Don't quit playing just because of Phantom

(subtleDoll) #101
  • sorry double post *
(activeClip) #102

I think the Katana is more broken then the Invis, 1 hitting the weak classes is pretty meh, its much better balanced verse the stronger mercs

(RyePanda) #103

Is the Katana necessary? Yes, it is cool and new, but isn’t getting the first hit with a knife or bat enough? That is already a sufficient advantage in my opinion, so I don’t think the Katana needs to do significantly more damage than the knives. Perhaps it should just have longer range at the expense of a longer windup. This may balance phantom. Also the shield absorbing bullets is annoying because you could reduce him to 25% health, then he activates his armor and he instantly regains health in a sense.

(Parmenion) #104

This last patch sux, i let the game a chance to make amend for the next patch. Aim punch need to be deleted and phamtom to be nerfed.

(Old Man) #105

The shield shouldn’t soak damage, it’s enough it provides a degree of stealth. What I don’t like is how easy its to land a stab with katana, even on multiple targets. The window to hit a target with a stab is too long. This was an issue in games like Age of Chivalry too.

(Jojack) #106

One more time into the breach.

It’s not about dealing with him, that people die more, don’t know what to do etc. etc. etc.

Until you stop spouting this stuff, you won’t truly understand the problem.

Here it is…again (and while a lot of people lazily just say “he’s not balanced, I’m not gonna play”, almost everyone’s opinion is born from the following):

  1. He changes the flow of the game to be less fun for a large majority of players due to his core mechanic.

  2. When people die to Phantom, most of the time it feels like you just got beat by a no-skill mechanic that you had no opportunity to defend yourself against using your own skill. You can’t argue with feelings.

That’s it! There’s nothing in there about him being OP. There’s nothing in there that says I die to much to him. There’s nothing in there that the OP actually addresses.

It’s quite simple. It’s not so much that people are “quitting cus phantom op”. It’s more “when I have free time to game, I really don’t feel like booting up DB since Phantom was released.”

You can’t argue people into having fun. They are going to go do what they enjoy. Phantom is not what they enjoy for the vast majority of the player base.

(avidCow) #107

You don’t have to play lone wolf. He’s very effective playing with his team and treating his cloak as a pure shield.

(RuleofBooKz) #108

many times when i get killed by ghost boy in a pub its just like getting killed by an arty or airstrike u just shrug as its nothing u could do

and while some might say “stay with your team” etc well if ur on a weak pub team that doesnt know to push when they are on attack, how is “staying with your team” going to help?

its just an annoying merc thats not fun to play against that further unbalances the game rather than balances it

(PurpleNurple) #109

Yeah if you’re in a pub with randoms do not stay with your team they just get in the way of your bullets. If there is a phantom on the enemy team I hunt it down by myself. Because of his armor people play him like Leeroy Jenkins and literally run in a straight line towards you never switching to their SMG making them the easiest targets for people who pay attention. If you still can’t gun him down then it doesn’t matter what merc it was you’d be dead anyways. The most annoying Phantoms are ones like me that wall jump constantly when trying to go for a kill.

(Bu5hmast3r) #110

the next in the free rotation is phantom. Best moment to take a break of the game

(PurpleNurple) #111

Phantom is not in the next free rotation.

(Ghosthree3) #112

He means the next one I believe.

(PurpleNurple) #113

Was the next next rotation mentioned somewhere and I missed it or is it a guess like how everyone guessed this week would be phantom free rotation :stuck_out_tongue:

(boXhead) #114

Phantom is a fuc***g JOKE! I bought him today and its a really annoying merc. Please remove this merc or increase cooldown on his Q ability.

(QCAnubis3) #115

Tbh i wanted to quit when phantom came out but then i started using different classes see which could take him then i unlocked him to try his abilities now he’s easy to kill and no I don’t play phantom exclusively i prefer Nader and rhino.

(RyePanda) #116

the next in the free rotation is phantom. Best moment to take a break of the game

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Fletcher, Arty, and Fragger are the next rotation.

(debonairRogue) #117

im sorry but if somethings preventing me from having fun with my gaming experience, I will do whatever it takes to have fun again. im sometimes ok with phantom, but because he almost always wins in any encounter (that’s not to say I haven’t killed him a lot. I even faced one one on one before with my melee as kira and killed him ). It was annoying while I put up with it, but at this point if I see phantom selected in a lobby I just leave and keep looking for one without him

(Litego) #118

The merc is broken.

Heavy backstab damage, I could get that. But when he 2 hits you in the face before you can kill him, even if you react instantly to the first hit (because he’s in your face) you can’t drop him because he’s got so much HP.

I also think he should drop out of stealth when being shot.

So lower HP, lower damage and increase backstab damage to compensate and incentivize better positioning. Should be a start.

(moonlitAbility) #119

LOL too late. stealth in a fps?? total fail. actually stealth in eveyr video game is a total fail

(Alphafox) #120

That’s just your opinion son. People tend to dislike what seem out of their control, or dislike anything that they don’t even understand properly. Categorizing stealth as ‘‘fail’’ is just plainly ridiculous.

If this is the first time you see stealth in a FPS… then I don’t think you played alot of them in the first place.
Right now Phantom just need some tweaks, he might not even need it too if RedEye is released soon enough.