demand for team deathmatch?

(wolfnemesis75) #101

[quote=jak swift;329559]to the op, you really just dont get it do you? Brink is a “objective” based game, where the objective is not to run around aimlessly spraying your smg carb-9 with a light.

You say why cant they “co-exsist”? Because thats not what the game was made for.

Some may not see the reference, it’s like playing fallout (rpg) then asking for a tdm, sure it could work, but its not what people play the game for.[/quote]

^I agree.

if you want tdm. Explain how it would work in brink. What would be the rules of the mode and what would decide who wins the match?

(Je T´aime) #102

More game modes the better, anyway majority of brink maps are really unbalanced when played on pubs, you know wich team will win before the match starts depending on the map, and they became TDM anyway.

(Jak Swift) #103

false statements apon lies.

(tokamak) #104

Just explaining why the hell you want to see it forced on Brink would be enough. What does Brink have that fits the TDM that much? It’s just smart is it? Come on, just say it, you actually just want COD with the SMART element incorporated into it. That’s all there is to this constant droning right?

(wolfnemesis75) #105

Yeah. That’s what I am saying too, some seem to have fallen in love with the SMART element and now they want to use it to kill and own fools. But SMART would not be used all that much in TDM because you’d not have a need to get close to enemies, right? It’d make more sense just choosing a Heavy, a Gatlung Turret all the Soldier Abilities and just parking in a corner and waiting for some SMART fool to parkour on up to get his face planted with a grenade, some turret fire, a satchel charge, or all those three things rinse and repeat. Who’s gonna be foolish enough to choose a light or a medium body type in TDM?

(kilL_888) #106

c’mon toka. you start to sound like an ultra fan/hate boy. even i who dont like cod that much would like to see the smart in cod. i would like to see smart in every new shooter actually.

but thats not the point. the point is that brink is a fun game. its awsome to do objectives, its awsome to support your teammates while doing objectives. it gives you the ultimate adrenaline rush and that strong feeling of a team that no other game mode will ever achieve.

but… sometimes i just want to kick back, turn my brain on standby and just run around and shoot people. i dont want to look and concentrate on the status of the objectives all the time.

sometimes all i need is to stupidly run across the map, enjoying the smart movement and have gunfights.

and plz stop comparing cod and brink in any way, or suggest that adding a tdm mode to brink will it turn into something like cod. cod and brink are totally different games. there is more diversity than just the game mode. so, stop beeing silly, plz.

(wolfnemesis75) #107

[QUOTE=kilL_888;329613]c’mon toka. you start to sound like an ultra fan/hate boy. even i who dont like cod that much would like to see the smart in cod. i would like to see smart in every new shooter actually.

but thats not the point. the point is that brink is a fun game. its awsome to do objectives, its awsome to support your teammates while doing objectives. it gives you the ultimate adrenaline rush and that strong feeling of a team that no other game mode will ever achieve.

but… sometimes i just want to kick back, turn my brain on standby and just run around and shoot people. i dont want to look and concentrate on the status of the objectives all the time.

sometimes all i need is to stupidly run across the map, enjoying the smart movement and have gunfights.

and plz stop comparing cod and brink in any way, or suggest that adding a tdm mode to brink will it turn into something like cod. cod and brink are totally different games. there is more diversity than just the game mode. so, stop beeing silly, plz.[/QUOTE]

Only a SMART fool would choose a Light or Medium body over a Heavy Body if Brink had a TDM. Plain and simple. :penguin:

Especially if K/D was visible.

^See what I did there?

(tokamak) #108

I don’t think you understood me. Brink TDM will be many times worse than COD, at least COD is made for TDM.

(dazman76) #109

Better for who though? SD made Brink for the objective-based crowd, and based on general feedback in this thread and others - most of them want to play objective mode, as you’d expect. As stated several times here and there - the modes depend on the maps that have been built, not the other way around. Therefore SD would be spending time making new TDM content, or customising existing content - instead of spending time improving the core objective mode :slight_smile: One of these approaches results in the core game getting better more quickly - the other results in fans of the core objective mode being short-changed in order to please an audience that wasn’t even in the picture when it came to design.

(Jess Alon) #110

[QUOTE=kilL_888;329480]the current playerbase plays brink for what it is. ergo, an additional mode wouldnt splinter it.

i think it would rather increase the target audience that is used to just run around and kill. brink is such a great game and i think its a waste to limit it to the objective gameplay.

of course though, keep in mind, you would also have to limit the class mechanics which is a big deal for brink itself. it doesnt cut the fun brink already offers with its gunplay and parkour movement though.[/QUOTE]

You’d have all the people who do nothing but play the same crap over and over. Playing that same mode in Brink. So you would have less people in the objective based games. Though I’d rather the people who can’t break themselves away from that mindset just not play. I’d at least like them to actually have an experience of playing the game the way it was designed to be played. I myself am open to TDM just draw more people to buy the game and continue support in the community. But that’s the wrong reason to do it honestly. That’s called compromising your core values.

(kilL_888) #111

i dont know why that would be the case.

if you design new maps and remove the classes and body types (with no movement restrictions), why would it be a bad tdm, or deathmatch game? the gunplay is fun, the movement is fun. what else does it need to be a good tdm/deathmatch game?

you have full smart control in maps designed for tdm or dm. gunplay and health system as in vanilla brink. why would that be bad, or even worse than cod?

That’s called compromising your core values.

thats a bit naive, sadly. when youre hired by a big publishing firm you should do what brings in the money and not stick to you “core values”. if you’d stick to your core values, stay in your garage and develop free indi games.

(wolfnemesis75) #112

[QUOTE=kilL_888;329627]i dont know why that would be the case.

if you design new maps and remove the classes and body types (with no movement restrictions), why would it be a bad tdm, or deathmatch game? the gunplay is fun, the movement is fun. what else does it need to be a good tdm/deathmatch game?

you have full smart control in maps designed for tdm or dm. gunplay and health system as in vanilla brink. why would that be bad, or even worse than cod?[/QUOTE]

Ok, now in order to have TDM you are essentially asking for devs to design new maps, remove the classes, and body types (basically the Heavy), and all objectives?

YOU WANT A DIFFERENT GAME COMPLETELY.

ha ah ah! OMG! :eek:

(Jess Alon) #113

[QUOTE=wolfnemesis75;329629]Ok, now in order to have TDM you are essentially asking for devs to design new maps, remove the classes, and body types (basically the Heavy), and all objectives?

YOU WANT A DIFFERENT GAME COMPLETELY.

ha ah ah! OMG! :eek:[/QUOTE]

Yeah that’s gonna happen.

(wolfnemesis75) #114

In TDM in Brink who’d be dumb enough to choose a Light Body?

So, where would all this Parkour SMART movement element come in to play exactly?

(kilL_888) #115

[QUOTE=wolfnemesis75;329629]Ok, now in order to have TDM you are essentially asking for devs to design new maps, remove the classes, and body types (basically the Heavy), and all objectives?

YOU WANT A DIFFERENT GAME COMPLETELY.

ha ah ah! OMG! :eek:[/QUOTE]

yea. i dont ask the devs for doing this stuff. the modding community will have to do the job, given the sdk will be released some time in the future. splash damage will never ever add a deathmatch mode cause it will totally break their game design.

and … there is a lot more to brink itself than just the classes and body types. you know, there are the guns, the artstyle, the movement, the health system … im not asking for a different game. im asking for a modified (additional aspect of) brink. :smiley:

(Je T´aime) #116

false statements how

  • more game modes the better is my opinion
  • some maps are really unbalanced isnt that obvious
  • about you knowing who will win the match before the map starts well if both teams are decent, the team that defends usually wins
  • about it becoming sometimes just TDM, well its the true in some maps or when your team is all new dudes that dont know the objectives or when you get respaw camp or respaw camp the other team and that happens often.

But anyway, if SDK is released eventually people who want TDM maps will map TDM maps so its just a matter of time before you have TDM, CTF and whatever people want to do.

(dazman76) #117

This is what people like EA and Actibortion have turned the industry into - and I don’t like it one bit. Presence of core values makes a good game great - a lack of core values is what produces crap like CoD 97 - Attack of the Russian-Arab-Chinese Terrorist Fan Club Yes Those Guys Again But Dressed As Women. As much as these attempts have largely worked in rotting the industry and filling it with meh, there are still developers around who can afford to stick to these core values. I respect that very highly :slight_smile:

(wolfnemesis75) #118

[QUOTE=kilL_888;329639]yea. i dont ask the devs for doing this stuff. the modding community will have to do the job, given the sdk will be released some time in the future. splash damage will never ever add a deathmatch mode cause it will totally break their game design.

and … there is a lot more to brink itself than just the classes and body types. you know, there are the guns, the artstyle, the movement, the health system … im not asking for a different game. im asking for a modified (additional aspect of) brink. :D[/QUOTE]

Devolving Brink:

adding K/D, TDM, CTF, Zombies, Rocket Launchers, Helicopters, One Shot Kills, and Kill Streaks.

Plain english.

(SockDog) #119

Always the same flawed, ignorant, personal, selfish and defensive arguments in these threads.

(tokamak) #120

Oh and don’t forget the obligatory vacuous passive aggressive non-contributions.