Converted maps that still suck

(The Wanderer) #1

I don’t mind people converting maps from RTCW or whatever into ET. Some of these maps were good, and they are still fun. However I’m noticing all too often people converting maps that first, were not good to begin with (You made ONE map and you’ll haunt us forever with it), and second they don’t take neccessary steps to properly adapt the map for ET gameplay.

The gameplay part is more significant. ET and RTCW are not the same. Many people will try to tell you that they are, and make mods that convert ET into RTCW (yep i said it, ETPro blows). But they are not the same thing. So when you convert a map please take into account the new gameplay features, and fix things that were wrong with the original map. Don’t just do a recompile and then give us a crummy map that is unplayable. With its super spawn campable spawns, and its long strait tunnels, and its hiden, crazy hard to get to objectives. Sure some of these apply to ET only maps too but you people that are converting should seriously consider them.

And finally …don’t just make maps for the sake of making maps. You’re just taking up hard drive space.

:moo: :moo: :moo:

(badong) #2

Yeah i can see what you’re saying. I think they’re exceptions though. Probably people still trying to pimp their lousy map and they still haven’t learned what a good map is. Most conversion maps I’ve played have been pretty good. The makers spent a lot of time tweaking things so it’s well suited for ET.

P.S.
ET pro is pretty good why you got to be ragging on it.

(The Wanderer) #3

Well I’m not saying there aren’t any good conversions out there. Just that there are a lot of bad ones too. And playing a bad map for 30 min really makes you hate the map, hate the people, hate the server, hate the game, hate the world …everyone. It just seems like people’s mentality hasn’t changed much from RTCW. They want the same maps, the same gameplay, and in many many cases, the same people.

ET pro is ok, but I really don’t like the fact that the charge bar takes so long to rise. It makes all special abilities completely useless. In all ETpro servers you rarely see Field ops or soldiers. Especially on the nazi side it’s all rambo medics and coverts. I never realized that competition ET was just a deathmatch. Then again some people love that.

(Rippin Kitten) #4

This is most likely a server setting and less ETPro. Aside from some minor tweaks, I didn’t think ETPro did anything with the charge bar times.

RK

(Xerxes) #5

Nothing beats the feeling of crappy half-baked non attempted to be converted unpopular maps from RTCW to be ported for ET with almost no purpose for ET for the sake of “beating the crowd of mappers” and be considered 1st “mapper”. Take Marko for instance. Nothing beats the feeling of hatred reading him bragging after releasing the first ET Map from his own Forums and literally shit on all custom mapping for ET as soon as possible.

If people are to port Maps from RTCW, try to convert their “stock” maps with things useable for ET.

Not a flame post here, but more so a statement of facts of why “converted maps” get so little recognition.

(lennyballa) #6

Argh if you don’t like the bad ones don’t play them and don’t bother us with the problem that you don’t like some conversions

(duke'ku) #7

so wait, etpro blows?

having less bugs blows? how the fuck does etpro make et like rtcw? christ.

(p0ny*) #8

mwahaha 110% ack. remember markos first rtcw map (I think it was the first rtcw custom map)? sheer horror. and he did literally the same thing with ET.
sad :moo:

re etpro: charge times are server settings afaik, etpro introduced (or was shrub first?, dunno) some punishment for slashkillers, which is a good thing imho.

(The Wanderer) #9

it is a problem because there are very few servers out there that host the custom maps. So trying to avoid them is a little difficult. You don’t have much of a coice. I think one of the reasons many people don’t like customs, and many servers don’t host customs is because they are just not good. They’re poor maps made because people somehow feel like it is their duty to make maps. I guess what I’m trying to say is either make good maps, or don’t try to promote your piece of shit. If you can’t make a good map then don’t try. Map making is not easy, not everyone is cut out for it. And even if you are a good mapper, it is still difficult to make a map that others will like. Why do think splash released only 6 maps when they had made about 50 of them…I’m just rambling…ramble ramble.

(MadMattUK) #10

You didn’t have to read this post! :rolleyes:

(evilsock) #11

hah your joking aren’t you? I have a four map custom rotation on my server and it’s forever empty - one painless 28Mb download and no one can be bothered!

mml_chruch
password2
et_assault
xdam

Not quite conversion maps but deffo new maps for ET - my point is that everyone would rather fuck about on a dedicated Goldrush server than entertain new maps.

my 0.02’s.

(L2|B4tt3rY) #12

all the maps i got on ur rotation suck, mml church is horseshit

get some good maps in like base, north pole not the ones u have password 2 is possibly the worst map i have EVER PLayed

(The Wanderer) #13

post the server IP. What is the 28MB download for.
Suggestion: alternate between customs and officials. Playing one after the other maps that you don’t know can get a little frustrating.

:beer: COUGH COUGH ::spits out drink::

GOD DAMN
Talk about being blunt. Calm down, it’s nice enough that he’s providing us with a server, and that he’s taking a risk by putting customs. No need to be offensive. Maybe he likes those maps. I’ve come accross this phenomenon too. You think a map really sucks, and you hate it, and you can’t imagine anyone playing and yet there are people who can’t get enough of it. The only one I’ve played is xdam and I thought it needed some work. The other ones I’ve just spectated through them when I downloaded them…it’s so weird I look at my etmain and I must have some 20+ maps downloaded yet I’ve only played about 5-6 of them…well maybe not 5-6 of them but point is I haven’t played many of them.

(evilsock) #14

213.221.175.233:28961 8v8 ET Custom Campaign - I won’t shit you, it’s hosted by game.net not docked in a 19’ rack mount that one of your mates who freelances for HSBC (or whoever ) has sorted for you in Canary Wharf ok? The 28Mb download is for the maps pack and because I’m from a Wolf background and don’t really understand yet how to get the URL re-direct working properly for ET, so at the moment I’m asking you to goto my website and get it from there - I can take the bandwidth hit - and yes it really is plain html without php - that’s why it loads in under a second - php is on the site but not the main page - yet.

As for the maps - your telling me you played mml_chruch but none of the others - how do you know if the other maps are good or not? I downloaded about twenty five maps, played them all as Axis / Allies - got to know where everything was and judged how much fun it would be to play. Those maps came out top for me - I haven’t got into ET in the same way I got in RtCW - mainly because the game is too much for a V90 modem - but I can tell you that each of those maps has something slightly different to most other maps - xdam isn’t quite ready for primetime, but I trust SteelRat to get it right in the next map - I personally LOVED the idea of swinging from the lights in the church - I also LOVED all the hidey-holes that are in the map. 3 of the 4 would go straight into RtCW - et_assault won’t - it has the ‘flavour’ of mp_assault, but it’s actually been updated for ET with it’s objectives - no it isn’t the same as the Wolf version, but it’s plays really quite well and in it’s own right.

tbh, I don’t understand why your soo aggresive about it - I don’t make any money out of this at all - it’s just 'cause I thought it was fun - I keep running into this ‘attitude’ like I’m some kind of twat for not doing precisely what someone is demanding. Christ - I’m at the very beginning of learning how to use radiant and begin to map - wtf kind of encouragement is this?

(Xerxes) #15

He’s just having a bad X-Mas. Good luck on your custom server.

I do have some advice though, it won’t be popular, the custom scene is very small and the majority of the people won’t go into the trouble to download custom maps beforehand. :frowning:

(SCDS_reyalP) #16

That probably is part of the reason there aren’t many people going to your server. Working http downloads make thing much easier for players.

(Agrado) #17

Oops, you know you’re getting turned off on 23 Jan yes?

Heh. And what’s wrong with that? :smiley:

(ExP|Maximus191) #18

Personally i think Et pro is a quality mod and has fixed a hell of a lot of the bugs that are found in E.t .

(ToeD) #19

BoD public runs northpole frostbite and temple3.
its filled up good most of the time, but when frostbite comes on it usually drops to around 4 players left :(. a shame really because its such a balanced map really good for competition play! northpole is pretty populair we even have people asking for northpole :).
i do hate rtcw maps being converted and i dont get it why clanbase took base as a et map. i think they were just to lazy to even look at what customs are out there and play it safe with a boring played to death rtcw map, but thats just imho.

(evilsock) #20

yup I know - ah well. another server host bites the dust. Think I might just change it to Goldrush only - then it’d just be another empty server running a standard map :open_mouth: