Brink Q&A

[AnthonyDa]

I’m only against ‘trick-planting’ ie trying to hide a charge from sight. That was what the original discussion started on.

It wasn’t.

[tokamak]

Here’s the post that started the discussion.

BRINK atm seems more noobfriendly than any previous SD game. (for example, you can’t trickplant on obj, integrated wallhack, less class to play, and so on).

Yes, but what we are trying to say is that aside from trick planting, the multi-plant anywhere system works well. There is absolutely no reason to confine objectives to a single spot and only being allowed to have one person complete them. That is what the discussion turned into, although I am fairly sure the majority likes it the way it was.

First of all, it’s 8vs8, say you balanced the classes out, it would lead to having two soldiers, and therefore two charges in play, not three or four like in QW. That already diminishes the idea behind multiple charges and makes the whole objection less relevant.

In the end having one fixed spot makes everything far more clear. Nobody has to look anywhere and it puts the focus back on fighting over the objective instead of searching for it.

[INF3RN0]

By trickplanting, i mean the possibility to plant everywhere on the objective (like etqw, you have to plant ON the obj, not next to it)

Anthony obviously is not using the term “trick plant” in the correct context.

One place to plant adds DEPTH by making it necessary to defend the plant instead of hiding it. If you hide it you can rely on players not being able to find it in time so you can just run or die after the plant.

Hiding the charge defeats the entire point of the planting objective, which is reversing roles for a short while and making the attackers defend a certain point.

So your saying having a single spot to plant justifies depth because they can’t trick plant?

The point still stands though. It’s an unfair towards the defenders. Playing ‘hide the sausage’ doesn’t contribute to tactical insight or combat effectiveness, it’s quite cheap actually.

Your against trick planting, ok.

Nothing wrong with several charges, they’re unlikely anyway in an 8vs8 environment.

Your don’t mind multi-planting, ok.

A large bombing spots where the plants can easily be seen (like the shield generator for example) is something completely different than being able to place bombs behind panels, on top of things, underneath etc.

So your on the same page as those of us who think multi-planting and free-planting is ok, but are more skeptical of trick plants.

[QUOTE=tokamak;213182]
First of all, it’s 8vs8, say you balanced the classes out, it would lead to having two soldiers, and therefore two charges in play, not three or four like in QW. That already diminishes the idea behind multiple charges and makes the whole objection less relevant. .[/QUOTE]

So in conclusion you don’t mind multi-plants or free-plants, but you do mind, but it’s not going to matter much anyways. Somehow being able to plant on the OBJECTIVE, but more than once and freely on a fixed surface, takes away from the OBJECTIVE. And being able to STRATEGICALLY plant a charge on a specific side of an objective that might allow for more coverage (not trick plants), takes away from the STRATEGIC elements of the game? I might just be as confused as you are on this one…

[tokamak]

I have a problem with trickplanting, I don’t have a problem with free plants and multi plants, multi plants will be less relevant in Brink anyway, all in all I think the fixed plant is better for it means less effort on trivial matters, means more effort on the actual game.

How is that confusing?

[INF3RN0]

[QUOTE=tokamak;213193]I have a problem with trickplanting, I don’t have a problem with free plants and multi plants, multi plants will be less relevant in Brink anyway, all in all I think the fixed plant is better for it means less effort on trivial matters, means more effort on the actual game.

How is that confusing?[/QUOTE]

It appeared that you were for and against it multiple times, and kept using trick planting and free/multi-planting like they were the same thing. I am still not sure what you mean by effort on trivial matters, but it seems like your bent on using the unintentional faults of a system in order to condemn the whole thing. If you agreed with what people were saying about how the concept was not a bad idea in QW, then it might have just been easier to say so .

[Cankor]

Is it possible the “plant” is more of an animation, similar to COD4, and you can do it from any side? Could be the same with diffuse maybe. Can’t remember what the demo vid showed, but it could still be an animation even if it looked like a plant.

[3Suns]

OT

Can we match different body weights with different classes? e.g., have a “heavy” operative or medic, or a slim and fast soldier, etc. etc.

[Cankor]

[QUOTE=3Suns;213236]OT

Can we match different body weights with different classes? e.g., have a “heavy” operative or medic, or a slim and fast soldier, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]

yes, they said your body type doesn’t limit what class you can play, it limits what weapons you can carry, and how much damage you can take, and how fast you can move. In other words, it makes sense.

[3Suns]

yes, they said your body type doesn’t limit what class you can play, it limits what weapons you can carry, and how much damage you can take, and how fast you can move. In other words, it makes sense.

Awesome opposum! Thanks, Cankor!

[signofzeta]

yes, they said your body type doesn’t limit what class you can play, it limits what weapons you can carry, and how much damage you can take, and how fast you can move. In other words, it makes sense.

I have seen somewhere that the heavy class is an unlockable class, and you only start with thin and medium builds at first. Don’t know if this is officially true or not.

[MILFandCookies]

I have seen somewhere that the heavy class is an unlockable class, and you only start with thin and medium builds at first. Don’t know if this is officially true or not.

The heavy bodytype is unlockable.
You have access to all classes.

[H0RSE]

I didn’t know it was unlockable. I thought they were all available from the start. I hope it is fairly easy to unlock (easy as in time consuming, not actual skill)

[Nail]

afaik, all body types and classes are available from the start

[MILFandCookies]

Yep I thought that too, until I saw this really cool interview

[tokamak]

You’ve got to be kidding me. At what point does Radho say that?

[MILFandCookies]

Just before he discusses the link between autism and being a forum hero.

[tokamak]

In other words, you have no idea and resort to uncalled for comments.

[Senyin]

At 19:29 Bongoboy mentioned it.
Around 18:08 it’s also mentioned that everyone starts out as a medium type,
which implies the skinny type is an unlock too.

At 15:25 the whole Character Customization segment starts.

[tokamak]

Thanks!

What an incredibly weird decision, how does that work with selecting your body type at the start of the game, or is the idea of it being a permanent choice completely out of the window now?

[Chris2]

Just before he discusses the link between autism and being a forum hero.

nearly spat out my dinner!