Desert Eagle on proxy

(SirMurder) #1

What does the community here think of a DE.50 On proxy?
In my eyes its a great weapon for proxy but what do yo guys prefer?
DE.50 MP400 or Tolen MP?

(omegaskorpion) #2

The DE on proxy is just plain useless, same goes for the Simeon on Fletcher and S&W on Vassilli, it makes no sense to give weaker secondary on mercs that have better secondaries.

Its like giving option between pee shooter and real gun in war.
It would only make sense if those heavy pistols would DEAL HEAVY DAMAGE, but they dont.

(SirMurder) #3

I still got it on my CW card u must admit the camo looks cool :wink:

(SirMurder) #4

[quote=“omegaskorpion;117943”]The DE on proxy is just plain useless, same goes for the Simeon on Fletcher and S&W on Vassilli, it makes no sense to give weaker secondary on mercs that have better secondaries.

Its like giving option between pee shooter and real gun in war.
It would only make sense if those heavy pistols would DEAL HEAVY DAMAGE, but they dont.[/quote]

i do disagree about s&w on vassili that1 got high hs dmg go watch WTFSMs Loadout review m093 vanguard sniper he reks with revolver

(omegaskorpion) #5

[quote=“SirMurder;117955”][quote=“omegaskorpion;117943”]The DE on proxy is just plain useless, same goes for the Simeon on Fletcher and S&W on Vassilli, it makes no sense to give weaker secondary on mercs that have better secondaries.

Its like giving option between pee shooter and real gun in war.
It would only make sense if those heavy pistols would DEAL HEAVY DAMAGE, but they dont.[/quote]

i do disagree about s&w on vassili that1 got high hs dmg go watch WTFSMs Loadout review m093 vanguard sniper he reks with revolver[/quote]

S&W does 27 damage on shot and simeon does 25. However it does not matter which one you use as they both have same DPS since the 2 more damage does not help at all.

MP400 does 330 damage per mag (one shot deals 11 damage), while the S&W does 162 damage per mag.

With MP400 dmaage you can take out 3 saw bones while with S&W damage you can take out one Thunder (presuming all shots land)

Also smg is more forgiving than revolver since revolver has to hit all shots while smg does not.

(SirMurder) #6

[quote=“omegaskorpion;117970”][quote=“SirMurder;117955”][quote=“omegaskorpion;117943”]The DE on proxy is just plain useless, same goes for the Simeon on Fletcher and S&W on Vassilli, it makes no sense to give weaker secondary on mercs that have better secondaries.

Its like giving option between pee shooter and real gun in war.
It would only make sense if those heavy pistols would DEAL HEAVY DAMAGE, but they dont.[/quote]

i do disagree about s&w on vassili that1 got high hs dmg go watch WTFSMs Loadout review m093 vanguard sniper he reks with revolver[/quote]

S&W does 27 damage on shot and simeon does 25. However it does not matter which one you use as they both have same DPS since the 2 more damage does not help at all.

MP400 does 330 damage per mag (one shot deals 11 damage), while the S&W does 162 damage per mag.

With MP400 dmaage you can take out 3 saw bones while with S&W damage you can take out one Thunder (precuming all shots land)

Also smg is more forgiving than revolver since revolver has to hit all shots while smg does not.
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True!

(SirMurder) #7

But indeed most proxy loadouts with deagle are just bad

(LifeupOmega) #8

Hoch/Deagle has decent augments that offset how terrible the Deagle is on her, but Hoch/MP400 is the true combo for Proxy.

(Dawnlazy) #9

Deagle is pointless on any merc, not just Proxy. Only really beats the Caulden as far as sidearms go. MP400 is the best.

(GottaBeGreg) #10

@omegaskorpion Precuming all shots land. Hahahha. Sorry, I had to…

(omegaskorpion) #11

… >:/

(Amerika) #12

If you aren’t using an mp400 you’re doing it wrong!!

But seriously…the deagle doesn’t even come close to comparing to a machine pistol. I have no clue why anybody would ever want to use that card when there is a comparable one with an mp400 and it has freaking double time on it which is insane on proxy.

(CCP115) #13

Machine pistols could probably use a nerf. They really do outshadow many other weapons, mostly secondaries.

(SaulWolfden) #14

Or instead why not buff the pistols to be on par with them as valuable secondaries?

(Grave_Knight) #15

That’s kind of the point though. Notice most the time they show up are on mercs with shotguns? It’s to give them some mid-range options and something to fall back unto cause shotguns have terrible max ammo. Also consider that Sparks’ primary are the PDWs, so if you nerf them you make her more reliant on her REVIVR which causes more people to gripe about the REVIVR being “to op, please nerf” and do we really need more of that floating around?

Anyways, they’re not that amazing. The best one, DPS wise, is the Empire-9 at 115 DPS and the best one, damage per bullet, is MP-400 at 11 damage per round. To give some perspective; the M9 is 15 damage per round at 113 DPS and the S&W is 27 damage per round at 135 DPS.

(omegaskorpion) #16

That’s kind of the point though. Notice most the time they show up are on mercs with shotguns? It’s to give them some mid-range options and something to fall back unto cause shotguns have terrible max ammo. Also consider that Sparks’ primary are the PDWs, so if you nerf them you make her more reliant on her REVIVR which causes more people to gripe about the REVIVR being “to op, please nerf” and do we really need more of that floating around?

Anyways, they’re not that amazing. The best one, DPS wise, is the Empire-9 at 115 DPS and the best one, damage per bullet, is MP-400 at 11 damage per round. To give some perspective; the M9 is 15 damage per round at 113 DPS and the S&W is 27 damage per round at 135 DPS.[/quote]

I would love pistol Buff overal… i have ideas for that but that would sound like advertisement.

unfortunately the S&W dps is also 125. Because the 2 extra damage does not help against any other merc exept Thunder. Meaning that you still have to shoot everyone els same amouth of shots as simeon.

Even the Dreissar does not have better dps. It also has 125 dps because the 1 extra damage does not lower the amouth of shots you need to take out the mercs.
And the 125 dps is on paper with semi-auto weapons, it can be even lower as people cant click as fast, not to mention the delay between clicks.

(watsyurdeal) #17

And here I am actually liking the Deagle for quick finishes, and not shit perks.

I mean, the augments on the KE 21 and KE 12 are pretty useless. Drilled, Quick Switch, and Guardian Angel are decent perks imo. I’d say that’s worth the Deagle, which I already can use fine as it is anyhow.

(Captain_Forward) #18

I don’t use it since I found that this gun have an awful sound and horrible shooting animation. That’s it.

(god1) #19

Deagle is a good pistol but the machine pistols outclass all of the alternatives.

(Amerika) #20

Being able to maybe finish one person with a mag on a deagle versus potentially killing 3 people with the mp400 when you switch to it is pretty huge. People keep citing DPS without considering ammo count/mag kill potential which is one of the most important factors in considering any gun.