Containment War limited loadout cards.

(Caezar) #61

Is there gonna be a discard option?

#62

[quote=“Caezar;100205”]Is there gonna be a discard option?
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Not currently planned, no.
Maybe if you make enough noise for couple years they will implement it!

(B_Montiel) #63

In the case they want to create potential temporary loadouts that could be valuable in the hypothetical future trade system, 0.3% seems ok, but not the 10% not elite ones at the same time. This seems quite weird to me.

[quote=“Faraleth;100203”]Someone did the maths on reddit:
Not sure if it’s completely correct, and I’m too lazy to work it out myself as I’ve only just woken up xD But it looks roughly correct, regardless. :slight_smile:
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The chances of having an interesting CW loadout out of standard cases seems right (considering there’s 2/9 valuable loadouts for every merc).

On the other hand, opening 300 CW standard cases won’t guarantee you getting a CW loadout. Common probability mistake, chances does not add themselves at every roll.
I created a small calculation sheet to get the chances of having at least 1 loadout out of trade-ups or case openings (having 2 or more of the loadout with just adds couple of 0,0x% on top of that, not significant). I’m still working on some improvements, I might do a google spreadsheet or share clear results at some point if I’m statisfied with it.
With 300 cases, you have around 60% of dropping a CW loadout. To get over 90% chances of having a CW loadout out of standard cases, you’ll need… 750 CW cases.

Same goes for elite cases at lesser extent. If you don’t mind the special CW case, if you buy a 10 crates bundle, the chances of having at least one CW loadout out of them is just over 65%.

(MarsRover) #64

[quote=“Faraleth;100203”]Someone did the maths on reddit:

Not sure if it’s completely correct, and I’m too lazy to work it out myself as I’ve only just woken up xD But it looks roughly correct, regardless. :slight_smile:

I think the only thing I’ve majorly complained about in Dirty Bomb within the past couple of months was the awful, awful price of the trade-in system… And now this. Drop rate is absurdly low - so low in fact, they may as well not even be in the game. I know plenty of people who have upwards of 300 hours and never got a single gold or cobalt from an equipment case (and that’s 0.5% combined), and that’s in their entire time of playing. We only have 30 days for this.

Oh well, I guess it’s just like trade-in’s, I’ll just pretend they don’t exist.[/quote]

Math checks out. These percentages are ridiculous, both for normal and Elite cases.

At 3%those loadouts would be unique event rewards that are achievable to many users in those 30 days. By achievable I mean getting at least 1 usable loadout for a merc you like. They would be a “hey, I was here during that event” cards. At 0.3% CW loadouts are completely out of reach unless you are lucky or spend a significant amount of money.

If you could trade up to CW cards during the 30 days for a similar cost to Gold cards, that would make things a little better. That would also encourage people to spend credits on 1000c cases instead of harding them.

(Octosquid) #65

[quote=“Caezar;100205”]Is there gonna be a discard option?
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Why would you want to discard?? You don’t have limited backpack spaces or anything.

(Corpse) #66

So what’s the problem? A rare card type is being introduced and people complain that it is going to be rare to get one within 30 days without paying money for better chances? Isn’t that the whole point of it?
I get the feeling that a lot of people seem to think that they should be guaranteed to get one and with a loadout they would want to use.
But that would be rather detrimental to the rarity of it, while it’s obvious that it’s meant to be exceptionally rare to have.
You don’t need this card type,it’s just extra bling. Can’t you guys let this one type be actually rare?
Judging by the amount of cobalt a some people have, it would be nice to have a card type that’s actually rare to have.

(DB Genome editor) #67

“Rare” and “limited time special event” are two very different things. If these loadouts are meant to be tied to the CW event and not just another rarity level, then there is nothing wrong with people who actually participated in the event to expect a fair chance of getting one. Same idea as the Beta Fighter Obsidian, even if you never use it it’s still a badge of sort showing you were there.

(Lumi) #68

@Corpse

actually, Cobalts are present in such an extend because there are lots of people who actually pay to get that rare bling, which then turns it not so rare. The point being that the exact same thing will happen with CW loadouts. They will be all over. The problem is with the “has” and “has not” duality. Sucks to be part of an even, like playing every day for the next 30 days and still not get at least one CW loadout. That’s the shit part. If at least they would give everyone a free CW guaranteed case, then the 0.3% wouldn’t seem that bad anymore.

#69

It would be so much nicer if the Phoenix promotion gave CW guaranteed cases instead of Elites.

(tantalizingNote) #70

yay, new bling

(Yes) #71

Honestly, I don’t even know why they didn’t decide to do that.

(ostmustis) #72

0.003 for a cw card, 17 mercs, 9 cards per merc. I guess I would enjoy 6 of those cards so 1/8500 chance per case to get a useable card… hard to feel appriciated here >_<

(Bestfinlandball) #73

[quote=“Caezar;100205”]Is there gonna be a discard option?
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Maybe at some point, but not yet

(APRenpsy) #74

0.3% huh… just like my luck.

(Corpse) #75

But aren’t we already getting either Phoenix or an obsidian card as the event gift?

(Mister__Wiggles) #76

@Corpse
Yes we are, but 0.3% is just awful I’m afraid. I’m personally hoping that the elite versions of these cases have at least a 5% drop rate or I’m not going to bother opening any cases.

(watsyurdeal) #77

Was considering spending my 50000 credits on these…but honestly, I’d rather take my chances getting them as drops after a game. Rather save the 10 bucks on Stoker than a random chance thing.

(PaNdarat0r666) #78

Would have liked if SD made it so for the first week the % is much higher, 3-5%(?) then for the remainder of the month let it be at 0.3% as intended. At least it gives more people a reason to play to try get the loadout card.

(NaIKoLDY) #79

I dont get it…sorry!! The chance is 0,3%…the chance of a cobalt in regular cases is 0,1%…it´s free cases, u dont loose anything…u ALSO get either a free merc or 1 obsidancard and 2 elite cases…you shuld be happy and enjoy the gifts…stop being so greedy

(Lumi) #80

we’re enjoying the gifts. Nobody is complaining about that here. We’re merely sharing our thoughts on the drop rate of an event specific loadout, which has nothing to do with gifts.

Get behind our thought process. It’s an event based loadout and yet if you play the game every day for the entirety of the event the chances are you will still not get that loadout. It makes little sense, doesn’t it?