Conversion of the map Marketgarden RTCW to ET ?

[ZebulonCR]

Hello,

My post is the map marketgarden for RTCW will converted for Ennemy Territory ?

Thanx for you

[Ifurita]

not yet.

[PlaidAvenger]

The map was ported over by =SG=Anxiety, one of the guys in our clan.

We have set up a dedicated server for this, offering FAST (about 500kb/s) downloading. We know it’s a big map, clocking in at about 38 MB, but once you see it you will TOTALLY understand why it’s such a large file size. With the FAST download from the server it only takes a couple of minutes, just enough time to run to the kitchen and grab a brew.

=SG=Marketgarden ET Server
67.19.80.148:27777

Hope to see you there, on the ORIGINAL Marketgarden server.

For more news and information on the Marketgarden project visit www.tsglcan.com/forums.

[Oxygen_o2]

why dont we just convert RTCW instead, stop all these stupid conversions

you wana play marketgarden do ya? BUY RTCW

[PlaidAvenger]

Guess what? RTCW is not the same game as ET. There are no landmines, covert ops, mortars, etc. THAT is why the map was ported, to give a new gaming experience, on a CLASSIC map.

[Demolama]

why dont we just convert RTCW instead, stop all these stupid conversions

you wana play marketgarden do ya? BUY RTCW

ah gotta love these type of people who just dont get it

sure we can play rtcw if we wanted to but ET is free. ET has a better chance of survival because of that reason alone. Iit has better netcode than rtcw, a working anti-lag, server redirect to download pk3s

new weapons, new maps, engineers have the abiliity to build things, team doors, command posts, ammo/health racks, campaign mode

its easier to convert the things that made Rtcw great over to ET than it would be to convert Et to RTCW

http://home.comcast.net/~dbpryor/rtcwmod.html

[ouroboro]

i’ve got to be honest with you, at the risk of being offensive, but i cannot stand all these RTCW conversions. someone said “they are different games”, and i agree, but not in a way that supports you. they are in fact different - that’s why i don’t wan’t to play RTCW maps in ET. i have RTCW, i am bored with those maps. in my opinion, these maps are ruining the ET scene. the worst example is et_ice. no offense to the converter (and since it’s not their design no offense can rightfully be taken) but that map is garbage in ET. whether or not it was ever any good in RTCW is debatable (i say it wasn’t, but i cannot stand cramped, tight little hallways filled with crates to begin with - i like room to move and breathe and adjust to the situation - i’m not a fan of cluster fucking in any game, either with the enemy or my teammates), but what is not up for debate is whether it’s suited to ET - it quite simply is not. yet i am forced to not only play that map now, but i am in fact forced to play it OFTEN and am even forced to grow to ENJOY it - or else - because it’s now a much-loved competition map, and i’m in a clan.

so whether i like it or not, if i want to play enemy territory at any level other than weekend pubbing on 10 map shrub dives (and i do), i now have to play et_ice constantly, as well as other maps either converted from - or heavily (and obviously) inspired by - RTCW. i cannot describe the sinking feeling i get every time i see that map loading. the only other map that gives me that feeling is railgun (strange really, since they are quite different. shrug sorry SD :)). those two maps make me want to just /quit and play another game. but i must soldier on…

this is uncool. please don’t continue this Total Conversion of ET into “RTCW with Mines”

@demoman: i respect your mod efforts, a backwards conversion is a perfectly logical idea, and i myself made a little mod that changed the smg’s back to RTCW stats just for my own amusement. i’ve played your mod on a full server a few times and had an absolute blast. but i certainly don’t want to see ET essentially absorbed by RTCW - or vice versa. they ARE in fact different games, and need to remain so. your mod certainly has it’s place, but NOT (in my opinion) as the logical direction for ET to take. rather it should be available as an alternative for those who want it.

again i say to everyone, if you don’t want RTCW to die, you need to PLAY it, rather than try to convince those players to convert to ET by making them feel at home here. if they want to play ET they should, but if they don’t like the differences in ET, they shouldn’t expect those differences to go away simply to suit their desires. i want artillery and airstrikes to go away, but they’re not going to - and they shouldn’t - not just because i want it.

as for ET being free, that’s not a valid justification for converting all the RTCW maps to ET so that RTCW players will come over - they already play RTCW, and thus they own it. as for new players, they are not likely to be looking at RTCW in one hand and ET in the other, trying to make a decision. for one thing, RTCW is getting old and there are many new games that are getting the attention. new blood in the wolfenstein franchise is unlikely until the next installment comes along. if, however, newbies looking for a cool free game to play decide to try ET, it will be in spite of the existence of RTCW, and they are in fact unlikely to even know RTCW exists.

in short, the fact that ET is free is utterly, totally and completely irrelevant insofar as any discussion about RTCW goes - one has no effect either positive or negative upon the other.

PS - all server admins please delete et_ice forthwith

[carnage]

ime a mepper for rtcw but i have mapped for ET and i do agree that the maps are very different, rtcw maps are not suited to ET, they tend to be smaller and have less foom for manouvorability, and ET needs this for the new weapons like mortar and mobile mg that need a long range to be realy effective

after saying that i feel that ET players are to small minded and only play maps that are big and easy to play witht the same outdoor tatics, what i would realy like to see is a map that actualy forces players to think, one that encourporates rtcw and ET in one, where the player must constantly change his tatics depending on his enviroment

i do prefer rtcw as there are indoor areas where you dont get constantly gibed by artilary in ET, is starting to jsut becoem imposible as orgonised players can keeep an objective constantly under artilary fire so the opositiion has no fair chance of wining

[Englander]

I always find it quite interesting seeing a RTCW map come over to ET and enjoy trying them out on a server,some work better than others but some do definatley work IMO, still hoping Black Forrest map gets done.