Brink 2 is likely

(Thundermuffin) #81

Your whole first paragraph is kind of pointless as it’s talking about using the extra two-ish years to implement features and finish the game; they weren’t finishing the game, they said the game was finished. We know differently now, of course, but at the time they said it was done and this was just giving it the SD polish. I would understand why the game sucks so much if they had said, “hey we obviously can’t do what we hyped up for 3+ years and we’re trying to save face with the mainstream crowd.” They had since ET:QW was released to finish this game so that gives them approximately five years to make this game and this is what we got even after all that “extra polishing” time.

Again, what polish? I don’t see polish in this game as I still got horrible frame rates last time I played when compared to prettier games such as Crysis 2, the guns still aren’t shooting straight or working like SD acted like they would, people’s sound still drops off, etc. Even if they were only able to finish say 50% of the game they wanted to, they would at least have a solid base for a game and would be able to polish up the loose ends. The core gameplay sucks and it shows that it was never polished just by the way a dignitas player could potentially be killed by some random guy who’s never played anything but pubs in his life and there’s nothing the digi player could do about it, since the gameplay is so unrefined and raw (and that isn’t a good thing in this case).

(Azure19) #82

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;379573]Your whole first paragraph is kind of pointless as it’s talking about using the extra two-ish years to implement features and finish the game; they weren’t finishing the game, they said the game was finished. We know differently now, of course, but at the time they said it was done and this was just giving it the SD polish. I would understand why the game sucks so much if they had said, “hey we obviously can’t do what we hyped up for 3+ years and we’re trying to save face with the mainstream crowd.” They had since ET:QW was released to finish this game so that gives them approximately five years to make this game and this is what we got even after all that “extra polishing” time.

Again, what polish? I don’t see polish in this game as I still got horrible frame rates last time I played when compared to prettier games such as Crysis 2, the guns still aren’t shooting straight or working like SD acted like they would, people’s sound still drops off, etc. Even if they were only able to finish say 50% of the game they wanted to, they would at least have a solid base for a game and would be able to polish up the loose ends. The core gameplay sucks and it shows that it was never polished just by the way a dignitas player could potentially be killed by some random guy who’s never played anything but pubs in his life and there’s nothing the digi player could do about it, since the gameplay is so unrefined and raw (and that isn’t a good thing in this case).[/QUOTE]Let me tell you something, if any thread here on the internet somehow manages to get a least a mediocre amount of views, idiot all over the internet will come to it for god only knows what reason only to f*** themselves. Their stupidity (Wolf Nemesis is fine) is unbelievable. You are one of them. Where’s Badman when you need him, maybe he’s… on a date.

(SockDog) #83

As someone who’s frequently argued to the mountains of madness and back with Tok I can happily say he can be a stubborn and opinionated person but far from a troll and most definitely not stupid. Of course you wouldn’t know that having walked right in here with an attitude and a paper thin sensitivity.

[QUOTE=H0RSE;379570]Is an extra year or two not enough time? Well, it depends what resources you have at your disposal. If I have a team of over 500 people working on a project and near endless funding, an extra year or two would be a good length of time to impement everything and have time for fine tuning and polish. In SD’s case, if you have less than 100 people, maybe a litle over and limited funds, a year or two really isn’t that long. My point is, it wasn’t so much that they didn’t have enough time to properly complete the game or even that they wasted that time or worked to slowly, but that they didn’t have enough time based on the resources they had available.

The fact that they said they said they needed the time for polish, could simply mean that they (or Bethesda) decided they were finished with the game based on what they were able to accomplish, again, with the available resources, rather than saying they were working on polish for a game that had no time constraints, release windows, lack of manpower or budgets to worry about.[/QUOTE]

What a huge bull****, beat around the bush, excuse that is. They said they needed a year to polish, your answer is a year of SD polish is equal to a month of Valve polish and we should be happy with that. Ultimately a year ago the game clearly wasn’t ready, it didn’t need polish it needed a fricken UI for a start and probably a ton of other stuff and lets not get into the PC version basically being aborted out of the door.

I wasn’t offered the game at a lower retail price because it was unfinished, untested and unpolished, I didn’t see a sticker on the packaging stating “made by a smaller than usual dev team, please excuse the lower than normal quality”.

To be clear again, I’m a big supporter of SD, I’m not out to bash them for the sake of it but neither am I going to defend them out of some pointless blind loyalty. I’ll pay them for making games if they make games I want to pay for, in Brink they failed at that and no number of weak excuses is going change that. Right now it would actually be better if they’d just admit they bit off more than they could chew and the game suffered because of it, acting like it’s our expectations as customers that are at fault irks me to no end.

(Thundermuffin) #84

Please, enlighten me on how tok and I are stupid. We’re opinionated, yes, but I expect my games to be of great quality when I drop my money on them. I buy maybe 3 to 6 games a year since I play mostly MP shooters. I don’t like buying a game and then end up having it sit in my Steam library for the rest of my life.

I bought a 50$ product and no where on it does it say anything about SD being a development studio with a lower than usual amount of programmers/artists/UI designers/etc. I wouldn’t care if it was a 1 man studio, if you advertise a triple A product I better get a triple A product. Using the amount of people who work for you as a reason for your failure is no excuse.

Maybe you can show me all of this polish in Brink, because I bet all of the old ET players could find way, way more in their previous games. I really like SD, I truly do and wish them the best, but it isn’t my fault this game was a failure when compared to their other games. It made money, sure, but where are all of those people who paid for this game now? They obviously aren’t on the PC game.

(BioSnark) #85

That claim that they were not only finished but finished ahead of schedule and up for an early release was laughable for anyone playing on launch with no-sound maps, but laughable in an extremely sad and painful way to the SD fans who actually wanted the game to succeed. Hell, I had a lot more fun with Brink than I was expecting when it still worked and friends still played it. I would have liked nothing better than to see Splash Damage, or any mod team turned pro, eating cod right now, even if they had had to engineer a gmo cod to do so.

(Azure19) #86

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;379576]Please, enlighten me on how tok and I are stupid. We’re opinionated, yes, but I expect my games to be of great quality when I drop my money on them. I buy maybe 3 to 6 games a year since I play mostly MP shooters. I don’t like buying a game and then end up having it sit in my Steam library for the rest of my life.

I bought a 50$ product and no where on it does it say anything about SD being a development studio with a lower than usual amount of programmers/artists/UI designers/etc. I wouldn’t care if it was a 1 man studio, if you advertise a triple A product I better get a triple A product. Using the amount of people who work for you as a reason for your failure is no excuse.

Maybe you can show me all of this polish in Brink, because I bet all of the old ET players could find way, way more in their previous games. I really like SD, I truly do and wish them the best, but it isn’t my fault this game was a failure when compared to their other games. It made money, sure, but where are all of those people who paid for this game now? They obviously aren’t on the PC game.[/QUOTE]Let’s just say the answers right in front of you.

(Azure19) #87

[QUOTE=SockDog;379575]As someone who’s frequently argued to the mountains of madness and back with Tok I can happily say he can be a stubborn and opinionated person but far from a troll and most definitely not stupid. Of course you wouldn’t know that having walked right in here with an attitude and a paper thin sensitivity.

What a huge bull****, beat around the bush, excuse that is. They said they needed a year to polish, your answer is a year of SD polish is equal to a month of Valve polish and we should be happy with that. Ultimately a year ago the game clearly wasn’t ready, it didn’t need polish it needed a fricken UI for a start and probably a ton of other stuff and lets not get into the PC version basically being aborted out of the door.

I wasn’t offered the game at a lower retail price because it was unfinished, untested and unpolished, I didn’t see a sticker on the packaging stating “made by a smaller than usual dev team, please excuse the lower than normal quality”.

To be clear again, I’m a big supporter of SD, I’m not out to bash them for the sake of it but neither am I going to defend them out of some pointless blind loyalty. I’ll pay them for making games if they make games I want to pay for, in Brink they failed at that and no number of weak excuses is going change that. Right now it would actually be better if they’d just admit they bit off more than they could chew and the game suffered because of it, acting like it’s our expectations as customers that are at fault irks me to no end.[/QUOTE]I honestly get your statement and I agree with it thank you.

(Thundermuffin) #88

Hahaha, so in other words you can’t come up with anything. :slight_smile: That’s fine, as I’m sure you’d just call whatever I said afterwards stupid as well, as obviously no one can hate this game on this forum. No wonder the majority of the people who were here when ETQW/ET were popular are gone.

(Crytiqal) #89

Obviously tokamak has made over 6800 troll posts

Get real buddy, the only troll on this forum board now is wolfnemesis. Every thread he comes in he states 1 or 2 sentences about how great BRINK is or how awesome BRINK 2 will be, but is incapable of reasoning or discussing and when he pointed on the facts he just trolls some more

By not giving examples yourself you are making yourself look as a troll aswell

Most people criticizing BRINK now, are the same people SD asked community feedback from during development years before release of the game. Ofcourse we are disappointed when it turns out that they didn’t took one word of advise of the years of feedback from loyal fans who played their previous games for YEARS, (that is more then 8). All this time when the community gave suggestions down the drain and now the game has bombed.

So when peopl come in here talking **** about how we are not allowed to not like the game and should just deal with it is just ignorant.

(montheponies) #90

That’s rather short sighted. Without significant player numbers there’s unlikely to be any further development - what incentive would Bethesda have for funding it? Which inevitably will lead to player numbers dropping to a point where you/I won’t have folk to play with… and just to be clear I like the game, and have my hopes on the weapon patch removing my one big gripe.

(wolfnemesis75) #91

[QUOTE=Crytiqal;379608]Blah Blah Blah Wolfnemesis this and that[/QUOTE]You’re just bitter. I am not. I had a blast playing Brink all summer, what do you want me to say? I had fun playing. Also, I have critiqued the game and offered suggestions, so that makes most of your statement unfounded. Sure, your buddies will come to your rescue and defend you, but it don’t make you right, just part of a clique. My experience playing Brink obviously was not similar to yours. The thread says Brink 2 is likely. I certainly hope so and feel that it sounds like a cool idea to me. I enjoy posting on this forum because I want to be part of a community that shares an interest in the game, so stop trying to make it seem like only you belong. We all have to listen to your constant bashing. Yes, that’s what it is.

Its one thing to be constructive, but when you’re bringing up my name in every post you make now, I don’t see how you’re being in any way constructive. If you think you are, then you are very confused. Attacking someone who likes the game is what makes you a troll. I am not attacking you. Do you see me mention you in every single post I make? Nope. I just discuss what I like about the game. If that’s a problem for you, don’t read my posts. Its not gonna affect me one way or the other. Mostly you’re bitter, because there are other opinions that you don’t agree with. Sorry, but that’s the nature of the beast here. You aren’t gonna like what I say if I like the game and you don’t.

(tokamak) #92

You take requests? How about nothing?

(Azure19) #93

[QUOTE=tokamak;379620]You take requests? How about nothing?[/QUOTE]You click this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

(Azure19) #94

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;379586]Hahaha, so in other words you can’t come up with anything. :slight_smile: That’s fine, as I’m sure you’d just call whatever I said afterwards stupid as well, as obviously no one can hate this game on this forum. No wonder the majority of the people who were here when ETQW/ET were popular are gone.[/QUOTE]So says the ignorant one.

(Azure19) #95

I’m fairly surprised to see that none of the folks at Splash Damage have posted on this thread even though it’s popular. Of coarse they must be very busy though.

(BioSnark) #96

Brink should have had a higher age restriction.

(tokamak) #97

I’m always baffled how the Wolfnem derails are allowed to continue for so long before being locked.

(wolfnemesis75) #98

[QUOTE=tokamak;379626]I’m always baffled how the Wolfnem derails are allowed to continue for so long before being locked.[/QUOTE]How did I derail the thread? Just give up! Nothing I said should bother you if you are secure in your gaming view. Just let it roll off your back like water down a duck’s back.

(tokamak) #99

In a way it’s not even about you. It’s about the rest of the forum trying to set up a dialogue with you while you’ve made it very clear that you’re not interested in any discussion. Opposing views are awesome if they come with arguments, you already stated that you’re not interested in arguments, you like the game and you feel the need to point that out without any further elaboration in every single thread where sincere discussion is taking place.

You’re creating white noise in a place where we’ve had some awesome and respectful discussions. And I think it’s a shame everyone gladly caters to this attention whoring of you.

(wolfnemesis75) #100

[QUOTE=tokamak;379633]In a way it’s not even about you. It’s about the rest of the forum trying to set up a dialogue with you while you’ve made it very clear that you’re not interested in any discussion. Opposing views are awesome if they come with arguments, you already stated that you’re not interested in arguments, you like the game and you feel the need to point that out without any further elaboration in every single thread where sincere discussion is taking place.

You’re creating white noise in a place where we’ve had some awesome and respectful discussions. And I think it’s a shame everyone gladly caters to this attention whoring of you.[/QUOTE]I disagree with your entire statement. For several reasons, the most important being, there’re too many contradictions in what you say and also what you yourself do on the forum. So please, be respectful of other people like myself who do NOT share your opinion, or the way you approach this forum. Also, we do not even play on the same platform, so essentially there is little common ground here apparently. Like I suggested before, if you can keep your discussion not specific to me, then what you say will have more merit. Personal attacks do not. It makes you a hypocrite. I did not derail any discussion. So, just give up and focus on something else besides me. Thank you.