[QUOTE=its al bout security;340816]pcs don’t have pinpoint accuracy like you seem to say they do. look at cod quick scoping, we can set our sensitivity just as high as you can.
i am really good at aiming, maybe you played cosole and you couldnt do it so you think that its not possible but its pretty simple[/QUOTE]
Yes, that’s why PC players had to be artificially gimped in Shadowrun, because consoles are so much better at precision aim. xD
[QUOTE=its al bout security;340816]pcs don’t have pinpoint accuracy like you seem to say they do. look at cod quick scoping, we can set our sensitivity just as high as you can.
i am really good at aiming, maybe you played cosole and you couldnt do it so you think that its not possible but its pretty simple[/QUOTE]
You do realize that setting sensitivity high means nothing, correct? Also have you ever played Counter-Strike or QUAKE? If not, you should and then come back and tell us all how PCs can’t be as precise as I say they are.
Actually I’m not that bad at consoles after I have a few games of CoD and get back into the idea of having to use my thumbs to aim instead of using my palm and wrist.
[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;340867]You do realize that setting sensitivity high means nothing, correct? Also have you ever played Counter-Strike or QUAKE? If not, you should and then come back and tell us all how PCs can’t be as precise as I say they are.
Actually I’m not that bad at consoles after I have a few games of CoD and get back into the idea of having to use my thumbs to aim instead of using my palm and wrist.[/QUOTE]
i have trained thumbs you have trained wrists big deal?
PC frags
Note the head tracking possible with mouse, console players struggle to just keep aim on target nevermind on a smaller bodypart.
Console players will never be as accurate as PC players, hence why they have things like gravity wells and aim assist on consoles to help them feel better about themselves.
[QUOTE=Apoc;340877]PC frags
Note the head tracking possible with mouse, console players struggle to just keep aim on target nevermind on a smaller bodypart.
Console players will never be as accurate as PC players, hence why they have things like gravity wells and aim assist on consoles to help them feel better about themselves.[/QUOTE]
so you think. i dont need aim assist
forget it you dot understand no matter the platform i would destroy you
You can not be as precise with your thumb as YOU can be with your arm/wrist/hand. You might be able to twitch aim similar to a pc player with a lot more practice… but you are physically incapable of having the tracking a mouse provides vs a thumbstick.
Why do you think FPS players stopped using trackballs years ago… at least the ones I know of. I would be surprised to see anybody wanting precision using a trackball.
Did you ever read the news release that Microsoft did trial crossplatform gaming with Xbox and PC players? They took high level xbox gamers and pitted them against mediocre PC players… and the xbox users still got their asses handed to them, so MS pulled the plug on cross platform play to save embarrassment.
According to the Founder of Voodoo PC (now CTO of HP’s gaming business) Rahul Sood, the idea was tested at MS, but reliable sources said that the PC players beat the console gamers consistently.
Not because the PC players were superior gamers, but mainly due to the control mechanism of the keyboard and mouse versus the Xbox controller. Certainly when it comes to first-person shooters, there’s no way a controller stick can match the accuracy and speed of the flick of a mouse.
Indeed, Sood says they pitted excellent console players against mediocre PC guys, and those on the PC didn’t just beat but “destroyed” their console brethren.
Sood says on his blog: “The console players got destroyed every time. So much so that it would be embarrassing to the Xbox team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative. Is this why the project was killed who knows, but I’d love to hear from anyone involved – what happened?”
No surprise there… PC gamers can transition to the 360 as I’ve done it before, but can’t say the same for 360 players transitioning to the PC. 360 users can’t aim without aim assist 
Can you buy a mouse/buttons combo controller for the 360? I am SHOCKING with twin sticks…
Never tried it, but youtube has some positive looking videos on Xim2/3… lets you connect a kb/m to the 360. Pretty expensive though.
Works well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnZvrjv1_JI&feature=related
[QUOTE=DarkangelUK;340909]Never tried it, but youtube has some positive looking videos on Xim2/3… lets you connect a kb/m to the 360. Pretty expensive though.
Works well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnZvrjv1_JI&feature=related[/QUOTE]
XIM 2 and 3 are both trash. Super floppy/floaty feel regardless how much you tweak the things. Some people seem to think its god’s gift but anyone who is half decent on the PC would quickly be very disappointed in the way the XIM junk feels.
In my experience, the opposite is true - I am much more precise and accurate with a mouse.
i do believe that aiming with a mouse > aiming with a pad
but wasn’t that article fake? I think I read that few days after it was published
ut3 ps3 can cross stix vs mouse. If you think stix are superior or just comparable, glhf.
I don’t believe it has a name yet but just like with Godwin’s law where all discussions eventually involve Hitler and the Holocaust, most discussions on this forum eventually degrade to pc vs console arguments.
There, I compared the two. Politics!
a lot of PC players however tend to make the mistake that somehow they are better at ‘playing’ just because the controller is inferior.
You could try playing an FPS, doom 1 style, just keyboard and separate keys for ‘looking up/down’ and im pretty sure a console controller would beat that.
So do not go from ‘mouse>gamepad’ to ‘PC skill > console skill’.
PC games are definitely faster, but that could leave other types of skill more important in console version of the game.
Bottom line is that console player cannot transmit his own experience into PC playstyle, and vice versa