Competitive scene will be a JOKE.


(Szakalot) #41

This might sound condensing, but it’s an honest question I would much appreciate being answered:
Where would they bind Q/E to do that? I find myself lacking fingers or reachable keys to do that, only a mouse with 3 more keys would help me out. Any suggestions?
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pull out your nades by pressing ‘4’


(Zenity) #42

This might sound condensing, but it’s an honest question I would much appreciate being answered:
Where would they bind Q/E to do that? I find myself lacking fingers or reachable keys to do that, only a mouse with 3 more keys would help me out. Any suggestions?
[/quote]

Are you talking about priming your nades while jerking around? You don’t use Q for that but switch to the nade with the key for item 1 (which I have bound to C), and then prime with left mouse button.

Of course you can also rebind Q to something easier to access, but I find that switching to the tool is generally best anyway for anything that isn’t instant action.


(Jeebs) #43

Missing the main factor, there is no private servers in a game that’s been in a 3 year beta. No servers no comp. But yes the whole speed vs health at high level where people can aim is a disaster.


(Viquel) #44

Thanks, I didn’t really realize that 4 would be my ability in “dormant” mode. That makes it easier :slight_smile:


(guru{Chux}) #45

The problem with sticking together is that all of you just die together from 1 nade.


(Kroad) #46

[quote=“bumbertyr;15456”]Well if you’re bad you will lose every fight to a team with them. you make it seem like it’s nearly impossible to kill him when a couple of shots to the head WILL take him down.

[/quote]
of course it does, but a couple of their shots will take you down even faster
they’ll also most likely have a medic behind them to revive them the moment they die, while they can just nade you and you won’t be revivable

that is assuming he’s less than 3 seconds away from you, if he’s smart he’ll probably cook further away

level 14 =/= good
would like to know who this magical vasili is, chickenwaffles, linkz and hentai are the three best snipers i know of and they miss shots vs fraggers with good movement

?

dont need to learn to play around him, i took the easy route of playing him

of course you can sometimes take out fraggers as weaker classes but statisically, in a 1 on 1 situation, you will be losing those fights assuming equal skill


(Draceus) #47

[quote=“Kroad;15486”]
of course you can sometimes take out fraggers as weaker classes but statisically, in a 1 on 1 situation, you will be losing those fights assuming equal skill[/quote]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?


(Humbug) #48

[quote=“Draceus;15530”]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?[/quote]

I think you play fragger only?
It just isn’t fun to die like a stupid lemming in a FPS game…


(Draceus) #49

[quote=“Humbug;15534”][quote=“Draceus;15530”]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?[/quote]

I think you play fragger only?
It just isn’t fun to die like a stupid lemming in a FPS game…[/quote]

Fact is my main class used to be arty and sky, doesn’t change the fact though.
Just because you are getting killed by fragger in a 1v1 doesn’t equal to him needing a nerf to be as powerful as lets say a skyhammer, that defeats the whole point of the class


(Humbug) #50

[quote=“Draceus;15535”][quote=“Humbug;15534”][quote=“Draceus;15530”]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?[/quote]

I think you play fragger only?
It just isn’t fun to die like a stupid lemming in a FPS game…[/quote]

Fact is my main class used to be arty and sky, doesn’t change the fact though.
Just because you are getting killed by fragger in a 1v1 doesn’t equal to him needing a nerf to be as powerful as lets say a skyhammer, that defeats the whole point of the class[/quote]

there is just no way to outplay that guy. he will always win given same skill… he has teammates etc too…

comp teams would always run 2-3 fraggers atm.
in every class based shooter i played (ET, battlefield 3, TF2), the assault class isn’t favored in 1v1 at all. And in none of those you get kills for free without any skill required


(Nail) #51

except artillery, air strikes, mortars, engis with 9 grenades and 10 mines and thats just W:ET never played the other kiddie games


(Draceus) #52

[quote=“Humbug;15536”][quote=“Draceus;15535”][quote=“Humbug;15534”][quote=“Draceus;15530”]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?[/quote]

I think you play fragger only?
It just isn’t fun to die like a stupid lemming in a FPS game…[/quote]

Fact is my main class used to be arty and sky, doesn’t change the fact though.
Just because you are getting killed by fragger in a 1v1 doesn’t equal to him needing a nerf to be as powerful as lets say a skyhammer, that defeats the whole point of the class[/quote]

there is just no way to outplay that guy. he will always win given same skill… he has teammates etc too…

comp teams would always run 2-3 fraggers atm.
in every class based shooter i played (ET, battlefield 3, TF2), the assault class isn’t favored in 1v1 at all. And in none of those you get kills for free without any skill required
[/quote]

Oh, I was not aware I was playing ET, BF3 or TF2 when I started dirtybomb :slight_smile:


(Humbug) #53

agree on mortar xD
but the rest actually was either dodgeable or required skill, both most of the times


(Humbug) #54

[quote=“Draceus;15540”][quote=“Humbug;15536”][quote=“Draceus;15535”][quote=“Humbug;15534”][quote=“Draceus;15530”]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?[/quote]

I think you play fragger only?
It just isn’t fun to die like a stupid lemming in a FPS game…[/quote]

Fact is my main class used to be arty and sky, doesn’t change the fact though.
Just because you are getting killed by fragger in a 1v1 doesn’t equal to him needing a nerf to be as powerful as lets say a skyhammer, that defeats the whole point of the class[/quote]

there is just no way to outplay that guy. he will always win given same skill… he has teammates etc too…

comp teams would always run 2-3 fraggers atm.
in every class based shooter i played (ET, battlefield 3, TF2), the assault class isn’t favored in 1v1 at all. And in none of those you get kills for free without any skill required
[/quote]

Oh, I was not aware I was playing ET, BF3 or TF2 when I started dirtybomb :)[/quote]

nice argument bro…
fragger is totally op right now if you don’t see this i have no idea what’s wrong with you
You can’t just make 1 class 10000000 times better at killing in a SHOOTER, it never was like this in any shooter because it’s just stupid. teambased or not…
especially if this wants to be a competitive shooter.


(Nail) #55

meh, mines were invisible in W:ET, the way they should be. People whined about them constantly


(Humbug) #56

your hear them when you step on them. engineer can defuse it under your feet and you don’t even die if you jump…
everything was avoidable or counterable in et. even mortar killed you only once, then you knew his spots and timing


(Draceus) #57

[quote=“Humbug;15545”][quote=“Draceus;15540”][quote=“Humbug;15536”][quote=“Draceus;15535”][quote=“Humbug;15534”][quote=“Draceus;15530”]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?[/quote]

I think you play fragger only?
It just isn’t fun to die like a stupid lemming in a FPS game…[/quote]

Fact is my main class used to be arty and sky, doesn’t change the fact though.
Just because you are getting killed by fragger in a 1v1 doesn’t equal to him needing a nerf to be as powerful as lets say a skyhammer, that defeats the whole point of the class[/quote]

there is just no way to outplay that guy. he will always win given same skill… he has teammates etc too…

comp teams would always run 2-3 fraggers atm.
in every class based shooter i played (ET, battlefield 3, TF2), the assault class isn’t favored in 1v1 at all. And in none of those you get kills for free without any skill required
[/quote]

Oh, I was not aware I was playing ET, BF3 or TF2 when I started dirtybomb :)[/quote]

nice argument bro…
fragger is totally op right now if you don’t see this i have no idea what’s wrong with you
You can’t just make 1 class 10000000 times better at killing in a SHOOTER, it never was like this in any shooter because it’s just stupid. teambased or not…
especially if this wants to be a competitive shooter.
[/quote]
Fragger is not totally OP so something must be wrong with me :slight_smile: They are a little to strong but not “Totally OP”
And whats wrong with my argument? Just because those games you counted work in that way does this game also have to work like that? I dont see your logic.
And you cant say fragger is 10000000 better at killing, he aint even twice as good at killing as a sky


(Humbug) #58

[quote=“Draceus;15550”][quote=“Humbug;15545”][quote=“Draceus;15540”][quote=“Humbug;15536”][quote=“Draceus;15535”][quote=“Humbug;15534”][quote=“Draceus;15530”]

This is the whole point of the class, to win 1v1/2 battles. Is it broken for doing whats being intended?[/quote]

I think you play fragger only?
It just isn’t fun to die like a stupid lemming in a FPS game…[/quote]

Fact is my main class used to be arty and sky, doesn’t change the fact though.
Just because you are getting killed by fragger in a 1v1 doesn’t equal to him needing a nerf to be as powerful as lets say a skyhammer, that defeats the whole point of the class[/quote]

there is just no way to outplay that guy. he will always win given same skill… he has teammates etc too…

comp teams would always run 2-3 fraggers atm.
in every class based shooter i played (ET, battlefield 3, TF2), the assault class isn’t favored in 1v1 at all. And in none of those you get kills for free without any skill required
[/quote]

Oh, I was not aware I was playing ET, BF3 or TF2 when I started dirtybomb :)[/quote]

nice argument bro…
fragger is totally op right now if you don’t see this i have no idea what’s wrong with you
You can’t just make 1 class 10000000 times better at killing in a SHOOTER, it never was like this in any shooter because it’s just stupid. teambased or not…
especially if this wants to be a competitive shooter.
[/quote]
Fragger is not totally OP so something must be wrong with me :slight_smile: They are a little to strong but not “Totally OP”
And whats wrong with my argument? Just because those games you counted work in that way does this game also have to work like that? I dont see your logic.
And you cant say fragger is 10000000 better at killing, he aint even twice as good at killing as a sky
[/quote]

more hp than sky
better gun than sky
unavoidable grenades with low cooldown, vs avoidable airstrike with long cooldown
fragger is infinite times better than sky.

fragger is just gamebreaking, i call that totally op. I’m not a guy that rages in games but fragger made me quit the game multiple times already xD


(Nail) #59

awww, don’t worry Fragger is getting nerfed very soon


(smartIsland) #60

can anyone compare the panzerfaust and fraggers nades in terms of capacity and refresh time? both instant killed +gibbed

I remember a lot of complaining about panzer spam but it worked out ok. I suppose notable differences are inability to cancel and cooking but panzer still instant killed so it was basically the same as a cooked instant kill. It also made a loud noise while charging, perhaps nade could beep while cooking?