DEV STREAM ROUND-UP: 15TH FEBRUARY 2016 [Smooth Special]

(bontsa) #101

That is somewhat correct, however these people should be placed as lower-end Bronze instead of Silvers, even Golds they’re now. Resetting ranks for the season and now that ELO should be functioning, so that “default” first rank isn’t always least a Silver and dropping to Bronze doesn’t take mind-whopping 800 consecutive losses or something ridicule, these bot-like clueless players will be put and stay in such ranks, and thus play with their kind. All being equally terrible on their own, instead of getting matched with Golds and even higher who might already know which end of the gun goes pewpew.

[quote=“Dawnrazor;150672”]
You can very well beat premades, the other day I actually watched 5 of my friends lose to a 3 man premade and 2 solos (one of my friends was streaming).[/quote]

Why yes, it is possible by all means but please, it’s often unlikely and result mostly in 1 sided stomp instead. Which is the reason people have been requesting separation of solo+duoque from premade que for ages. Besides 3-premade can already cover up crucial spots in the class composition and function as quite efficent squad with crossfiring and all that, if enough skilled can surely take down a 5 man less experienced group on almost their own.

I could argue very little people enjoy getting their face smashed with a iron mounted boot shot from a rocket launcher and even fewer are those who say they actually learned something from it afterwards, other than 5/5 spawncamp positions. Sure, it is good feature not to give up easily, but good morale alone takes one only so far, some balance has to be attempted and chance being present.

[quote=“Dawnrazor;150672”]
And don’t pretend that MM is always 5-stacks of cobalts versus randoms, there are plenty of games where it’s cobalt stack vs cobalt stack or solos vs solos.[/quote]

I only play with high gold-low cobalt players in our group, but we seemed to get somewhat solid 40/60 split between getting stomped by cobalt premades or stomping some poor randoms ourselves. I recall only 2-3 matches out of my ~90 ranked games being really tense with chances of winning on both sides. These “statistics” from either of our sides are biased though and go by the gut feel pretty much, both yours and mine, so only some official stats could prove it to one way or another I guess.

(Dawnlazy) #102

This is the only thing that should change. Make the default rank Silver instead, Gold is too close to Cobalt.

(pinkOrchid) #103

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;150091”]You guys don’t seem to grasp the situation at hand, 5 man premades are precisely the reason matchmaking ques take so long, because by design the matchmaking will try to throw you with people of a higher rank the more people you have in your party. This causes the long match que times.

The second issue is the unfair matchups, you have a team of 5 who are very well coordinated vs a team of random players who likely aren’t. I think an in game scrim finder would be an ideal solution to that problem, Ranked shouldn’t the end all be all comp mode for all scenarios, it should be the middle ground between a pub and a tournament imo.

Right now though it’s not fitting that role. The player pool is just too small.[/quote]

But then they can’t sit up each others %#! on teamspeak while they pawn the less fortunate. Can’t you see the game is dying, they will all uninstall.

cough

(Creeper_hunter) #104

my nader died in the last update, and the game will die in the next update. sorry! but it’s true… R.I.P dirty bomb (waiting to uninstall) :s

(bontsa) #105

Why indeed?

v55

(Mrarauzz) #106

Lol you guys go hard in the paint when you argue

(dnbradio) #107

Can we get stats restart as well? I mean you should have the overall statistic but as well the statistics from current season… that would be nice. And do not forget headshotsssss!

(N8o) #108

Sorry you can’t spam nades and hope for a kill anymore.

Kappa

(Talonser) #109

I’m on a school break, so I’ll be eagerly waiting for this update!

(beautifulMarriage) #110

[quote=“Faraleth;24194”][i]
[*] There are no plans to remove the jump spread for jump-sniping. The reason for this is because jump sniping is frustrating to play against because you almost never see it coming and counter play is very important in competitive FPS

  • Faraleth[/quote]
    The amount of cancer this just gave me… My Cancer’s Aids are now growing Cancer.

Know what happens when I try to use Vasiline now? I stop using Vasiline. Because spraying a m16 is twice as accurate, and kills twice as fast, with Mercs that have a quarter more health, and can give themselves ammo.
Not to mention, Vasiline has maybe three locations to have a strategic position in an entire map, of which, can easily be replaced with a Merc with an Assault rifle which can counter an entire team that rushes him.

The only think jump-shooting with Vasiline gave an advantage with, was not instantly dying by non-shitties that prefire instant kill headshot all day long, like SKILLED, COMPETITIVE FPS players know, and expect to do.

(beautifulMarriage) #111

So that entire decision looks like it was thrown out of shitty, filthy fucking casuals opinions.

(Merci1ess) #112

[quote=“beautifulMarriage;151939”][quote=“Faraleth;24194”][i]
[*] There are no plans to remove the jump spread for jump-sniping. The reason for this is because jump sniping is frustrating to play against because you almost never see it coming and counter play is very important in competitive FPS

  • Faraleth[/quote]
    The amount of cancer this just gave me… My Cancer’s Aids are now growing Cancer.

Know what happens when I try to use Vasiline now? I stop using Vasiline. Because spraying a m16 is twice as accurate, and kills twice as fast, with Mercs that have a quarter more health, and can give themselves ammo.
Not to mention, Vasiline has maybe three locations to have a strategic position in an entire map, of which, can easily be replaced with a Merc with an Assault rifle which can counter an entire team that rushes him.

The only think jump-shooting with Vasiline gave an advantage with, was not instantly dying by non-shitties that prefire instant kill headshot all day long, like SKILLED, COMPETITIVE FPS players know, and expect to do.

[/quote]

Well you know… Apparently, that decision was made due to one man’s personal vendetta against Vassili mains. Smooth didn’t like it when he was getting jump sniped. It was financially draining which is why he had no choice to remove it. Can you imagine all those boxes of tissue he had to go through everyday? Shit becomes expensive at some point.

(Verticules) #113

I’m so ready for ranked changes. I’m trying to get cobalt before the reset, mid gold 1 atm. Had a teammate go 2-42 the first half of a game tonight while another had d/c issues. Still able to finish the 1st 2 obj on chapel in 7 or so min. Defending was a different story.

Edit: and there is something wrong, when I am pushing cobalt and can still use enemy naders as grenades.

(RickyNeuman) #114

“5-man, 4-man and 3-man pre-mades in ranked play will no longer be able to queue. You will only be able to queue solo or as a duo.”

That’s are really horrible idea. Team games are probably the the best thing at DB. You don’t want to play with randoms all the time, you want to play with your clan mates and friends. Better fix the matchmaking instead of removing the teamplay. If I want to play with randoms I do it on pub games, if I want to play with teamwork, tactics and strategy I do it on a competive match. Those are things you improve with playing over and over again with the same people not by playing with new randoms in every match.

You won’t fix the matchmaking by removing teamplay and sucking out the fun of DB. Keep the 5-man pre-mades.