Does the Blishlok deserve a buff?

(Cimbaya) #1

I’ve seen a lot of people say the Blish sucks, but I’ve managed to do somewhat well with it (in pubs, of course), but I am not sure how the rest of the playerbase likes this weapon.
Does it deserve a buff?
Discuss.

(Eox) #2

This is what I used to say before the What the Dickens update, where it recieved a nice recoil and spread buff. It wasn’t the buff I hoped, but probably the one it actually deserved. I’d say that the Blishlok pretty fine now. Though if it gets buffed again, I wouldn’t mind it. :stuck_out_tongue:

(blisteringOwlNest) #3

Personally, the only thing I’d like is an improvement on the dot sight, but shoe said something about looking into sights for other guns, so they’ll probably be grouped together in one update. Fingers crossed.

(CCP115) #4

Improve sight.

Blishlok is now the best SMG/10

(Reddeadcap) #5

Blish in my opinion needs some better handling, or maybe just a smaller buff to it’s fire-rate.

What it obviously does need is just have the reticles of it’s reflex sights should be much finer, they’re too thick and low res.

(Dawnlazy) #6

The accuracy buff already made it much better, 15-20 extra RPM and it should be in line with other SMGs.

(solace_) #7

honestly wouldn’t mind a buff, but Im ok with the stats now. What I really want for the Blish is for them to change the frikken shot sound. It sounds like a pea shooter. Something a bit more powerful would be nice.

(sgtCrookyGrin) #8

Blish is interesting, I have used it many times and my opinion is that it is one of the worst weapons in this game. Now not saying you can’t use it but rather that it really is one of the worst guns in this game, hear me out. The game is centralized around CQC combat, the gun has the second slowest TTK of all the SMGs only barely beating the Hochfir, this gun is used with many CQC classes like Bushwhaker, Flethcer, Aura, etc…, thus your putting your self in a handicap. So use it at range right? Well this is an SMG that will never out perform a weapon such as the assault rifles which will always be better at that range, only benefit is that you move slightly faster and thus can dodge better. The only good thing about this gun is that it can kill 90 HP mercs the fastest in the game, besides that, it will always require a few more bullets with its damage model and very shitty RPM. What I’m trying to say is that this gun is technically one of the worst guns in this game, but you can always use it, I have used it enough times to have it be one of my most used weapons but compared to the Crotzni which is blatantly OP, this gun is weak. And to people who say “just land headshots with it and you will do fine”, what gun in this game doesn’t do well when hitting with headshots? That phrase is illogical because every weapon in this game is amazing when landing with headshots. Use any gun you want really, but remmeber that you will always get out gunned with that weapon if someone has the KEK-10, Crotzni, or SMG-9

(Sharpish101) #9

Just fix the sight and it’s golden. What people forget when they ask for it’s DPS to be upped is that DPS =/= TTK and with it’s high damage per shot, it actually already has a really competitive time to kill. The handling is awful, but that’s the balance.

(TheVulpesFox) #10

I like the Blishlok as it is (would like more initial magazines, but whatever).

(ProfPlump) #11

It’s perfectly fine the way it is - it’s not supposed to be on the same level as the other SMGs. It’s supposed to be the less powerful gun that is given to mercs who are not supposed to be so dominant in shooting combat (Aura, Fletcher). Sure, it kind of sucks for use on mercs such as Sawbonez, Phantom etc but it is also interesting for Bushwhacker as his Blishlok card comes with the best augments, but gets a downgrade on his primary weapon in the process - it gives the loadout choice some balance while maintaining variety amongst them. Sadly, this kind of balance is not perfect (Steady isn’t good enough to warrant the loss of a Blishlok) and also is only seen on one or two mercs.

But basically the Blishlok is SUPPOSED to be worse than the other SMGs - stop trying to ask for buffs so that it is “in line with the other SMGs”, because that’s not what it’s designed to do.

(ProfPlump) #12

Nah man the sound is fine I reckon - the BR-16 needs a sound change the most.

(scavazzi4) #13

@ProfPlump Sawbonez has a interesting blish loadout, the BL71.
While you have the worst primary and secondary you get potent packs and unshakeable (and spares) giving Sawbonez even more survivability. and making him able to support more his allies.
Of course you’ll be missing both extra supplies and get up but the having some resistance is very nice on a medic.
Also having the worst guns won’t make you lose all the firefights, it will just make them slightly tougher.

(ProfPlump) #14

[quote=“scavazzi4;144893”]@ProfPlump Sawbonez has a interesting blish loadout, the BL71.
While you have the worst primary and secondary you get potent packs and unshakeable (and spares) giving Sawbonez even more survivability. and making him able to support more his allies.
Of course you’ll be missing both extra supplies and get up but the having some resistance is very nice on a medic.
Also having the worst guns won’t make you lose all the firefights, it will just make them slightly tougher.[/quote]

Yeah Sawbonez does get some good augments on his Blishlok cards, but his augments on his Crotzni/SMG-9 ones are just as good/better than those augments. Having Extra Supplies is amazing (CR81, SM72), or Potent Packs (CR73/42), Get Up (CR73, SM72), Mechanic (CR73) and Drilled (CR42) are hugely beneficial.
Basically the BL71 card gets two good augments and a lackluster primary weapon, wheareas all the others have two good augments but have a good primary weapon - the balance isn’t good enough. I think they should take away BL71’s Spares and give it Extra Supplies instead, or Get Up maybe… It even has the Caulden as the sidearm - meh.

(TndY) #15

Blishlok is fine. I was surprised to find out it got a buff recently lol, it must be so beast now.
Don’t think of it as an smg tho.

(LifeupOmega) #16

Blish has a better TTK than the Hochfir, and is .1 off the SMG-9, and only .4 off of the other two SMGs.

It’s a fantastic gun if you actually learn to use it properly. The only thing I want is a god damn usable ADS.

(BrazenXXGold) #17

Weird gun this one (for me).
Love ir on Bushwacker but hate it on Sawbonez and anyother merc.
I guess maybe because i play more defensive with Bush

(Amerika) #18

Go learn to fire the K121 properly and then come back and fire the Blish. You’ll be a beast with it.

(Dawnlazy) #19

K-121 fires quite a bit faster, though. It’s also less headshot dependent in my opinion.

(Amerika) #20

K-121 fires quite a bit faster, though. It’s also less headshot dependent in my opinion.[/quote]

The K121 fires barely faster than the Blishlock. They are in the same ballpark in regard to rate of fire… The Blishlock does more damage per bullet by 1 so they aren’t the same but still in the same ballpark there as well. However, the K121 kicks a bit more and requires more control. Which is why I said go learn it first and then come back to the Blishlock and it will be smooth sailing as they fire similarly but the Blish has a fewer issues with wandering.

I’m pretty good with the K121 and when I went to go learn the Blishlock not long ago (I never really gave it a chance) I was surprised by how similar they fired and how much my skill with the K121 transferred.