All I can say is that if you’re having trouble playing this game, headshots not seeming to land, tracking seeming hard to do, twitch is so off it’s not even funny. Give 400 dpi a go, seriously, and let me know how it goes.
http://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/
Put in your current settings for Dirty Bomb, fov, res, dpi, sens, everything, then select Dirty Bomb again, and put 400 dpi in the second box, like so.
Placebo. If anything, 800 dpi should make you more precise with high sensitivity such as yours in comparison to 400 dpi. However most people still won’t notice a difference between 400 dpi and a higher ingame sensitivity versus 800 dpi and a lower ingame sensitivity unless they are really precise with their hand.
If you’re keeping the same cm/360 (ie, overall sensitivity) then changing dpi really doesn’t do anything in theory. The only thing you could benefit from is consistency. Staying at 6/11 windows sens and running your mouse sensor at a better dpi all help without changing overall sensitivity.
I used to use 8 minute abs. Then 7 minute abs came out and it blew me away by how much more efficient it was. B)
For low sensitivity, specific DPI/Sensitivity doesn’t matter. Doing 180’s perfectly going both directions is how us old geezer’s set our sensitivity. If you aren’t doing a perfect 180 then you adjust and don’t worry about the numbers.
I can set my mouse/game up with completely different dpi/sensitivity settings and still get pretty much the same feel. Some people stress out too much over the numbers as opposed to how things work in game.
Full disclosure, I use 400dpi with 6 sensitivity in-game.
So I play at 800 DPI and 10 sensitivity. Essentially, 400 DPI and 20 sensitivity is the same thing? Minus the fact that the sensor may be a little more accurate due to the lower DPI, correct?
I think this reasoning holds true for certain gaming mice due to their native DPI, but I’ve read that as long as you’re below 1000 DPI, they are just as accurate as at 400 DPI. I believe this holds true for my g502, unless somebody corrects me on this.
I play at 400 DPI with a sens ranging from 7-8 depending on how I want it. I still have trouble landing consistent headshots.
[quote=“Harlot;54701”]So I play at 800 DPI and 10 sensitivity. Essentially, 400 DPI and 20 sensitivity is the same thing? Minus the fact that the sensor may be a little more accurate due to the lower DPI, correct?
I think this reasoning holds true for certain gaming mice due to their native DPI, but I’ve read that as long as you’re below 1000 DPI, they are just as accurate as at 400 DPI. I believe this holds true for my g502, unless somebody corrects me on this.[/quote]
Well in such “extreme” case 20 sensitivity could already be introducing angleskipping on the engine side, when your mice’s minimum detected move causes a too big change in the viewangle values in the game causing you to skip an angle. While with 800 dpi the minimum detected move would result in the engine changing the viewangles by half of that maintaining the pixel precise movement.
All in all as long as you aren’t using insane sensitivities your DPI probably won’t matter.
[quote=“Dwu;54724”][quote=“Harlot;54701”]So I play at 800 DPI and 10 sensitivity. Essentially, 400 DPI and 20 sensitivity is the same thing? Minus the fact that the sensor may be a little more accurate due to the lower DPI, correct?
I think this reasoning holds true for certain gaming mice due to their native DPI, but I’ve read that as long as you’re below 1000 DPI, they are just as accurate as at 400 DPI. I believe this holds true for my g502, unless somebody corrects me on this.[/quote]
Well in such “extreme” case 20 sensitivity could already be introducing angleskipping on the engine side, when your mice’s minimum detected move causes a too big change in the viewangle values in the game causing you to skip an angle. While with 800 dpi the minimum detected move would result in the engine changing the viewangles by half of that maintaining the pixel precise movement.
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So, in theory, my setup may be better than 400 DPI/20 sensitivity? I could always go down to 400 DPI and slowly lower my sensitivity but I see little reason when the g502 supposedly performs equal at 400 or 800 DPI.
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So, in theory, my setup may be better than 400 DPI/20 sensitivity? I could always go down to 400 DPI and slowly lower my sensitivity but I see little reason when the g502 supposedly performs equal at 400 or 800 DPI.[/quote]
Well from theoretical point of view your setup is advantageous compared to 400 DPI/20sens
and is less likely to introduce skipping in viewangles. In a nutshell; All your ingame sensitivity does is tell the engine to adjust viewangle values according to movement detected by your mice’s sensor ( dots ), when this value becomes too big you’ll find yourself skipping angles due to each dot causing a bigger change in viewangle in order to compensate & create the higher sensitivity.
Well judging from how I’ve been playing and the results I’ve been getting. Anything between 1-10 inches per 360 definitely would be better for higher dpi settings, but past that, toward the 11+ area, 400 dpi is giving me some good results.
Then again it could be other details, smarter play, better positioning, etc, but I’ve noticed a lot more dings in the last couple of days since I’ve switched.
To many crossreferences to other pages, can’t use this applet.
But… no real working raw-input and no anti-mouseacceleration plus a bug with the rounding of the sensitivity, while calculation, leading to high sens/low-dpi beeing the better solution than high dpi/low-sense (typical ue3-probelm). So atm? Yes.
Lets clear up some common misconceptions about DPI/CPI. The more DPI you have the more movement the sensor picks up when you move it. So in theory high DPI is better. In reality though many sensors crap out at a certain DPI and start skipping readings resulting shitty mouse movement on screen. Generally I’d say it’s safe to go to 2,000 DPI on a mouse, many can go a bit above that, but I believe 2,000 is pretty safe.
I don’t believe there’s any reason to purposefully go lower than whatever the sensor can handle except for compatibility with desktop mouse use and in case the game won’t allow you to go low enough otherwise. If the game can handle it properly 400 DPI at 30 sensitivity is no better than 1200 DPI at 10 sensitivity. Technically, higher DPI is slightly more accurate and if you could choose between the two I’d go for the higher DPI.
Now if you use a super low in-game sensitivity as well as low DPI you’ll probably not have many issues. The real problems arise when you use high in-game sensitivities with low DPI. In order to up the mouse speed the game has to scale the input of the mouse up with little data which can result in pixel skipping. On the flip side the disadvantage is really not very important these days, if you use high DPI with a super low sensitivity much of the scanned data is ‘thrown out’ because it’s unneeded, resulting in a bit more CPU being used I suppose. But this has such a minor impact on today’s computers I wouldn’t worry.
Personally I’m using 2,000 DPI downscaled by 0.5 post input because 2,000 is too high for me. This is because I actually do need the more accurate readings so my accel driver works its best. Apparently on low DPI it can throw off the accel curve a bit. So I’m using the speed of 1,000 DPI but with the input quality of 2,000.
EDIT: For the guy I actually quoted, I’m using the G502.
Here is a list of mice with flawless sensors and some notes about them by the way. Not super related to the topic but this information needs sharing! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZzbKDmFOqsP_ut2RdctD01OEbZzbXol6HLwqVkSmZcg/edit#gid=0
If your mouse isn’t listed odds are it’s using a non-flawless sensor by the way. This list has been compiled from a hell of a lot of testing from several competitive video game communities and yeah…it’s this small. Basically almost all mice out there are trash.
EDIT: To summarise. If you use a highish sensitivity regardless of DPI - ergo, you’re putting the in-game sens up - use a higher DPI. If you’re using a low sensitivity regardless, then it really doesn’t matter what you’re using as long as you don’t go past what the sensor can handle. Which is often far lower than what they say it can…
So how does this work? Always been using my logitech g600 and just adjusted my ingame sensitivity. No clue what my dpi is at or how to change it, not like I’m doing bad now but wondering if I’d note any changes.
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Could use the ROG Gladius on that list, it’s an excellent mouse, has the same Avago ADNS-S3988 sensor the Deathadder has, but it has other nice benefits as well, like 2000hz polling.
Instead of just ignorantly going for 400 you should look up your mouse’s native cpi.
For example the Logitech G400S that I’m using has a native cpi of 800 so the sensor performs the best at that value.
The exact number ‘400’ is just a callback to years back when mice didn’t have configurable DPI and many just used 400 or 450. So pros that used those mice then use the same settings now. People see pros doing that now and assume it’s because 400/450 is ‘better’.
I don’t even have a single clue of what my DPI is. Heh.
IMO the best sensitivity is the one ou are used to. I just go in the game’s parameters and set the sensitivity to a comfy enough state, then my skill just makes the rest of the work. I seriously doubt that having “that badass mouse config” will suddenly turn you into an headshot machine.
Maybe I should try though, but I have no freaking idea about how my DPI is and how that website works.