CMM is the future of DB... and that makes me sad

(hawkeyeguy99) #1

Ever since the Javelin update came out my playtime in game has plummeted. Logging in and playing a game or two to get my daily reward feels more like a chore than a joy. I attribute this to mostly how long I’ve been playing the game (I need a break) but also to the new direction I see the game heading off in. I’m going to get it out of the way real fast so I don’t have to talk about it for the rest of the post: Javelin’s release destroyed the fun of the game for me and I can’t wait for her nerf and for people to stop stacking her in matches. Ok, no more on that.

CMM is fine, it works moderately well and I’ve had decently balanced matches pretty much every time. But it’s not casual. Not in the way I’ve grown to love DB for being casual. DB was the game I could always just go play for a bit, have a GREAT time and then move on. But with CMM it feels more like a poorer version of Overwatch than DB. I’m waiting an excess of 3-5 minutes to get into one objective match, which then when someone rage quits I’m am throughly screwed for the next 3-5 minutes of gameplay until matchmaking gets another player to replace them. This problem is compounded by the fact that it’s always 6v6. Basically all the balance problems with ranked are now in the non-ranked mode and that sucks.

I would FAR rather have quick join and the server browser back. It was casual, fun, and if I didn’t like the balance of the match I didn’t have to stay. I could always just go find another server instead. But now I feel like I’m committing to “mini-ranked” every time I click play and I dislike playing ranked with every fiber of my being.

This is the direction SD wants to take Dirty Bomb, they’ve made that obvious. More power to them but I don’t think I’m down for “Dirty Overwatch”. If I want that, I’ll go play Overwatch. Dirty Bomb was and is unique and the way CMM is destroying the casual and fun nature of the game for me is very sad for me to see. When stopwatch is removed from the server browser my playtime will decrease significantly and that sucks. Wish it could be different.

(ImSploosh) #2

CMM and the removal of Execution killed the game for me. I agree with almost everything except Javelin. I find her to be fairly balanced overall, except that OP ammo ability. Her rocket isn’t as bad as everyone thought. A small tweak or two might help, but honestly, she’s fine as is. I find myself dying to her rocket very rarely.

(Foxyens) #3

100% same here. I play this game only for fun and CMM is just slightly less crappy ranked.

(WatchAsILead) #4

The way you word this post you make it seem like CMM ruins the whole game for you:

1.) People still leave server browser matches lol, so whether a player leaves in server browser or CMM you’re still screwed for 3-5 minutes waiting for someone to backfill that spot.

2.) Javelin is getting a nerf so cool your jets

3.) CMM will put you in games faster when the player base gets bigger when more people start using it. and even in CSGO or PUBG, a game with 200,000+ Players it still takes 1-2 minutes to get in game

4.) Its considered casual and theres no impact on whether you win or lose. If you dont like the balance of a CMM match you dont have to stay, leave and someone will fill your spot.

5.) Maybe you feel like its a mini ranked match because you’re actually getting pair with people your skill level. So now you feel like you actually have to try instead of pub stomping noobs.

(MarsRover) #5

Every time I read complaints like yours it boggles me how something that is basically a UI change, suddenly transforms a game mode from “casual” to “mini-ranked”.

Before CMM you clicked on a random server with random people. Now you click Play->CMM and the effect is the same. You wait a bit longer (not that much longer compared to joining a “Lobby” server) but the upside is that games start with full teams, and player skill is much closer. Pretty much no level 1s staying in spawn tinkering with settings, no level 3s getting lost. At least that’s my experience.

8v8 is going away as SD said during the Dome rework.

Also everything that @WatchAsILead wrote above.

(Your worst knifemare.) #6

All i would like to see for CMM is to let each player choose to stay in a lobby with the people they just played with.

(The_True_mo) #7

Please trust sd, they know all and see all. Buy some skins k bye.

(Nail) #8

lol, I’ve been reading posts for over 3 years that all say, “this 'n that” will kill DB, it hasn’t and won’t. The people building this game know what they’re doing.

(hawkeyeguy99) #9

@Nail said:
lol, I’ve been reading posts for over 3 years that all say, “this 'n that” will kill DB, it hasn’t and won’t. The people building this game know what they’re doing.

Never said it’s going to kill the game. The current direction is just killing my personal enjoyment of it. If anything I think they are getting more players and the game is more healthy now than it was a few months ago. But I’m a selfish a-hole and want the Dirty Bomb I like regardless of how many new players start playing with their fat wallets lol

(watsyurdeal) #10

I still hop on when I can, believe it or not I enjoy Stopwatch.

Just wish we had rentable servers already so I can set something up and yall can stop b!^%$*ing.

(ImSploosh) #11

@WatchAsILead said:
The way you word this post you make it seem like CMM ruins the whole game for you:

1.) People still leave server browser matches lol, so whether a player leaves in server browser or CMM you’re still screwed for 3-5 minutes waiting for someone to backfill that spot.

2.) Javelin is getting a nerf so cool your jets

3.) CMM will put you in games faster when the player base gets bigger when more people start using it. and even in CSGO or PUBG, a game with 200,000+ Players it still takes 1-2 minutes to get in game

4.) Its considered casual and theres no impact on whether you win or lose. If you dont like the balance of a CMM match you dont have to stay, leave and someone will fill your spot.

5.) Maybe you feel like its a mini ranked match because you’re actually getting pair with people your skill level. So now you feel like you actually have to try instead of pub stomping noobs.

It HAS ruined the game for a lot of people. There’s just too many issues with it and it doesn’t fit DB. We don’t have, and probably never will, a massive playerbase. Also, it’s just not casual. It’s essentially Ranked without rewards. Just because I’m as good as a no-life, tryharding 24/7 dude doesn’t mean I want to play like that all of the time (hence ranked). The casual, fun aspect isn’t there in CMM.

Unfortunately, there’s also other issues with it like having only 6v6 servers, no option to select sub-region (U.S. East or West) which makes it unplayable, and the wait. There’s more, just can’t think of it at the moment. I’d have to play it again lol

(Demolama) #12

@Nail said:
lol, I’ve been reading posts for over 3 years that all say, “this 'n that” will kill DB, it hasn’t and won’t. The people building this game know what they’re doing.

LOL do you even play DB?

(Nail) #13

@Demolama said:

@Nail said:
lol, I’ve been reading posts for over 3 years that all say, “this 'n that” will kill DB, it hasn’t and won’t. The people building this game know what they’re doing.

LOL do you even play DB?

why yes, I do, just not as Nail

(Press E) #14

Honestly I’ve been playing on AUS objective servers with 200 ping just to avoid CMM.
I dislike stopwatch, it’s often too dragged out and I’d rather save it for ranked. Not to mention the fact that there are barely any stopwatch servers.

I know I’m not the only one doing this either.

(Demolama) #15

You damn filthy smurf :smiley:

(Nail) #16

HEY, I’m very clean

edit: I don’t play DB on my Nail account (steam), I use it to collect free things from the game just to see what you can get without playing, my friend’s young daughter plays H.O.G. games on it though :smiley:

I have a separate account through my business network that I embarrass myself with when I play (lousy player, too old)

(WatchAsILead) #17

@ImSploosh said:

@WatchAsILead said:
The way you word this post you make it seem like CMM ruins the whole game for you:

1.) People still leave server browser matches lol, so whether a player leaves in server browser or CMM you’re still screwed for 3-5 minutes waiting for someone to backfill that spot.

2.) Javelin is getting a nerf so cool your jets

3.) CMM will put you in games faster when the player base gets bigger when more people start using it. and even in CSGO or PUBG, a game with 200,000+ Players it still takes 1-2 minutes to get in game

4.) Its considered casual and theres no impact on whether you win or lose. If you dont like the balance of a CMM match you dont have to stay, leave and someone will fill your spot.

5.) Maybe you feel like its a mini ranked match because you’re actually getting pair with people your skill level. So now you feel like you actually have to try instead of pub stomping noobs.

It HAS ruined the game for a lot of people. There’s just too many issues with it and it doesn’t fit DB. We don’t have, and probably never will, a massive playerbase. Also, it’s just not casual. It’s essentially Ranked without rewards. Just because I’m as good as a no-life, tryharding 24/7 dude doesn’t mean I want to play like that all of the time (hence ranked). The casual, fun aspect isn’t there in CMM.

Unfortunately, there’s also other issues with it like having only 6v6 servers, no option to select sub-region (U.S. East or West) which makes it unplayable, and the wait. There’s more, just can’t think of it at the moment. I’d have to play it again lol

But theres no reason why it should ruin the game for anyone. The only reason you feel like CMM is essentially ranked is because you get paired with players that are your skill. What it seems like you want is an all access pass to play with people worse than you so theres no competition, so you can sit at the top of the scoreboard without even trying.

Casual gaming = Easy gaming for you and thats not how it works, nor how it should work. If you want to pub stomp noobs all day then you might as well play with bots or some PVE game.

(Press E) #18

@WatchAsILead said:
But theres no reason why it should ruin the game for anyone. The only reason you feel like CMM is essentially ranked is because you get paired with players that are your skill. What it seems like you want is an all access pass to play with people worse than you so theres no competition, so you can sit at the top of the scoreboard without even trying.

Casual gaming = Easy gaming for you and thats not how it works, nor how it should work. If you want to pub stomp noobs all day then you might as well play with bots or some PVE game.

The main reason I hate CMM is not because I’m put against people my skill level, it actually seems the opposite. It was no different from the average quickjoin match for me, and almost all of my CMM matches ended in me spawncamping the other team. I like a challenge, but it just seemed like the same thing, but 6v6 and with long wait times.

Maybe I’m just super unlucky with match balance, but most of the time it honestly seems less balanced than quickjoin. I got sick of stomping a team and not being able to shuffle or switch to balance things out, all the while half of their team leaves.

(Melinder) #19

@STARRYSOCK said:
Honestly I’ve been playing on AUS objective servers with 200 ping just to avoid CMM.

Oi get off me servers you laggy dog.

#20

I just want to drop this in here:

If the stars align and rentable servers become a thing, I will pay to keep an Execution server open as much as reasonably possible. I’m praying this will be an option 'cause I’m assuming they still have all the code sorcery for the maps and such in the game.

I will be the hero y’all need. Don’t you worry.