Cheats and game quitting

(SCDS_reyalP) #21

It looks like the latest PB release should improve this quite a bit.

can any of the pb naysayers explain to me what they mean by “pb sucks” or “15 days - 5mins” or “updated… with useless crap” in slightly more detail? you know, get technical if you like,

duke’kus statement was most likely based posts on a cheater message board, and is fairly accurate, if slightly exaggerated (yes evenbalance is aware of the site in question).

I wouldn’t say PB was useless crap, but IMO, there are certainly things they could have done better.

Given the ineffectiveness of banning in ET, it is a tough problem.

(Digm) #22

People generally scream “cheater” when people are much, much better than them.

Work on your aim.

(amazinglarry) #23

Same here man. It’s really funny when that happens. I’ve been in servers where some players are just mediocre and then after I have them pinned in a spawn for a while they become significantly better. Then they’ll say something to the effect of, “Ok Larry now we’re even, turn off your hacks and I’ll turn off mine.”

Then almost as if PB was waiting for them to say that, they’re banned for all kinds of hacks. :drink:

(Fenris) #24

I got sort of tired of the whole thing so I started adding all guid’s that had “wallhack” or “aimbot” in the kick message into the permanent PB banlist, after 17 persons there hasn’t been one kick in several weeks :drink:

Ok, there’s always a chance that these kinds of players gets new guid’s and new cheats, but hey it’s a game, you win sometimes, you loose sometimes and if they have to work that hard to get a cheat to keep ahead of PB patternfiles I think I can stand loosing a game every now and then, basically I don’t really care as the main point for me is to have some fun and it can be just as fun even if you loose.

Anyway, atm I’m running a 3-campaign scenario with 10 custom maps, so I get more “dedicated” players, somehow I imagine downloading all these maps just to (possibly) be kicked the moment you enter the game is not that tempting, although it still happens, but currently mostly for banned cvar settings instead.

Though I sometimes feel that there could have been more configuration possibilities in PB, like for instance enabling banning instead of kicking for specific cheats selectable by the server admin, i.e. I would for example have set all aimbots/wallhacks to bans, and keep the cvar errors to kicks as they are today.

(Lekdevil.NL) #25

I second that option. I currently don’t operate a server, but banning for all “real” cheats would be my preferred course of action as well. Getting PB to do it automatically (as an option, of course) would greatly reduce the hassle of pouring over the log files manually.

You might want to suggest that to PB. I’m sure that it can be implemented very easily and it will be if enough people ask for it.

Cheers.

(blushing_bride) #26

Me either.[/quote]

nope never seen a cheat either

(Majin) #27

Since the game came out I have never seen someone using a hack.

I almost always play on limited lifes servers, and I almost always have quiet a lot of time to spectate fellow players once I am out of lifes. Never have I seen anything that looks like someone had a wallhack, an aimbot, or anything of that manner.

I have seen some freakishly skilled players though.

(ziege) #28

Me either.[/quote]

nope never seen a cheat either[/quote]

Me neither.

(Bongoboy) #29

I’ve never encountered a cheat either, although I seem to run into player vastly better than me pretty much every time I play : P

No system is perfect. If you’re concerned about cheaters (and who wouldn’t be?) is there any doubt that the best thing to do is to report any examples of suspicious behaviour or outright cheating to PB?

Part of problem/solution dilemma: Solved!

:moo:

(Kerunch) #30

I’m waiting for the day I’m accused of cheating as it would mean finally I’m kicking real ass!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

(Agrado) #31

I’ve never seen a cheat either although I got accused again of using an aimbot this weekend :smiley:

I played CounterStrike for a couple of hours once and there were cheats all over the place (they were bragging about it in chat).

PunkBuster is clearly not perfect but it is also clearly much better than nothing. I’m amazed it still works at all to be honest.

(ND80) #32

Cheats clearly are used in ET, more than some think and significantly less than what others think. One look at my bans list shows that aimbots/wallhacks/gamehacks and speedhacks are out there and being used. PB, while not perfect, is better than nothing.

While it would be nice if PB included an auto ban for hack detection, there are ways to do that yourself. SiliconSlick has written a script for my servers that automatically bans anyone by IP and Guid causing using hacks detected by PB. It’s customizable also so that if you decide not to ban someone detected using a video hack, you can exclude that violation.

(StormShadow) #33

Heres a semi-solution to cheats:

http://www.punksbusted.com

This site allows server admins to download a list of pb GUID’s of ppl who have been busted cheating and add them to their server banlist. It also allows admins to upload the list of hackers busted on their own servers. If all server admins participated, then cheaters would have nowhere to play. But of course, thats just wishful thinking… but, the greater the number of admins who participate, the more complete the cheater ‘master list’ becomes, and the less likely it will be for cheaters to play on your server.
Anyway, its an interesting idea… just thought id throw it out there.