Brink to Appear at E3 2010

(Apples) #61

E3 will prolly show a console version simply cuz the market is larger on consoles, Dont you guy s still havent figured out that the gaming world is all bout monies now? WAKE UP!

Peace

(ultraddtd) #62

Ok. I guess I’m not a gamer because I play on a console.

But yes, the market has moved more towards console gaming and it is ridiculous for a company not to take advantage of that. More money means more capital to make another game, does it not? The real problem with multiplatform releases arises when a dev creates a game for a specific platform then creates some sub-par ports to the rest. The biggest problem this causes is that if a dev has consoles in mind then ports it over to the PC those gamers get something well below the standard they’re accustomed too, and that’s not fair for the PC gamer (COD MW2 as an example).

Thankfully, more and more devs are ditching ports for side-by-side development across the board which usually means each version takes full advantage of their platforms potential. Thus a PC version of, let’s say Brink, won’t suffer the limitations the 360 version has.

And on the subject of limitations on consoles, well, I believe a lot of those exist more because the developers don’t think the console gamers want the in depth options PC gamers get. Personally, I would love to be able to map my controller how I see fit and I see no reason why that option can’t exist.

(DarkangelUK) #63

ultraddtd I agree with what you say, it’s the small minded fools that don’t seem to realize that creating games costs money. I believe time, man power and costs are verging on the same scale as Hollywood movies these days, and it makes sense to aim your product at the most lucrative market… not the little whiney minority that won’t appreciate what they’re given any way. The loud PC players aren’t gamers, they’re spoiled brats that think they deserve something that they shouldn’t… and it’s this attitude that makes devs care less and less about them. We’d all be happier if they’d bugger off… especially the one’s that say they won’t even buy the game :rolleyes: Obvious trolls are obvious.

(signofzeta) #64

Do you think the fate of wolfenstein was because of the developers or was it because of the RTCW fanbase?

Games that are specifically geared towards the PC market are becoming less and less, and that is a shame. I am not one to buy every game of the franchise, and sometimes people must let go of certain franchises.

The example with the Wolfenstein failure is that, people there are bragging on how much RTCW is better, and that they will continue to play it. I checked RTCW myself, and RTCW in 2009 was as dead as Wolfenstein was. So, yeah. They never were true RTCW fans.

But me, I don’t want to spend any more cash on newer games, when I know that older games online are still supported. If the PC gamers find that they are getting console ports, there are a whole list of older games out there. I don’t get why PC people have an obligation to play newer games, spend money on it, and hate it, even after they hated it before release because it was a console port.

(DarkangelUK) #65

Wolfenstein had no luck from anywhere… half the MP dev team were dropped, Endrent didn’t have the time to do what was needed, and there wasn’t anything for the fanbase to feedback on, and the limited beta that was in place didn’t have time nor the inclination to listen to the proper feedback given. It takes time to go through the piles of mince and spew to get to the decent feedback, and there just wasn’t the time. There’s no single area to blame for it’s failure (or limited to success if you will, some people did like it).

(signofzeta) #66

What exactly defines a PC game? Is it a game that is played on a PC, or is it a game where you have to have computer knowledge to play?

Is PC game defined as a game where you have to type commands to optimize the game? Like in game consoles or through command line parameters, where any other average gamer need to go to forums to accomplish?

Are console to PC ports games, who’s menu infrastructure, make it so that any n00b at computers know how to utilize?

Is gamer friendly now known as dumbed down?

(DarkangelUK) #67

Is that a general question or an assumption that I differentiated PC gamers and console gamers? Apples is the one that claims only PC players are gamers… so I think he’s the best one to answer those questions.

(signofzeta) #68

no, it was general question. Because from what I saw, when people see simplified menu infrastructure, they automatically say it is a PC port from a console. Wolfenstein’s menus are simple, and didn’t offer many options.

Another thing is, back in the 90’s, the consoles were always inferior to the PC in power, but today it is different. To have a PC to exceed the power of a console ($300) today, would have to cost like more than $2000. The computer I bought was more that $1000. I know of no PC with graphics better than a PS3 costing less than $300.

I also see many console ports from PC, like wolfenstein and quake 4, are 1 for 1 port. Doom 3, levels were stripped, and windows became walls in the xbox port, because the xbox at the time wasn’t as powerful as PCs at that time.

Doom on the snes was also stripped down of its graphics.

Also console gamers are only console gamers because they didn’t want to deal with all the problems that PCs have, like gfx cards, system requirements, and stuff like that.

So from that, my question was, when PC games become more gamer friendly, or console like, are they only angry at the turn of events because they don’t have any more reason to gloat that they know more about computers than the average console gamer? An example would be “I know how to run this with high quality graphics, while you have a crappy console port”.

Can we also assume that all PC gamers, or at least those who builds their PCs, and optimizes their game, actually work with real computers in their profession? While all the Doctors and Lawyers are console gamers, or non-gamer?

(AnthonyDa) #69

Nice off topic, where are moderators when you need them ? :rolleyes:

(DarkangelUK) #70

It’s called progression, try it… it’s awesome! :smiley:

(AnthonyDa) #71

It’s called “gives an infraction” when you do the same thing on others thread… :confused:
And yet, still no words about which version(s) will be showed.

(DarkangelUK) #72

I do apologize my brain trust friend, but you make no sense. Infractions for the discussion taking a natural deviation? You give the mods no credit :confused:

(Apples) #73

I stopped to care about random infractions here anyway, as some ppl weirdly get more than others…

PC players arent brat, but after trying to give advice / feedbacks for years I start to get bored as NO ONE will listen anyway, they want to sell more copies, period. I admit it’s what any company should aim for in this market, but its not what I think its the best to develop any product. Now when ppl claim they are proud of the PC community for w:et, and then literaly dont care about any concern the said pc community expressed for Brink, its becoming obvious to me that they dont really give a crap. Now you can call me a troll if you want, I rather think I’ve enuff bawls to say what I want to say, if mods of this forum dont want me around, its as easy as a straight ban.

Now if you cant take a breath and admit that more and more games are crappy console port nowadays, that consoles have infinitly less options than pc (such as mod, gameplay options etc) and that many of console gamers are halo happy kiddies, then you are in denial there. I’m bored anyway so you can continue to insult me and denying the obvious, its not like I care the ones of your like anymore…

Peace

(AnthonyDa) #74

Also, PC market is a lot more bigger than PS3&XBOX, use another & less generic word/expression or you are wrong.

(DarkangelUK) #75

Care to elaborate on how you’ve come to that random conclusion?

(AnthonyDa) #76

CBA writing a wall full of words atm. But take a game running on low configuration (ex : plant VS zombie), then I think that the number of PC on the world capable of running those kind of game is MUCH MUCH bigger than xbox & PS3.

edit : works for CS too, for example, and Wow.

(DarkangelUK) #77

Right ok… everyone has an asshole, therefore everyone must be having anal sex because they can… absolutely nothing to do with if they want to. I see your logic there

(BioSnark) #78

Srsly. I would just like to also see how the gameplay mechanics work on a mouse & keyboard (in terms of SMART nav, shots per kill, etc.) because it’s the control scheme I’m using. Why does the discussion become “either/or”? Can Bethesda not afford each platform or booth space?

platform / console wars = meh.

(signofzeta) #79

BYOK+M lol.

(AnthonyDa) #80

Toilet paper market > sheet of paper market then :smiley: