Discuss Overwatch

(HunterAssassin5) #1

No, I’m not promoting Overwatch, saying “RIP DB, Overwatch best” or any of that stuff, quite the opposite, nor is comparing the two games my focus here, though it may be needed to explain some stuff since this is DB forums here. With that out of the way…

Let’s all admit it, we all played the Overwatch open beta, probably had a favorite hero we’d always choose no matter which map, mode or side we ended up on, and probably had some friends over teamspeak or curse or whatever play for some time. You probably even hit some bugs sometime in all that.

Well, I played it pretty much the entire time i was on my computer during the open beta, and towards it’s extended end, I decided what I thought about it, and frankly, I didn’t like it. It wasn’t a case of “I liked this game better than Overwatch”, not really. Towards the end of the beta, it just felt like games were always a roll for one side or the other. wins felt cheap, losses felt like i was smashing my head against a wall trying to break it, for me at least, and after playing several frantic games with friends over voice chat…playing solo was just boring.

First, Overwatch’s good points, it’s the first game i actually killed anyone with a sniper in a while since i last played TF2, and didnt get immediately killed afterwards like in Insurgency. The Play Of The Game is pretty neat, though it’s focus is more on kills than on support like healing teammates or defense rolls like blocking a ton of damage, which arguably is less interesting than killing 5 dudes at once with an ultimate, as is usually the case, but equally or more important.

The downs, there is no server browser(though for the most part it isn’t an issue), and only has 3 modes, which might get boring after a while. The games are always 6v6, which isnt really a plus or a minus, but having modes with more or less players might be nice. PvE is complete shit, in normal, the bots are completely incompetent, and on hard, they are f*cken wallhackers and aimbotters. didnt even try easy. Then there’s the completely unnecessary apparent need for a balanced team. a defense team with lots of offense heroes kicking offense team a5s, turret spam, bastion spam, general hero spam, very effective, very annoying. also, you can only earn money through RNG crates, which you can only get by leveling up. and the lead quality items, which are voice lines and sprays, are like 95% drop chance.

Overall, though, I’f i had to properly write up one paragraph explaining why I decided I didn’t like overwatch…I couldn’t, i just stopped having fun at some point. It was a blast with friends, but without, it was just a drag, unlike in - it was coming - Dirty Bomb, when i could jump into a match myself, and often come off on an adrenaline high, or at least feeling, win or loss, it couldnt be helped. the enemy team was just better, it didnt have 3 f*cken Tracers on defense shooting at my team trying to push out of spawn.

and check it out, level imbalance is not a problem exclusive to Dirty Bomb

and there was this one time i got 9 votes, plus my own 10th vote that nudged me to be legendary in one game

(there was another time i got legendary, but it was a PvE game, so it doesnt really count, does it?

(terminal) #2
  1. no server browser is a good thing, you get instantly matched into a game unlike in Dirty bomb where the quick join is broken.
  2. Overwatch is TF2 inspired, and the more competitive side of TF2 is 6s.
  3. Trying to critique offline bots, you’re funny.
  4. The hero selection suggestions are based off real competitive game stats.
  5. Dirty Bomb has a worse system of crates. At least in Overwatch there are varieties instead of just loadout cards.
  6. There’s also only 3 modes in Dirty bomb (actually, two. Since stopwatch is just two rounds of objective), and there are way less varieties of weapons / skills in Dirty bomb. Are you bored of Dirty bomb?
  7. I’ve seen a decent amount of Mercy and Lucio plays during my time in Overwatch. Are you sure you’re not just playing in low level games?
(LifeupOmega) #3

I played with Lightning and Frey for a few hours, as well as some others in that circle. To put it bluntly I found it so fucking slow and unrewarding to play. There were so many times where it just felt just a chore to keep playing. The only merc I really connected with was Soldier 76, with some Lucio on the side due to his speed amps, because he actually felt as close to DB as you could get in that game, and then his ult was a waste because if you can aim, why do you need an aimbot?

Honestly, nothing about that game struck me as amazing design, it all felt really average which is pretty much expected of Blizzard nowadays. And as usual, they seem to want to appeal to the widest player base possible.

Smooth as fuck engine though, could play maxed with no issues.

(HunterAssassin5) #4
  1. like i said, it really isnt a plus or a minus, but personally i like to browse the servers myself.
  2. i dont even know what prompted this but okay.
  3. there’s always room for improvement, if you just point at a part of a game and go “welp, dont expect anything of quality from that”, there is a problem.
  4. doesnt change the results of hero stacking in pub games, though.
  5. i’d rather get cards i can trade up for better cards than get a voice line, but that’s just me.
  6. following that argument, there are also only 2 modes in Overwatch, cap the point and push the cart. Also no.
  7. I’m pretty sure I said the Play’s focus was more on kills, not completely on kills, Ive seen Lucio and Zenyatta plays, hell, I once got the Play as a Lucio and twice as a Symmetra. Also with 3 days, I only got to about lvl 20+, so yeah, suffice to say i ended up in low lvl games most of the time.
(terminal) #5

[quote=“LifeupOmega;177200”]I played with Lightning and Frey for a few hours, as well as some others in that circle. To put it bluntly I found it so @$!# slow and unrewarding to play. There were so many times where it just felt just a chore to keep playing. The only merc I really connected with was Soldier 76, with some Lucio on the side due to his speed amps, because he actually felt as close to DB as you could get in that game, and then his ult was a waste because if you can aim, why do you need an aimbot?

Honestly, nothing about that game struck me as amazing design, it all felt really average which is pretty much expected of Blizzard nowadays. And as usual, they seem to want to appeal to the widest player base possible.

Smooth as @$!# engine though, could play maxed with no issues.[/quote]
so it’s basically
“I can only play a hero that doesn’t require me to use my skills to achieve kills. Even then, I still need a speed / heal buff alongside me”
Proves what kind of gaming background you came from.
Also, his ult is for if you flank someone, you can aim down every single one of them from behind with quick reload. Yes, his ult also gives quick reload if you actually achieved an ult once.

[quote=“TheRyderShotgun;177203”]1. like i said, it really isnt a plus or a minus, but personally i like to browse the servers myself.
2. i dont even know what prompted this but okay.
3. there’s always room for improvement, if you just point at a part of a game and go “welp, dont expect anything of quality from that”, there is a problem.
4. doesnt change the results of hero stacking in pub games, though.
5. i’d rather get cards i can trade up for better cards than get a voice line, but that’s just me.
6. following that argument, there are also only 2 modes in Overwatch, cap the point and push the cart. Also no.
7. I’m pretty sure I said the Play’s focus was more on kills, not completely on kills, Ive seen Lucio and Zenyatta plays, hell, I once got the Play as a Lucio and twice as a Symmetra. Also with 3 days, I only got to about lvl 20+, so yeah, suffice to say i ended up in low lvl games most of the time.[/quote]

  1. you shouldn’t start off your “downs” with it then.
  2. “The games are always 6v6”
  3. They’re bots, friend. You can’t recreate a human mind.
  4. At first I miss read your thread and thought that you said hero stacks were good. But now I went back and reread it, I can safely say you’re probably a low level player if you’re getting hero stacks constantly.
  5. I’d rather get things I can use on my hero immediately than having to pay for the characters first. I’d rather get more of a variety than augments and weapons. But that’s just me.
  6. Cap the point and then push the cart (Numbani), push the cart (Route 66), King of the Hill (Nepal).
(HunterAssassin5) #6

yeah, another plus is the engine. ran very well on my machine, which ran DB at like 30 fps at lowest settings, without using configs

  1. They’re bots, friend. You can’t recreate a human mind.

clearly you do not watch Tech Tuesday, yes you can. but its actually unrelated. i was complaining about how bot difficulity was giving them wallhacks and aimbots, not whether or not that acted like human players. in other words, the difficulity climb was achieved cheaply, like giving enemies more health, more damage etc.

Cap the point and then push the cart (Numbani), push the cart (Route 66), King of the Hill (Nepal).

if Stopwatch is “just two rounds of Objective” then by damn cap point and push cart is “just two modes stitched together(with less checkpoints on push the cart)”

(terminal) #7

[quote=“TheRyderShotgun;177208”]yeah, another plus is the engine. ran very well on my machine, which ran DB at like 30 fps at lowest settings, without using configs

  1. They’re bots, friend. You can’t recreate a human mind.

clearly you do not watch Tech Tuesday, yes you can. but its actually unrelated. i was complaining about how bot difficulity was giving them wallhacks and aimbots, not whether or not that acted like human players. in other words, the difficulity climb was achieved cheaply, like giving enemies more health, more damage etc.

Cap the point and then push the cart (Numbani), push the cart (Route 66), King of the Hill (Nepal).

if Stopwatch is “just two rounds of Objective” then by damn cap point and push cart is “just two modes stitched together(with less checkpoints on push the cart)”

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lmao guy’s getting AI confused with ingame bots
No it’s not, Stopwatch is just two rounds of objective. Numbani wouldn’t even start the cart pushing phase if you don’t even cap.
can’t counter any of my other arguments? that’s fine lmao.

(Rjsto) #8

Whaaat how did you get to legendary with the medal card?? Those cards get totally ignored, even when I got 5 gold medals, so every single one with soldier76!

(HunterAssassin5) #9

voting for myself first of all XD

never been in a match where no one voted for anyone(well, except when everyone from one team left the server, or otherwise a bunch of guys left at once), maybe asian servers? i did play in the american servers on the last day, though

(BrazenXXGold) #10

Since The first time I player Overwatch I fell in Love!
I’ve been jumping from game To game for a while now and never found a game i would play everyday. ;-; im so emtional right now!

(Dysfnal) #11

I didn’t touch OW, I was busy with a futile struggle against proxy

(blonk) #12

didn’t

There’s a lot of SFM porn of that chubby girl kicking around, I guess I could choose that. There was also this one video, bloody hell you thought the butt pose was bad

I removed all my friends when they started talking about OW, that or I just didn’t have any

Well I didn’t hit it, I’m not sure what happened. Late at night I went into the bathroom and I saw this spider running up the wall. It didn’t bother me too much so I left it be, but when I went back in the morning all that was left were some legs stuck to the wall.

Now I’m not saying I ate the spider, but…

I kinda wish I had tried it though I was way too busy that weekend, but I think that’s okay because it would have undermined my ability to baselessly criticise it, so that’s good.

[spoiler]put all these traitorous OW playing scumbags against the wall and shoot them[/spoiler]

(SereneFlight) #13

Let’s all admit it, we all played the Overwatch open beta, probably had a favorite hero we’d always choose no matter which map, mode or side we ended up on, and probably had some friends over teamspeak or curse or whatever play for some time. You probably even hit some bugs sometime in all that.

I’m solo scrub so nope, I don’t recall running into any bugs and I tried out almost all characters but mainly played 4 characters (Mercy, Junk, Soldier and Reaper)

The downs, there is no server browser(though for the most part it isn’t an issue)

Indeed. Unlike quick join in DB, matchingmaking didn’t twiddle it’s thumbs for a minute before telling that it was unable to find you a server. The longest time I ever had to wait was ~20 seconds but most of the time it took 5-10 seconds.

Oh well, inb4 lock/delete because Nexon is Nexon.

(HunterAssassin5) #14

nah, i dont think this thread will be closed down, im not advertising the game, merely discussing it, which is different enough i think.

(SereneFlight) #15

Oh… we just had a discussion about MTs in Killing Floor 2 and Payday 2, loooong long posts, and the whole thread got deleted just because we dared to discuss MTs in other games.

(HunterAssassin5) #16

MTs?

(SereneFlight) #17

Microtransactions.

(HunterAssassin5) #18

gasp

how dare you!

and now im slightly worried this thread might actually get closed

(Matuno) #19

I quite enjoyed the OverWatch beta, even preordered the game afterwards.
The first few days, I really didn’t like it. It’s a bit of a noob-friendly shooter, and I swear there’s aim assists and unusually large cirtboxes on everything.

I’m pretty good in Dirty Bomb, and I know how to land my headshots at any range. Few heroes in OverWatch allow me to do that, and even still, Mei always manages to freeze me and make me rage~.

After a few days, it got better. I stuck to a few heroes to properly learn them, and I’m loving D.Va despite it not being an outright damage dealer. I genuinely can’t wait until the game launches, it looks like good fun!

(HunterAssassin5) #20

im pretty sure pretty much every weapon has headshot multipliers, except explosive weapons, ultimates and some other stuff.