Case booster are bull sh!t


(MarsRover) #361

I edited that out again, sorry. Chance is chance. The linearity comes from the time based thing as I explained at the start of this all.[/quote]

You didn’t describe a single thing that fits to “the drop rate boost is linear”.

“10 boosters =1h, 5 boosters = 500h” is not linear.


(somberPlasma) #362

i took me 77 games with 10 boosters to get a case, im now stacking up again, ill start counting again after i get 10 boosters.

i got almost 30 regular cases by the time i got a single suspect case, how in the world that is “same drop rate” is beyong me.

(spoiler alert: i guarantee it won’t be in 3~4 matches with is the amout it takes to get a regular case")

ill give my ID when i get 10 boosters again so you can look for yourself.


(Randomdeath) #363

On top of that, if 10 boosters = 1h then explain all the whiners earlier in the thread who have 10 boosters and have played 50+ games with nothing. You’re a f*ckin GOD if you can finish 50 games in 1h


(eclipsedHouse) #364

On top of that, if 10 boosters = 1h then explain all the whiners earlier in the thread who have 10 boosters and have played 50+ games with nothing. You’re a f*ckin GOD if you can finish 50 games in 1h[/quote]

woah woah…sorry…I should’ve said I was making up numbers to highlight a difference in possible scenarios.

Sorry again…the numbers I provided are in no way related to actual results in the game.


(FerfyDerf) #365

On top of that, if 10 boosters = 1h then explain all the whiners earlier in the thread who have 10 boosters and have played 50+ games with nothing. You’re a f*ckin GOD if you can finish 50 games in 1h[/quote]

woah woah…sorry…I should’ve said I was making up numbers to highlight a difference in possible scenarios.

Sorry again…the numbers I provided are in no way related to actual results in the game.[/quote]

Technically what you described was linear, with it going from 1000 hours taking off 100 hour chunks down to 1 hour. However, it’s just another theory, but made to establish the point that a different type of linear could exist.


(Randomdeath) #366

how about we all stop making shit up and coming up with theories and just tell sd that rng is usually bs and they should make all the cards buy-able (including event cards) OR use adifferent type of chance system that crunches numbers, just not the rng they have now.

If the cards were buyable the only thing wrong with that is the secial edition cards would be too spendy and the community would whine, then they would get so cheap they arent rare. Maybe 200k credit for one? and 150k for a cobalt?


(FireWorks) #367

[quote=“FerfyDerf;168352”]
Technically what you described was linear, with it going from 1000 hours taking off 100 hour chunks down to 1 hour. However, it’s just another theory, but made to establish the point that a different type of linear could exist.[/quote]

The pseudo-RNG is very common in games. http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution

Its basically a standard mechanic for loot drops as far as I can tell. Simply because it feels a lot better than true RNG which we seem to suffer from in the cobalt drops in normal cases.


(somberPlasma) #368

we are only discussing so much because we don’t have enough people with 10 boosters, so we have to calculate how much an x amount of boosters would be, and people with that amount of credits to throw around like that probably aren’t bothered enough to come in the forum.


(Runeforce) #369

But we don’t know. Could as well be based of weather patterns.

I’ve heard Smooth if working on an official announcement.


(Randomdeath) #370

[quote=“FireWorks;168358”][quote=“FerfyDerf;168352”]
Technically what you described was linear, with it going from 1000 hours taking off 100 hour chunks down to 1 hour. However, it’s just another theory, but made to establish the point that a different type of linear could exist.[/quote]

The pseudo-RNG is very common in games. http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution

Its basically a standard mechanic for loot drops as far as I can tell. Simply because it feels a lot better than true RNG which we seem to suffer from in the cobalt drops in normal cases.[/quote]

So its not an RNG event, its a PRD event… Am i getting it right so far?

If i am correct than the developers should have STATED its not rng, and that its prd. I still feel cheated no matter how much these booster chances are explained


(FireWorks) #371

[quote=“Randomdeath;168362”][quote=“FireWorks;168358”][quote=“FerfyDerf;168352”]
Technically what you described was linear, with it going from 1000 hours taking off 100 hour chunks down to 1 hour. However, it’s just another theory, but made to establish the point that a different type of linear could exist.[/quote]

The pseudo-RNG is very common in games. http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution

Its basically a standard mechanic for loot drops as far as I can tell. Simply because it feels a lot better than true RNG which we seem to suffer from in the cobalt drops in normal cases.[/quote]

So its not an RNG event, its a PRD event… Am i getting it right so far?

If i am correct than the developers should have STATED its not rng, and that its prd. I still feel cheated no matter how much these booster chances are explained[/quote]

  1. you are way better of with prng since you are likely to get your drop instead of the other guy having yours and the ones of your friends. dont you wanna jump right through the monitor when some 10hour dude posts his 4th cobalt in a row?

  2. i get the part about feeling cheated… i feel similar. hidden mechanics suck and we still dont know the core of this whole the affair, and maybe never will since its integral part of many f2p games to hide behind enourmous RNG walls and not explaining it.


(Randomdeath) #372

[quote=“FireWorks;168372”][quote=“Randomdeath;168362”][quote=“FireWorks;168358”][quote=“FerfyDerf;168352”]
Technically what you described was linear, with it going from 1000 hours taking off 100 hour chunks down to 1 hour. However, it’s just another theory, but made to establish the point that a different type of linear could exist.[/quote]

The pseudo-RNG is very common in games. http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution

Its basically a standard mechanic for loot drops as far as I can tell. Simply because it feels a lot better than true RNG which we seem to suffer from in the cobalt drops in normal cases.[/quote]

So its not an RNG event, its a PRD event… Am i getting it right so far?

If i am correct than the developers should have STATED its not rng, and that its prd. I still feel cheated no matter how much these booster chances are explained[/quote]

  1. you are way better of with prng since you are likely to get your drop instead of the other guy having yours and the ones of your friends. dont you wanna jump right through the monitor when some 10hour dude posts his 4th cobalt in a row?

  2. i get the part about feeling cheated… i feel similar. hidden mechanics suck and we still dont know the core of this whole the affair, and maybe never will since its integral part of many f2p games to hide behind enourmous RNG walls and not explaining it.[/quote]

Even if we do have a better chance with this than we do rng, its still set up by them so we put more hours in. They notice their players playing less and less so they try to reel them back in with a shitty event OF WHICH THEY FALSLY ADVERTIZE to get more hours so appeal to more people. Take note that if your game is dying it probably shitty in one or another and fiX THAT instead of making MORE FCKARY to drive current players away. Yes im acting SUPER immature right now, but its because im DONE with SD bs. (but i really have nothing better to play until overwatch comes out so Fck it)


(p4v) #373

To be honest it’s the last event I participate in. I’m done. The more grinding it requires to get a special loadout, the more I dislike the game because I’m playing it too much.

CW loadouts = 0
WtD loadouts = 1 (yey)
Suspect loadouts = 0 and my credits wasted for nothing


(Randomdeath) #374

[quote=“p4v;168381”]To be honest it’s the last event I participate in. I’m done. The more grinding it requires to get a special loadout, the more I dislike the game because I’m playing it too much.

CW loadouts = 0
WtD loadouts = 1 (yey)
Suspect loadouts = 0 and my credits wasted for nothing[/quote]

[quote=“p4v;168381”]To be honest it’s the last event I participate in. I’m done. The more grinding it requires to get a special loadout, the more I dislike the game because I’m playing it too much.

CW loadouts = 0
WtD loadouts = 1 (yey)
Suspect loadouts = 0 and my credits wasted for nothing[/quote]

I think you would be MORE dissapointed if you actually got a loadout. They look like shit. I have a vid going up soon that i can link you to, that has my single ReV loadout for Sawbones. I got this case in my first game with no boosters. 5 boosters later thats still my only event loadout


(Jesus) #375

[quote=“Randomdeath;168382”][quote=“p4v;168381”]To be honest it’s the last event I participate in. I’m done. The more grinding it requires to get a special loadout, the more I dislike the game because I’m playing it too much.

CW loadouts = 0
WtD loadouts = 1 (yey)
Suspect loadouts = 0 and my credits wasted for nothing[/quote]

[quote=“p4v;168381”]To be honest it’s the last event I participate in. I’m done. The more grinding it requires to get a special loadout, the more I dislike the game because I’m playing it too much.

CW loadouts = 0
WtD loadouts = 1 (yey)
Suspect loadouts = 0 and my credits wasted for nothing[/quote]

I think you would be MORE dissapointed if you actually got a loadout. They look like @$!#. I have a vid going up soon that i can link you to, that has my single ReV loadout for Sawbones. I got this case in my first game with no boosters. 5 boosters later thats still my only event loadout[/quote]

For me its not about how pretty they are its about collection and showing off. I love it when noobs asks me how to get the CW card i play with and i can tell them straight in their face that they cant have this swag. Thats just about having it to say I have it. I’m already mad enough that ill never get the founders… and the alpha cards…


(Randomdeath) #376

[quote=“Jesus;168384”][quote=“Randomdeath;168382”][quote=“p4v;168381”]To be honest it’s the last event I participate in. I’m done. The more grinding it requires to get a special loadout, the more I dislike the game because I’m playing it too much.

CW loadouts = 0
WtD loadouts = 1 (yey)
Suspect loadouts = 0 and my credits wasted for nothing[/quote]

[quote=“p4v;168381”]To be honest it’s the last event I participate in. I’m done. The more grinding it requires to get a special loadout, the more I dislike the game because I’m playing it too much.

CW loadouts = 0
WtD loadouts = 1 (yey)
Suspect loadouts = 0 and my credits wasted for nothing[/quote]

I think you would be MORE dissapointed if you actually got a loadout. They look like @$!#. I have a vid going up soon that i can link you to, that has my single ReV loadout for Sawbones. I got this case in my first game with no boosters. 5 boosters later thats still my only event loadout[/quote]

For me its not about how pretty they are its about collection and showing off. I love it when noobs asks me how to get the CW card i play with and i can tell them straight in their face that they cant have this swag. Thats just about having it to say I have it. I’m already mad enough that ill never get the founders… and the alpha cards…[/quote]

woah woah woah alpha cards? holy shit i knew about founders cards wtf are alpha cards? can you link me maybe? Also i like collection too, but im so new to the game. 470 hours in and im only level 23. Im really bad at this game. one cobalt. I had two, one for vassili and one for stoker, i traded them in for a BLISHLOK fletcher. this pissed me off enough. CW and ReV cards for sawbones, obs for phoenix a gold for fletcher and phantom and a silver for aimee and thats ALL. 470 hours in. I feel like i do have terrible luck but every single fletcher card i have is a blishlok loadout and thats because of rng (except the a31 i bought)


(MTLMortis) #377

One thing you’re not tracking is regular case drops as well.

What if it’s handing you a regular case instead of a special?

After seeing all of this I’m glad I still have hundreds of thousands of credits not wasted on this seeming cock up.


(DarkMatterMatt) #378

[quote=“MTLMortis;168391”]One thing you’re not tracking is regular case drops as well.
What if it’s handing you a regular case instead of a special?
[/quote]
If the entrire community thinks something’s wrong (be it a bug or false advertising (lying)); maybe it is?


(Jostabeere) #379

[quote=“Randomdeath;168328”]

Im friends with a few who MIGHT but im not 100% sure. Jostabeere, SirMurder (his steam is RainFrom) and [fX]PixelPopper.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/PixelPopper/

I can not find MisterMurder, i suggest you PM him on the forums[/quote]

Can you not link other players informations without asking them?
I can do it by myself if an official and not someone from the playerbase asks me to do so.


(Jesus) #380

[quote=“DarkMatterMatt;168394”][quote=“MTLMortis;168391”]One thing you’re not tracking is regular case drops as well.
What if it’s handing you a regular case instead of a special?
[/quote]
If the entrire community thinks something’s wrong (be it a bug or false advertising (lying)); maybe it is?
[/quote]

the entrire community must be wrong :trollface: