DEV STREAM ROUND-UP: 11TH APRIL 2016 [Exedore - Lead Game Design]


(Jesus) #101

[quote=“jollyRacer;169132”]“But You know what Im done writting walls of text here. Lets just wait, if they do implement ill be more than happy to send you a message week after just to tell you “I told you”.”

I’m done with writing against someone like you who likes to attack a strawman in every response.

Yeah, send me a sweet message when this gets implemented and you decide to delete the game, I look forward to your absence.[/quote]

I look forward to it too if they follow the same flawed logic you’re obsessed with.


(Cuck) #102

reducing AOE to make it less spammable?

really?

because throwing some to the ground ad let people walk on it is still spammable by all means.


(Cuck) #103

[quote=“Jesus;168599”]Its still too much, imo penalty in pub = Dirty Bomb in the trash. That’s it no negociation possible period.

You can keep writing walls of text there is still no reason to implement this. You want leaving punishement and perfectly balanced team for that you go in Ranked its made precisely for that. If they do that they will have 2 identical mode except that one will force you to play stopwatch and make you win 2x more credit. You didnt gave a single valid reason to destroy pub with that crap. And no the rest of the team fighting with one less member isnt a good reason. Its pub, if i go there I expect leavers.
You act like a one man difference makes all the difference and base your reasonning on that while in pub its totally not true at all. There is plenty of time where even 3vs5 Ive beaten the crap out of the guy in front. [/quote]

hurr quitting while playing in a team is a perfectly valid option when you meet shitters hurr

so youre saying that, you expect playing with a good team and youre still able to bail when youre losing?

i think you are the shitters.


(Jesus) #104

[quote=“buffMonorail;169300”][quote=“Jesus;168599”]Its still too much, imo penalty in pub = Dirty Bomb in the trash. That’s it no negociation possible period.

You can keep writing walls of text there is still no reason to implement this. You want leaving punishement and perfectly balanced team for that you go in Ranked its made precisely for that. If they do that they will have 2 identical mode except that one will force you to play stopwatch and make you win 2x more credit. You didnt gave a single valid reason to destroy pub with that crap. And no the rest of the team fighting with one less member isnt a good reason. Its pub, if i go there I expect leavers.
You act like a one man difference makes all the difference and base your reasonning on that while in pub its totally not true at all. There is plenty of time where even 3vs5 Ive beaten the crap out of the guy in front. [/quote]

hurr quitting while playing in a team is a perfectly valid option when you meet shitters hurr

so youre saying that, you expect playing with a good team and youre still able to bail when youre losing?

i think you are the shitters.[/quote]

@buffmonorail I wont even bother to flag you like the other did but I think you need an eyecheck or reading classes. Where in that quote of mine that you posted, did I write that I was expecting good player in Pubs ?
Because as far as i know I’ve written this–> Its pub, if i go there I expect leavers.
I never said I expected people to be good player in Pub.
Just learn to read before embarassing yourself.
No one would be sane to expect good players in pub thats why everyone needs to be able to leave if they think they should. If you get too salty for whatever reason you should be able to leave without being penalized before you start being toxic to everyone. It happens to everyone to get salty or mad. And I prefer the salty player to leave rather than start a chat argument that will steal the focus of the other player of the game and will disrupt and handicap us way more than one less man for a part of the match.

You can see very well the kind of behaviour that there is in MOBA when people want to leave but cant they just stop playing and stand in the back of the map and loses everyone’s times but in MOBA its a necessity cause nobody can join to replace the guy.
While in DB there if you just let him leave another more useful player could join after.
That will happen in DB too if you force people who want to stop playing to play dont fool yourself, this is the kind of shit that you will get every fucking time with your wonderful system Ive played three different MOBA with this system all of them are f2p too I must have around 1500 hours of game with the three combined and it happens everyfucking time,
DB’s community isnt a bunch of mature saint it will be no different.
Before advocating a system like that maybe just maybe you should go out there and try it in depth, yes sometimes the matchmaking will match you with good people good teamwork but sometimes it will match you with people like that who thought they had the time to play a game but dont or with whom there will be no teamwork and no cooperation and no sync and when someone will want to leave but cant theyll just say okay im gonna stand in the back of the map for the rest of the game. And this will happen far more often than the first option.

Again you’re all acting like if leaver were a super huge problem to deal with in pub while its totally not.


(Cuck) #105

[[quote=“Jesus;169338”][quote=“buffMonorail;169300”][quote=“Jesus;168599”]Its still too much, imo penalty in pub = Dirty Bomb in the trash. That’s it no negociation possible period.

You can keep writing walls of text there is still no reason to implement this. You want leaving punishement and perfectly balanced team for that you go in Ranked its made precisely for that. If they do that they will have 2 identical mode except that one will force you to play stopwatch and make you win 2x more credit. You didnt gave a single valid reason to destroy pub with that crap. And no the rest of the team fighting with one less member isnt a good reason. Its pub, if i go there I expect leavers.
You act like a one man difference makes all the difference and base your reasonning on that while in pub its totally not true at all. There is plenty of time where even 3vs5 Ive beaten the crap out of the guy in front. [/quote]

hurr quitting while playing in a team is a perfectly valid option when you meet shitters hurr

so youre saying that, you expect playing with a good team and youre still able to bail when youre losing?

i think you are the shitters.[/quote]

@buffmonorail I wont even bother to flag you like the other did but I think you need an eyecheck or reading classes. Where in that quote of mine that you posted, did I write that I was expecting good player in Pubs ?
Because as far as i know I’ve written this–> Its pub, if i go there I expect leavers.
I never said I expected people to be good player in Pub.
Just learn to read before embarassing yourself.
No one would be sane to expect good players in pub thats why everyone needs to be able to leave if they think they should. If you get too salty for whatever reason you should be able to leave without being penalized before you start being toxic to everyone. It happens to everyone to get salty or mad. And I prefer the salty player to leave rather than start a chat argument that will steal the focus of the other player of the game and will disrupt and handicap us way more than one less man for a part of the match.

You can see very well the kind of behaviour that there is in MOBA when people want to leave but cant they just stop playing and stand in the back of the map and loses everyone’s times but in MOBA its a necessity cause nobody can join to replace the guy.
While in DB there if you just let him leave another more useful player could join after.
That will happen in DB too if you force people who want to stop playing to play dont fool yourself, this is the kind of @$!# that you will get every @$!# time with your wonderful system Ive played three different MOBA with this system all of them are f2p too I must have around 1500 hours of game with the three combined and it happens everyfucking time,
DB’s community isnt a bunch of mature saint it will be no different.
Before advocating a system like that maybe just maybe you should go out there and try it in depth, yes sometimes the matchmaking will match you with good people good teamwork but sometimes it will match you with people like that who thought they had the time to play a game but dont or with whom there will be no teamwork and no cooperation and no sync and when someone will want to leave but cant theyll just say okay im gonna stand in the back of the map for the rest of the game. And this will happen far more often than the first option.

Again you’re all acting like if leaver were a super huge problem to deal with in pub while its totally not.

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soo…you still want to bail when youre losing?

first, let me give you a case.

A lv1
B lv12
C lv25
D lv4
E lv 3
F lv 13

against

G lv10
H lv11
I lv24
J lv2
K lv1
L lv5

what will happen if i take C,F and E hmm…?

A lv1
B lv12
D lv4

see that 3v6 right?

thats you.

will the other team try to shuffle the players?

you said it yourself, DB’s community isnt a bunch of mature saint.

hurr While in DB there if you just let him leave another more useful player could join after

what if it doesnt?
because most of the time for me nobody would join a 6v3 match

hurr thats situational and i rarely didnt get balanced team

if you rarely get unbalanced match because of quitters doesnt mean others dont.

would you like to play 10 match with that kind of team every time?
because every time someone got in the match, saw the team is lacking teamates, they just went
“hell naw i wont play on a losing team”

see that?

“I WONT PLAY ON A LOSING TEAM”

or, they will just gonna try to shuffle the team where it will fail.

the goal of having a penalty is to reduce this kind of behavior amongst the newer player (or even vets like you) and instead abandoning your team because apparently you (i, me,we) sucked, you actually have to endure and learn from mistakes.

hurr but i hate salty kids

hey, who doesnt hate salty kids? probably salty kids also hate salty kids

hurr i played many different moba with combined hours of 1500

hey, im a “fatneckbeard” still living and working in my mom’s house. my combined hours with multiplayers and mobas are waay over your 1500. i believe you dont like quitters anywhere in any game because who loves quitters?

would you like to be able to play in a pub that is free of quitters?
no doubt.

would you like to be able to experience a better match with balanced team that even tho they are noobs they will at least learn something?
i know i want that.

would you like Dirty Bomb to be able to expand their player base because the people are nice in pubs and wont leave your komerades?
that is my dream.

i remember the early days im playing “Doto 2” im whining like a kid and i leave losing matches and get penalty. In time, i tried not to leave matches because people eventually hate me and labeled me as a quitters. every time i want to play with my friends i say “sorry guys, im in a low priority” because i do quits. eventually i stop quitting and got good.

that is what the penalty aiming for. to improve you and other people experience in playing the game.


(UncleTwinkleToes) #106

@Jesus
Ways to fix phantom:
Make him completely invisible
Make the warning sound a tiny bit more quiet
Take a little of his health off
Take away the armor

Then adjust the stealth timer and cool down until he seems balanced around those mechanics


(Brain_of_Britain) #107

[quote=“Faraleth;28079”][i]Remember, as always, unless specifically stated as confirmed, please take everything with a grain of salt. (just put this here to show I’ve taken it into account)
A Second Edition of loadout cards is most definitely coming in the future. Although there is no ETA on this.
The second edition cards are aiming to be released at the same time as the culprit cards are put into the game.
So they are aiming to bring them out with the culprit cards but they won’t confirm a specific date?


(Randomdeath) #108

[quote=“MarsRover;167951”]Yay for casual MM!

Exedore - Lead Game Designer

Next time, can we get a Cobalt, or at least a Silver game designer?[/quote]

I know, right? I was a little dissapointed ;(


(Randomdeath) #109

I think this new matchmaking que thing should be implemented, but i also think the whole quick join thing shouldent be remove. or at LEAST the server browser. If community servers are ever going to be a thing this should stay, right?