Containment War limited loadout cards.


(FireWorks) #41

Ouch now that hurts… Guys you really have way too much randomness in the whole system. I understand it to make it appealing for hundreds of hours, but event stuff has to go out for less.

2 questions:
Whats the rarity level of the cards?
Are there any loadouts changed or added?


(SereneFlight) #42

0.3% eh… well, that means no goodies for me.


(Runeforce) #43

No need for apologies, just change it back.


(RyePanda) #44

0.3% sounds like the real mistake here.

Edit: [spoiler][quote=“MissMurder;100022”]Apologies but there was a mistake and its it’s a 0.3% drop rate[/quote]

The actual mistake has been found. xD The grammar police strike again!
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(Runeforce) #45

0.3% sounds like the real mistake here.[/quote]

Obviously. And a last minute change by the evils of Nexon.


(Mister__Wiggles) #46

0.3% is incredibly low. I hope that’s just on the low end cases and not the elite case variants. I get this is how SD and nexon will fund the development of this update but just selling the skins on their own would have been more fair. But let’s wait and see guys, maybe the percentage will be different on the higher tier cases.


(cornJester) #47

Would pay $10 for a specific skin for a specific merc. Maybe $15. But this? Not going to spend money on it, it’s too random.


(Mister__Wiggles) #48

@cornJester
I agree the RNG doesn’t interest me as much as it used to. But I have money burning a hole in my pocket that I would probably spend on narcotics and alcohol so hey why not?


(Bestfinlandball) #49

At least i have my exams to worry about so i don’t have too much time to open these. Yea right, exam are gonna wait just a little. Lol
Also, @MissMurder , is it possible to buy the cases with credits ?


(CCP115) #50

[quote=“moon_moon;100111”]At least i have my exams to worry about so i don’t have too much time to open these. Yea right, exam are gonna wait just a little. Lol
Also, @MissMurder , is it possible to buy the cases with credits ?[/quote]

Don’t we all?

Just for a comparison, you all know how hard it is to unbox a bronze card right? That’s 3 percent. A gold card is 0.4 percent.

You have more chance of unboxing a gold card than a CW udpate card. Really? Those odds are beyond terrible.


(MarsRover) #51

That’s how I read it :cry:
http://i.imgur.com/Rn2HAPh.png


(Lumi) #52

Luckily I’ve had more random gold drops than bronze, maybe it’ll be the same for me with the CW loadouts. Time to buy regular cases in masses! I’ve been saving up credits just in case they released more than one merc. If Stoker is indeed the only merc, after trading up to get a decent bronze for him I’ll have around 100k to buy regular cases with. Let’s hope that’ll be enough… Thant and the two gift elite cases, will give me 10% chance each…

In any case, I must say that everyone seemed much happier when the announced drop rate for regular CW cases was 3%. Before it actually seemed a choice to get elite cases for this as odds were not completely lost for those not wishing to pay or just not able to. Now it seems more like a forced thing.

I hate feeling like I have to do something. I was actually considering supporting the game and buying some elite cases, when I believed the regular drop rate was 3%, but now the containment war update needs to be incredible for me to feel the same way. I’d rather miss out on the CW loadouts, then purchase elite cases because I have to in order to get the loadouts.


(Yes) #53

Well, I, personally, can’t wait to buy a bundle of 10 elites and get my only event loadout to be some shitty loadout for a merc I don’t like playing. :smile:


(NaIKoLDY) #54

Well in the regular cases that drops now, its a 0,1% chance for cobalt and 0,4% for gold so the odds are improved with the cw cases for a special cw loadout. And if you use real money and buy elite cases the odds as it is now, 5% chance for cobalt and 15% for gold…with the cw elite case its 10% to get a cw loadout card…if u buy 10 of them u get a case extra with 100% chance of cw card AND you still have 10 cases with a 10% chance to get even moore cw bling :slight_smile:


(Lumi) #55

Now that I think of it, CW loadouts might look like crap, so the “need” to have it will definitely be dependent on the actual skin given by the CW loadouts. I’m guessing it’ll be some shade of chromic yellow to reflect the containment shields colour, but nothing is certain I guess. But if I’m right then it’ll need to be different than gold and all but piss colour XD


(riptide) #56

You guys do realize that you would make more money if you just let the players buy what they wanted at a higher price, right? Not only that, the players would be happier too. SD/Nexon or whoever is in charge of the sales as well as the person(s) responsible for the loadout design needs to go back to the drawing board.

They are trying to mimic a system like CS/TF2 but without player trading. Instead they should look to Dota2 (which also has player trading, shocker I know). Even Marvel Heroes system would be better, most costumes cost more than heroes and there are several per hero. Some only showing up once every 3-6months.

Saying “soon” on player trading doesn’t justify the bad design.


#57

I wouldn’t be surprised if the 10% was really 1%…


(Lumi) #58

I think 10% is actually along the lines of what they were going for: a loadout with rarity right in between gold and cobalt. I just don’t think it should be that way. If it’s for everyone to get, it should be more in-between bronze and silver. Right now, it just seems an obsidian in disguise…


(Faraleth) #59

Someone did the maths on reddit:

So let me get this straight. You cannot get these skins by trading up, so the only chance to get one without paying real money is by random case drops.

The actual drop rate for a CW card is 0.3%, meaning that statistically speaking you need to open more than 300 cases to get a single CW card - which is already more than most people open within 30 days.

And the final nail in the coffin is that even if I somehow manage to get a CW loadout (again, 0.3% chance), there is only a 1/17 (~5.9%) chance that this CW loadout is for the merc that I want, and then add to that a 2/9 chance that the card doesn’t suck (most mercs only have 2 viable loadouts).

This leaves me with a 0.003*(1/17)*(2/9) chance to get a usable card for the merc I want, which according to Wolfram Alpha equates to a 0.0039% chance, aka 1/25500, aka ONE in TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED.

Not sure if it’s completely correct, and I’m too lazy to work it out myself as I’ve only just woken up xD But it looks roughly correct, regardless. :slight_smile:

I think the only thing I’ve majorly complained about in Dirty Bomb within the past couple of months was the awful, awful price of the trade-in system… And now this. Drop rate is absurdly low - so low in fact, they may as well not even be in the game. I know plenty of people who have upwards of 300 hours and never got a single gold or cobalt from an equipment case (and that’s 0.5% combined), and that’s in their entire time of playing. We only have 30 days for this.

Oh well, I guess it’s just like trade-in’s, I’ll just pretend they don’t exist.


(Caezar) #60

I want to discard my terrible skyhammer m4 logitech card