Brink feature for competitive game

(el1as) #1

hi, i m happy to see SD again ready to release a great game, i played etqw with my team and saw its strengths and weaknesses
i really hope that Brink could be a real new and long lasting ET, widely played, and to reach this its support for competitive gaming is really important, it is a great mean of promoting

this cannot be now a suggestion, it is too late, it is a question IF these feature are included in the game since the realease or within the first patch

*Spectator mode - ability to spectate a player ingame. (useful for cheating prevention)
*Demo recorder - ability to record a player or themselves ingame. (This can be server-side or client-side your choice for what’s best)
*Mod Tools - This is needed for competitive gaming.
*Dedicated Server Files - Needed for us to host servers.
*local servers - needed for lan game
*unranked server with password - needed to allow matches

i m sceptical, dedicated server files promote piracy, mod tools is no more a prioritity for the recent games (bc2, codbo etc)

so anybody could answer my questions? are there SD developers?

(Diablo85) #2

These questions have been asked before in the past months and never recieved an answer from Splash Damage.

In my opinion that can mean two things. Either Splash Damage is still working on these features and they don’t know yet which features will make the release and which features won’t. Or it can mean these features won’t be in the game (apart from having dedicated servers in some way) and they are keeping things quiet because they don’t want their PC userbase to start an uproar before the release of the game

(JeP) #3

… or they simply don’t want to communicate about that for now.

(Diablo85) #4

Without reason for not communicating? You do know that having those features in BRINK would be a huge selling point? Many PC gamers are dieing to play a new FPS game with all those features. The past few years all we’ve gotten are crappy console FPS ports. It makes no sense from a marketing perspective they don’t want to communicate about selling points like that that for now, without a reason behind it. Especially since the release is of BRINK is near.

(coolstory) #5

spectate/demo are basic things that should be there from the start in any pc game.

(JeP) #6

I don’t know that well how is going a marketing/communication campaign, but really few are the big developers that have talked about specific points like that before, I don’t see the silence of SD on that kind of things as especially frightening.

Call me an optimistic, SD’s fanboy or what, but I’ve still some good faith in these guys (and probably girls).

(Diablo85) #7

[QUOTE=JeP;277182]I don’t know that well how is going a marketing/communication campaign, but really few are the big developers that have talked about specific points like that before, I don’t see the silence of SD on that kind of things as especially frightening.

Call me an optimistic, SD’s fanboy or what, but I’ve still some good faith in these guys (and probably girls).[/QUOTE]

I hope you’re right. I’m just a bit worried since Splash Damage are handeling things alot different then they did with ET:QW. Before the release of ET:QW they where alot more open about the features it would and would not contain. We even heard before releas they would at a TV feature in a later patch. I really liked that direct and open communication from the developer. Shame it’s gone.

(JeP) #8

Oh I see. Sadly, the gaming world has changed a lot since, and it’s more… “professionnal”.

(obliviondoll) #9

I’m hoping for this part to be the reason.

(DonkeyDong) #10

lol… not for badcompany!!! faiiilll company. but still fun to play

(DonkeyDong) #11

ya,… totally agree. right now i hate the whole ‘haha, we got your money, now play the crap we’ve left you with’ mentality. granted that’s not what they want to do, but it’s just so annoying.

(DonkeyDong) #12

TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS

You will win the community if you put in tv servers like quake wars. nothing more fun after playing for hours to jump in and watch in spectator mode any player playing a match and have someone ‘like greased scottsman and mattcom’ shoutcasting in all their glory… ohhh quake wars… how i miss thee.

my most favorite moment… taking out the whole team in my lovable huggable hog @ 1:05:30.

(el1as) #13

yes you are right, i noticed that SD’s approach is very different compared to ETQW one
starting from the choice to not do a beta or a demo, this time they want to keep a “distance” from players, there is no direct link, maybe this is a commercial choice to avoid past errors or it is their new way of game production

btw i suppose they know that ETQW semifail was due to the general feeling of the game, too much spam and a some technical problem with drops of fps, this game should be much better, less players, no vehicles and complicated deployables, no mega texture and so on

SD developers are players too, i suppose they know the importance of each feature i stated above
BC2 was delivered without any of those features, but it is still competitive played

(Herandar) #14

[QUOTE=el1as;277228]yes you are right, i noticed that SD’s approach is very different compared to ETQW one
starting from the choice to not do a beta or a demo, this time they want to keep a “distance” from players, there is no direct link, maybe this is a commercial choice to avoid past errors or it is their new way of game production[/QUOTE]

Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with Bethesda with the money and calling all of the shots??? No, I guess this is all on Splash Damage. :rolleyes:

(Jess Alon) #15

Who’s to say that SD couldn’t just slip these features under the door to the PC market? Make the tools available for use. And if it works out and they are popular maybe they could gain formal support under the publisher. Sometimes the developer is wearing golden handcuffs.

(MF Maou) #16

The dog is as much to blame as the master that holds its leash.

(SuperWaz) #17

Totally agree with the OP. Bethesda and Splash Damage appear to be being deliberately vague towards the PC questions as far as I can see, and this doesn’t bode well for frustrated competitive PC gamers.

Devs, I implore you to answer the OP’s points, or at least tell us why you can’t answer them.

And while you’re doing that, if you wouldn’t mind please explain how the PC servers/listen servers/p2p/whatever is going to work with regards to playing online. Would appreciate hearing how that’s going to work if you don’t mind. :smiley:

In this instance silence is definitely not golden. Spill the beans, guys, please?

(Cankor) #18

[QUOTE=DonkeyDong;277217]TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS TV SERVERS

You will win the community if you put in tv servers like quake wars. nothing more fun after playing for hours to jump in and watch in spectator mode any player playing a match and have someone ‘like greased scottsman and mattcom’ shoutcasting in all their glory… ohhh quake wars… how i miss thee.

my most favorite moment… taking out the whole team in my lovable huggable hog @ 1:05:30.

wow, I didn’t know they had all those VOD’s on youtube. They need to add some tags or something I guess.

(Herandar) #19

How do you figure that? It’s pithy, but meaningless and/or just ignorant. Bethesda says ‘Don’t reveal any details on Brink without running it by our PR guys first.’ The PR guys say don’t release PC info. You’d rather they breach their contract and lose money to give trivial details that you will find out soon enough anyway?

How obnoxiously entitled of you! You know that Bethesda lurks the forum, yeah? You probably never even noticed the forum members with red names before, I’m guessing. I’m not saying that they are spying on Splash Damage or that they suspect anything untoward will happen. But it is Bethesda’s money that is funding this game, and they have total control over the public presentation of it. If they wanted a total blackout on media coverage, they are totally entitled to it. Tough s#!t for all of us consumers.

(Cankor) #20

I suspect there’s a blackout on all things related to dedicated servers, if only because they are still deciding if they are going to release the files to all, only to certain server host companies, or only to a single host company. It makes sense to me that they won’t say anything about that part until they have made a final decision.

Also, there could be other things in the works which are being handled (developed) directly by Bethesda and not SD, things like web page tie-ins (possibly even including some kind of replay feature). If SD wasn’t directly involved in the development of that they wouldn’t be able to comment on it, and it could be part of a black out on server related thingsn anyway.

SD is one of the few developers who actually answer at least some of the questions posted in their forums.

Be patient and happy for what they have given us.