said german laws are very complicated, which tends to make those already complicated EULAs even more complicated.

I’m worrying about the german government, but because of worse things. They are really fucking things up, taking away privacy and freedom. But I guess that’s something much worse in the US at this time.[/quote]
nope. We don’t have any forbidden content just because the government thinks they know whats best for everyone. Unless you’re looking for kiddie porn.