Closed Beta Update V41588 (6th January 2015)


(spookify) #101

[QUOTE=ToonBE;520029]Picking up weapons would be stupid… How can you even suggest that? The whole thing about dirty bomb are the different mercs with their own set of weapons… And what about the balance? Sawbonez with potent health packs augment that picks up fraggers gun?? If that guy has gor half decent aim and knows how to use his medpacks he is almost invincible… So no: weapons cannot be picked up!

Oh and csgo is ****[/QUOTE]

I totally understand your point!

SD also said that they want certain mercs to have certain guns; short range guns for faster mercs or something like that.

I could and couldnt imagine SAW with fraggers gun… Would it slow SAW down? Is it really an advantage because SAW has 40 less HP? Could you limit pick ups for class and range only?

#1) Would picking up the gun slow down a faster class? (Fraggers gun on Proxy?)
#2) You could limit “light” class mercs having the ability to only pick up “light” class guns. (Bush to SAW to Proxy to Phoenix) (Fragger to Thunder to Rhino)
#3) No penalty - The primary gun always sets that mercs speed as having the default primary out.
#4) Combination of #1 - Fragger gets slightly faster picking up SAWs gun.

After thinking about speeds what do people think of having all merc default speed with Knife out being the same? Proxy and Fragger Knife out = Same

  • This would solve a ton of problems with the trick and wall jumping.
  • This would solve gun pick up speeds because the Gun would determine speed.
  • This would solve “Doc” Runs and proxy being OP however she would still be fastest with primary gun out.
  • This would normalize map distances, spawn and objective timing.

(INF3RN0) #102

I’d be fine with weapon pickups if they were type restricted to what the merc can already use; ie SMG->SMG, AR->AR, etc.


(Szakalot) #103

thats pretty inconsistent though; why not just drop this altogether, I don’t really see what is so amazing about this idea. It fits ET really well, but this is a different game : )


(spookify) #104

It did fit ET and that was for same class style weapons.

The main reason it was brought up was because with gun skins you can show off the other players gun as a trophy. A lot of people like that in CS. COD also had a customization area in the game for guns and that was super cool.

I spend time putting my logo on my COD gun:

//youtu.be/f3rrTxhgtrY

I got a lot of comments about how cool that looked. Especially unique customization!

This could be an area for SD and Nexon to make money!

OK Imagine this!

Imagine if Guns were like Trophy’s or Dog Tags in BF. The Dog tag idea was simi cool in BF for a little while but you really cant show it off! You can however show off that players gun. If you kill that player and pick up their gun it is then logged as if a Dog tag was. Say I kill Potty and he spent hours customizing his gun and oh yeah it has a Founders tag on it! I kill him pick it up and boom its in my inventory. I can equip that gun skin as my own however when anyone is specing you it will say Pottys gun and the time you took it from him. Can you tell I have been playing CS hahaha!!
The way to make money would be to trade the gun. Potty and Inferno can trade guns but for $1 so a transaction cost of $2 goes in SD’s pocket… This is a double whammy because you get two people to pay $1 for the trade. This would open the door to people that are amazing at designing guns and also trading high demand gun cough like mine :tongue:

A super awesome customization screen would need to be implemented.

Ways for SD to make Money:
Speed Keys
Transactions Fee (Trading)
Maybe you could lock some of the customization?
There’s more but Im working and cant think of any right now.

I know I got a little off track but this whole thing is for making spectating this game awesome. I am sure Teamplay and flat out ownage will come but some people are also into details.


(Szakalot) #105

thats actually a good point; but since we know very little about the monetization plan, maybe we can shelve it, and focus on the gameplay? : )


(INF3RN0) #106

It was more to do with giving momentum to killstreaks rather than picking up a new gun, but it also would help to promote skins as well.


(spookify) #107

Exactly!!!


(Njsfirth) #108

Sometimes the people on these forums astound me, why are some people here if they hate the game so much!

I like the ideas though guys, but let’s wait for the next update, figure out what is happening, then discuss what comes next!


(spookify) #109

[QUOTE=Njsfirth;520040]Sometimes the people on these forums astound me, why are some people here if they hate the game so much!

I like the ideas though guys, but let’s wait for the next update, figure out what is happening, then discuss what comes next![/QUOTE]

Most of us have been playing two+ years and we basically need to say what is on our minds at that moment haha. Waiting for magical patches has never come and you need to voice your ideas because it takes a long time to happen.

But as you state I am sure SD has a path that it wants to stick to and we might be going a little off track but these are still things SD needs our input on because they are not fully in the game yet and now is the time for these suggestions :smiley:

They have said they want to get a few things nailed down but what those things are we can only guess… I personally think Menu and Bugs. Balance will always be changing right up until the release.

Start threads post ideas and get your voice out there no matter how odd it is. I have said a few things years back and they are in the game now. Still not sure if they went with my idea or were already planning it but yeah.


(xdc) #110

why are you posting to ask me why im posting to ask why others are posting?


(Nail) #111

I was bored


(sunshinefats) #112

Although I loved weapon pickups in BO2, I don’t think DB really lends itself to that. I’d personally rather see a scavenger type ability to allow you to refill ammo and grenades more quickly. I’m open to debate on refilling grenades(since I know ppl already think they’re op) but there have been plenty of times when I’m down to 1 clip of pistol ammo, the field ops and pyro on our team isn’t giving any out, and there are no stashes nearby that I can get to without being killed. In that scenario, having a scavenger ability would literally be a game changer for me, and that’s an augment I would work towards getting, be it through crafting or whatever.


(Njsfirth) #113

One of the augments was actually “On kill of a light class they drop ammo on kill of a medic they drop health”

I think i only ever got it on redeye or vasilli though


(Smooth) #114

Game balance will be changing up to release, and well beyond release too! That’s the great thing about not being a boxed product.

Balance is something that will evolve over time, not something that will ever have a fixed deadline.

It is fairly simple for us to tweak and test so it’s not the absolute highest priority right now. We also need things like Ranked 5v5 Matchmade games and a larger more active player-base to really be able to judge things like ‘winning percentage’ for individual weapons and Mercs.

PS. Weapon pick-ups are counter to our Merc & Weapon loadout system, so currently aren’t a planned feature.


(BomBaKlaK) #115

What about maps ? (any massive change ?)
Dedicated server ? (Binaries, server rental, etc …)
any news on this points for next release ?


(Glottis-3D) #116

you know, i have a pretty nice suggestion here:

get the RU version online (give the build to DDestiny) - and you’ll get like 25000 players starving for game since may 2014. (when it was first announced by DDestiny, that CBT will be re-launched in RU)

=)
just saying…


(spookify) #117

Well I got nothing now. Will just have to wait until the next patch to see what was done.

But we can guess:

I am hoping for some Augment changes to test out!! :smiley:

New Bridge?

Bug Fixes?

Some small balance tweaks?

Menu Tweaks?

Hud Tweaks including hit feedback?

Weapon and Merc Stats?

Tweak Badges?

OBJ Mode Tweaked?

Some small Player Abilities Tweaked?

Store being worked on?

Crafting?

Whatcha think?

EDIT: Focus on Match Making? Removing some Modes? I would love to see that!!


(xdc) #118

still no update? never fails to disappoint me


(Mustang) #119

They said it would be weeks, so why do you keep saying the same thing every few days?


(Njsfirth) #120

Because he’s being a “troll” apparently. Who knows.