DB needs to get rolling before these new games come out..

(Cyanide) #1

I really like DB and I won’t play anything else, but with this Blizzard Overwatch game coming out, it could be some competition. Personally I won’t play Overwatch at all, it seems way to much and out of my zone.

I would like to see SD get rolling as fast as possible so that this game can get out of beta and more people can play it, because I would hate to see a game like this get taken out by a game like overwatch…

I know Splash Damage is doing everything they can to get things rolling and smooth I just hope it won’t be to late so that when the game is done, not many people know about it or are playing something else like Overwatch which will take their interest away from a game play Dirty Bomb.

I want DB to be at the top and excel to bring in new players, and get picked up by esports, watch lans, watch matches, be in tournys. all that stuff. I Just really hope SD makes the right moves here to gain more players.

(Milky Mac) #2

Don’t bother they won’t listen, this was SD first time to have a game come out before blizz and valve and they took their time. This game is awesome but I feel in it’s current state most players will leave and play the games that are complete, mainly OW i have had so many people on my stream say that and not one missing half its mercs that has been in CBT for almost 3 years.
Don’t get me wrong I love this game but I feel like them taking so much time with little to no content coming out will really hurt them.

Let’s be honest the ONLY reason SD removed the other mercs is because of there F2P model they have to make their money back. So they are realeasing mercs slow as fuck so people will have to pay with real cash to get their mercs. Because 200 games per merc is ridiculous so in order to go COMP you need to spend money. In early beta stages they were NOT as OP as they are claiming it was really well balanced they just want to make there money so they are making us wait spacing them out so we will spend more money.

@MissMurder @CC_FANG try and tell me this isn’t the case

(Zenity) #3

The game isn’t even released yet…

(Amerika) #4

Yeah, I’m confused. We are still in a closed beta. They are still working out the logistics for not release schedules but monetization along with adding more content/fixes to the game. Things will change based on feedback. Don’t go all doom and gloom because the rate of content release, the monetization and the playerbase isn’t perfect while still in a closed beta.

(Ribero) #5

Overwatch will probably attract a different crowd than the one Dirty Bomb is aiming for. Of course, with it aiming to be Free-To-Play game, they do need all the population they can get, and obviously lots of people will move to try Overwatch, but after a while I feel the majority of those who actually enjoy Dirty Bomb will come back.

That being said, they could probably do with changing the current Card trade-up system and Credit gain rates soon, if they intend to keep the $10 price-tag on the new mercs, so as to avoid scaring potential newbies away. (Though that’s a discussion for another thread.)

(Pogo) #6

people who want a decent shooter will like Dirty Bomb

people who want Team Fortress 2 with more gimmicks will like Overwatch

and a lot of people will probably enjoy some of both of those games. It’s not like you have to pledge yourself to one video game lol

(god1) #7

[quote=“Pogo;14458”]
people who want Team Fortress 2 with more gimmicks will like Overwatch[/quote]
I’ve heard that OW has actually very little in common with TF if you ignore all the obvious things like rocket jumping and sentries.

(chickenNwaffles) #8

Overwatch will essentially kill dirtybomb. Overwatch has too much hype surrounding it and at day one, it will have more players than DB will ever have.

SD has to make a move (open beta and release all mercs), or else the game will die.

(attentiveMonth) #9

This game is in beta only in name, beta is for when software is ‘feature complete’ :slight_smile:

(Pogo) #10

[quote=“god1;14460”][quote=“Pogo;14458”]
people who want Team Fortress 2 with more gimmicks will like Overwatch[/quote]
I’ve heard that OW has actually very little in common with TF if you ignore all the obvious things like rocket jumping and sentries.
[/quote]

you’re probably totally right, honestly. Overwatch just seems way more slow paced and the heroes are much more gimmicky. Not that is makes it a worse game in any way imo

tbh, I’d rather see Splash Damage push out a decent game for when it’s ready. Nexon has the money for publicity

(Szakalot) #11

[quote=“chickenNwaffles;14470”]Overwatch will essentially kill dirtybomb. Overwatch has too much hype surrounding it and at day one, it will have more players than DB will ever have.

SD has to make a move (open beta and release all mercs), or else the game will die.[/quote]

different crowds.

People that will like overwatch would hate DB due to the high skill required to have ANY fun.

(guru{Voshy}) #12

[quote=“Szakalot;14476”]
People that will like overwatch would hate DB due to the high skill required to have ANY fun.[/quote]

thats the way it was suppose to be, but didn’t quite finish that way did it :smiley:

(Milky Mac) #13

you guys keep saying be pateint its in cbt, its been in beta for almost 3 years now.

(yellowCabbage) #14

Half life 3 will end all shooter.

(Nail) #15

so what ?
how long do you think it takes ?

(riptide) #16

so what ?
how long do you think it takes ?[/quote]

Saying it’s beta even if it is, is quite possibly the biggest cop out there is. We even hear it from MissMurder. Do you realize how that’s perceived? If they haven’t decided on features being yay or nay at this point. Then it needs to be communicated. If it’s not communicated as such then the game WILL fail.

We are voicing our concerns now and letting them know now. People have been saying things for over 2 years. That’s ample time to decide on the what and what nots. 3 years for a beta is actually quite long, but I suppose in the era of the indie games like Rust and H1Z1. It’s perfectly acceptable.

Suppose SD is just new to this. That is why they are the only AAA game maker that has a 2 + year public beta.

Anyway, the real point of this is that betas are only useful for balance changes and optimization. There are design and monetization issues that are beyond a “it’s only beta it could change” response. All we seem to get are general PR responses as if we are customers already.

Take a page from GGG, now that’s a dev that knows how to communicate with it’s community.

(fubar) #17

I… disagree. Competition doesn’t hurt, in fact… if anything it will give SD the needed kick they need to get the ball rolling. Even so, I don’t think SD is delusional enough to think they can take on a giant such as Blizzard, and really… they don’t have to. This isn’t some huge release debate such as CoD vs BF, or LoL vs Dota or even Rust vs DayZ, this… in its entirety is more of a TF2 vs Hello Kitty.
Sure, everyone knows Hello Kitty and will ultimately buy into it one way or another, but no one ever sticks around to actually play it. You’ll buy it for your 4 year old all the while you yourself will be playing more grown up games. I’m not worried over blizzard taking away any of SD’s playerbase, the games are too different to even attract the same type of audience. If anything I’d be more worried about SD settling into panic mode and trying to push things along faster than they should.

(B_Montiel) #18

Overwatch and Dirty Bomb clearly does not have the same public target.

The thing is, most of us are here because we are looking for a legitimate W:ET/ETQW child or a faster tf2, or even a faster, more team oriented and skill demanding COD/BF. This is hugely restricting the public audience now which somehow makes dirty bomb out of its time. The biggest problem for dirty bomb is and will be that it is too specific compared to others shooters which are released nowadays. The gameplay is pretty accessible but the skill curve is yet very steep for a modern shooter. It also makes the game very unfriendly for newcomers, who will inexorably get their 4sses smashed down for their 10 first hours at least.

If SD and nexon really expect something viable with dirty bomb, they really should work on making sure that people will at least try the game (which they can’t now, since it’s in bloody CBT), make them stay at least 10 hours before going into the control panel to uninstall the game. So they really should give an accent on accessibility right now. In-games tutorials, more servers for below lvl 6 players (incitate them going on those by giving them 2x credits ?), there’s tons of possibilities. And make the monetization rational for fragger’s sake. There were tons of community discussions before the late March release on how SD/Nexon should think a viable economy system, it seems we all farted into a trumpet.

(Humbug) #19

they just need to seperate from all that moba shit…
we’re here to play a competitive shooter and not a moba.
It has to be and old-shool shooter in my opinion.

(JPB) #20

I am pretty sure Overwatch is going to be a bad competitive shooter, much worse than Dirty Bomb however it’s not going to matter if one has a ton of players while the other sits with the same old names.

I don’t really like Blizzard as a developer yet the sheer fact that they are Blizzard means they will have an audience. Look at Hearthstone, even the least competitive game out there right now has a huge competitive scene with multiple tournaments each month, if an RNG card game with no mechanical skill requirement can achieve this then I don’t see how Overwatch couldn’t, it would certainly end up being bigger than DB’s scene.

DB needs to get it’s ass in gear before Overwatch closed beta (or alpha if they are doing that) comes around. If the mercs, maps, economy issues and loadout cards aren’t sorted by then I have serious concerns.

One of the main things that DB is really lacking and if Overwatch has will simply crush this game, is a replay/demo system. From both a competitive standpoint and a movie making standpoint it’s a huge loss for the game that the feature isn’t here. I want to be able to watch a match from all of my teams viewpoints, pausing, rewinding as I please, looking at a top down view to help strategise with my team. Movie making is one of the main things current devs are neglecting in their games and it’s a real shame to see, I want to be able to play in one config but then have a movie config to render my clips in, I want to be able to use demo smooths/freecams for cinematics and I especially want to be able to render videos in lossless quality at the framerate of my choosing. Now, Blizzard have had replay modes in both SC2 and Heroes of the Storm, they aren’t exactly robust but they exist so I am hoping Overwatch will have these features, if it does then DB is way behind in terms of content creation.