Bridge,Vasili,Sparks,Red eye - balance,buff,nerf


(1AGRESSOR) #1

Brigde needs re balance for attacking team it’s the hardest first stage of all maps

Vasili and Red eye make chevrons or center cross/dot green or red because its hard to see on dark surfaces also make enemy’s glow less noticeable on distance for Vasili and Red eye

also second stage zoom would be great on snipers

Sparks OMG nerf that revive gun its being abused like hell its like some super giga mega OP sniper


(Vaasref) #2

Sparks REVIVR can’t pass trough glass.

A sniper that doesn’t pass glass is merely a BB gun.

Also, if a Sparks dominate a sniper that’s only because the player is more skilled.


(gg2ez) #3

Honestly I find Bridge1 to be one of the most challengingly fun stages in DB. A good Nader can clear attacking on that stage pretty quickly with the help of an OBJ specialist.


(terminal) #4

Honestly I find Bridge1 to be one of the most challengingly fun stages in DB. A good Nader can clear attacking on that stage pretty quickly with the help of an OBJ specialist.

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By “Good” you mean “Pub” right? :*


(gg2ez) #5

Honestly I find Bridge1 to be one of the most challengingly fun stages in DB. A good Nader can clear attacking on that stage pretty quickly with the help of an OBJ specialist.

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By “Good” you mean “Pub” right? :*
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@terminal What’s the difference? We do comp so sparingly here in Oceania, pub is comp :lol:

Just AUS server things~


(GamePois0n) #6

Sparks is way too overpowered, yes it’s reviving gun doesn’t shoot through glass but do you have the time to aim for her behind glass when your team is horrible(on top she can range revive anyone, so 2 guys coming at you, you won’t be focusing on anyone). her reviving gun should do 10 damage(no head damage increase) or just no damage at all.

and people don’t give me that her primary does no damage, but did you know she can revive a teammate across the map? I don’t think there are any healer that can do that neither.

also those who says she shouldn’t be nerf, you are 11/10 abusing her in match channel.

I rarely post any comments but every time I do post, it’s on something overpowered.


(Chase) #7

Firstly, you can just use mumble overlay crosshair to get a green/yellow crosshair of your preference when scoping. Also, I agree that Sparks is extremely op because you can simply pre-charge and revive a fallen teammate upon death to full. This thread shouldn’t even be up since this has been discussed in other threads and yes, the devs are aware and are working on them.


(sentimentalDime) #8

[quote=“GamePois0n;96465”]Sparks is way too overpowered, yes it’s reviving gun doesn’t shoot through glass but do you have the time to aim for her behind glass when your team is horrible(on top she can range revive anyone, so 2 guys coming at you, you won’t be focusing on anyone). her reviving gun should do 10 damage(no head damage increase) or just no damage at all.

and people don’t give me that her primary does no damage, but did you know she can revive a teammate across the map? I don’t think there are any healer that can do that neither.

also those who says she shouldn’t be nerf, you are 11/10 abusing her in match channel.

I rarely post any comments but every time I do post, it’s on something overpowered.[/quote]

@GamePois0n Have you noticed how Sparks has the weakest arsenal of all mercs?

Her Revivr brings her arsenal only just up to par with that of say Nader’s, without her grenade launcher, and unless a Sparks player has really good aim, as the Revivr is a bitch to aim with, (S)he can’t really do anything to you at short-medium range.

Judging from your comment i think you’re a new player and therefore you don’t strafe that much, thus making you an easy target for especially for Sparks.


(LifeupOmega) #9

Vasilli needed a nerf, instagibs on demand was too strong - I don’t know how this will pan out with the upcoming changes, but we may see him get an additional ability to keep his pick-focused play style a considerable power in the game.

Unfortunately, Sparks seems to have been untouched despite how broken she has been shown to be in a competitive format, with almost unstoppable revives at little to no risk. You better hope you’re right next to the person you downed and that the Sparks isn’t ready to get them up as soon as they drop or you’re going to be facing a merc with 50%+ again at zero risk to the Sparks. At this point she may also become a better sniper than Vasilli is, due to how spammable her shots are, and how you need so few to bring down the average merc.

Something either needs to be done about the damage output of the Revivr, or the revive mechanic itself. Sparks needs self defence, yes, but at the moment you’re looking at 130 (iirc) damage on a headshot at full charge, and even if you body shot it will only take two or three shots to down an enemy at range. Alternatively something could be done about revive speed, where, possibly, the further you are from your revive target, the longer it takes for them to get up. If you’re next to them? Same speed as now. If you’re down the road on Chapel, it could take a few seconds. I only propose this as I’ve seen it thrown around a few times as an idea.

I’d like to see her keep the niche of long range reviving, but right now it’s so frustratingly broken to fight a merc with killing potential and healing potential at sniper ranges that I hope they do something about how potent it can be.


(Vaasref) #10

Sparks, as OP as some want to see her, can’t stand without a good team.

If she is as ultimate that every team needs one, is that really an issue ?

In pub, since she need a decent team she can hardly be reliably OP.

In competitive, then if she is a part of the best strategies as Rhino-Aura combo on Bridge or Skyhammer on Chapel, then the two opposed Sparks will be in competition and the teams will also be in competition to be the best meatbags possible.

If an Assault merc or a Sniper is broken then it also break the teamplay, but here we are just talking about a possible master piece of teamplay.

So since Sparks is really hard to master and only work really well in some situations and if the whole team is compatible. Is she still OP ?


(Grave_Knight) #11

Is it really Sparks who is OP and not that revive mechanic? Than again I don’t really see a problem with it, especially if you can get someone to flank around and kill the Sparks.

As for nerfing the damage on the REVIVR, just no. She already gets a secondary weapon as a primary and you also want to make her best weapon weak just because you don’t like getting sniped by it? It’s harder to snipe with that thing than with the sniper rifles. It doesn’t have a proper scope, you have to charge it just to shoot it, and if you want to deal killing damage you have to fully charge it.


(1AGRESSOR) #12

vote on Revive gun nerf pool

http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/comment/96724


(Szakalot) #13

[quote=“Grave Knight;96723”]Is it really Sparks who is OP and not that revive mechanic? Than again I don’t really see a problem with it, especially if you can get someone to flank around and kill the Sparks.

As for nerfing the damage on the REVIVR, just no. She already gets a secondary weapon as a primary and you also want to make her best weapon weak just because you don’t like getting sniped by it? It’s harder to snipe with that thing than with the sniper rifles. It doesn’t have a proper scope, you have to charge it just to shoot it, and if you want to deal killing damage you have to fully charge it.[/quote]

the rate of fire is a huge difference though, allowing sparks to have the best of two worlds: high powered MoA style sniping and PDP-style spam.

All in all, after instagib will be removed from sniper rifles in the next patch sparks will be an objectively better sniper with medic capability


(avidCow) #14

[quote=“Szakalot;96769”][quote=“Grave Knight;96723”]Is it really Sparks who is OP and not that revive mechanic? Than again I don’t really see a problem with it, especially if you can get someone to flank around and kill the Sparks.

As for nerfing the damage on the REVIVR, just no. She already gets a secondary weapon as a primary and you also want to make her best weapon weak just because you don’t like getting sniped by it? It’s harder to snipe with that thing than with the sniper rifles. It doesn’t have a proper scope, you have to charge it just to shoot it, and if you want to deal killing damage you have to fully charge it.[/quote]

the rate of fire is a huge difference though, allowing sparks to have the best of two worlds: high powered MoA style sniping and PDP-style spam.

All in all, after instagib will be removed from sniper rifles in the next patch sparks will be an objectively better sniper with medic capability[/quote]

It has gotten quite ridiculous with Sparks. I was sure they had upped the base charge cost to reduce the spamminess of the revivr, but I tried it the other day and it’s easy as hell to sit back and spam spam spam.


(GamePois0n) #15

[quote=“sentimentalDime;96633”][quote=“GamePois0n;96465”]Sparks is way too overpowered, yes it’s reviving gun doesn’t shoot through glass but do you have the time to aim for her behind glass when your team is horrible(on top she can range revive anyone, so 2 guys coming at you, you won’t be focusing on anyone). her reviving gun should do 10 damage(no head damage increase) or just no damage at all.

and people don’t give me that her primary does no damage, but did you know she can revive a teammate across the map? I don’t think there are any healer that can do that neither.

also those who says she shouldn’t be nerf, you are 11/10 abusing her in match channel.

I rarely post any comments but every time I do post, it’s on something overpowered.[/quote]

@GamePois0n Have you noticed how Sparks has the weakest arsenal of all mercs?

Her Revivr brings her arsenal only just up to par with that of say Nader’s, without her grenade launcher, and unless a Sparks player has really good aim, as the Revivr is a bitch to aim with, (S)he can’t really do anything to you at short-medium range.

Judging from your comment i think you’re a new player and therefore you don’t strafe that much, thus making you an easy target for especially for Sparks.

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@sentimentalDime, can you not use insults right away? Like I said, stop using this, “her weapons are weak” bullshit.

she can revive a teammate far away, she doesn’t need to do any damage, all the close range healers have higher damage output because they are, close range. spark only need to kill the ones rushes up to her with her ACTUAL WEAPONS.

basically she can replace both a sniper and a healer.

and you used the example of nader, are you serious? nader suppose to push, sparks suppose to heal. not heal and do damage at the same time.

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I’m talking about competitive match of course. a good nader < a good sparks, that’s why she needs to get nerfed to the ground then buff a little bit back up so people don’t complain, “oh no she was nerfed, gg, no one will ever play her again.”


(sentimentalDime) #16

[quote=“GamePois0n;97310”][quote=“sentimentalDime;96633”][quote=“GamePois0n;96465”]Sparks is way too overpowered, yes it’s reviving gun doesn’t shoot through glass but do you have the time to aim for her behind glass when your team is horrible(on top she can range revive anyone, so 2 guys coming at you, you won’t be focusing on anyone). her reviving gun should do 10 damage(no head damage increase) or just no damage at all.

and people don’t give me that her primary does no damage, but did you know she can revive a teammate across the map? I don’t think there are any healer that can do that neither.

also those who says she shouldn’t be nerf, you are 11/10 abusing her in match channel.

I rarely post any comments but every time I do post, it’s on something overpowered.[/quote]

@GamePois0n Have you noticed how Sparks has the weakest arsenal of all mercs?

Her Revivr brings her arsenal only just up to par with that of say Nader’s, without her grenade launcher, and unless a Sparks player has really good aim, as the Revivr is a bitch to aim with, (S)he can’t really do anything to you at short-medium range.

Judging from your comment i think you’re a new player and therefore you don’t strafe that much, thus making you an easy target for especially for Sparks[/qoute]

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@sentimentalDime, can you not use insults right away? [/quote]
@GamePois0n Uhm… Where did i use an insult in my comment?

stop using this, “her weapons are weak” bullshit.

But it’s not bullshit, she has the weakest weapons of any merc.

she can revive a teammate far away, she doesn’t need to do any damage.

Oh, i see, you want sparks to be a walking ‘‘SHOOT ME’’ sign anywhere outside of close range.

Not heal and do damage at the same time.

How about someone like Skyhammer, he has access to one of the best abilities in the game, while also having access to (arguably) the best weapon of the game, the M4.

Edit: Fixed the quotes thanks to @gg2ez


(JJMAJR) #17

I would say have Sparks get less use capacity for her REVIVR. Then add on an ability where she could get people up 50% faster than non-medic mercs.

That way, Sparks could still fit the medic role very efficiently while not being so powerful as to reviving people left and right throughout the course of a game.

That would leave her with her weaponry. If the Sparks gets nerfed in ways I suggested, then she would have a large nerf in firepower. I’d leave it to the community to choose what weapons she should have, but to those who have some words against snipers, remember that Sparks doesn’t have a spotting ability.


(gg2ez) #18

@sentimentalDime Just remove the “/” on the starting tags. You only need to put them on the end :tongue:


(sentimentalDime) #19

@gg2ez Ah, thanks.


(GamePois0n) #20

[quote=“sentimentalDime;97331”][quote=“GamePois0n;97310”][quote=“sentimentalDime;96633”][quote=“GamePois0n;96465”]Sparks is way too overpowered, yes it’s reviving gun doesn’t shoot through glass but do you have the time to aim for her behind glass when your team is horrible(on top she can range revive anyone, so 2 guys coming at you, you won’t be focusing on anyone). her reviving gun should do 10 damage(no head damage increase) or just no damage at all.

and people don’t give me that her primary does no damage, but did you know she can revive a teammate across the map? I don’t think there are any healer that can do that neither.

also those who says she shouldn’t be nerf, you are 11/10 abusing her in match channel.

I rarely post any comments but every time I do post, it’s on something overpowered.[/quote]

@GamePois0n Have you noticed how Sparks has the weakest arsenal of all mercs?

Her Revivr brings her arsenal only just up to par with that of say Nader’s, without her grenade launcher, and unless a Sparks player has really good aim, as the Revivr is a bitch to aim with, (S)he can’t really do anything to you at short-medium range.

Judging from your comment i think you’re a new player and therefore you don’t strafe that much, thus making you an easy target for especially for Sparks[/qoute]

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@sentimentalDime, can you not use insults right away? [/quote]
@GamePois0n Uhm… Where did i use an insult in my comment?

stop using this, “her weapons are weak” bullshit.

But it’s not bullshit, she has the weakest weapons of any merc.

she can revive a teammate far away, she doesn’t need to do any damage.

Oh, i see, you want sparks to be a walking ‘‘SHOOT ME’’ sign anywhere outside of close range.

Not heal and do damage at the same time.

How about someone like Skyhammer, he has access to one of the best abilities in the game, while also having access to (arguably) the best weapon of the game, the M4.

Edit: Fixed the quotes thanks to @gg2ez
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@sentimentalDime, yea at close range, secondary is more powerful than primary weapons, you don’t need sparks to take the front line of DAMAGE OUTPUT. she is basically a bolt sniper with faster rof and able to heal teammate.

if she stay behind the entire team there is no way to kill her at all, especially when I have to carry the entire team.

also m4 is not the best weapon in the game, top tier, but not the best.