BFBC2 vs ETQW

(signofzeta) #41

It’s a shame that pirated copies are more accessible than legit copies. So big news to Developers, if it is much more of a hassle to run your game, and someone pirates your game, and it is easier to run that copy, then the developers are doing it wrong. A balance must be found between ease of accessibility and security. There is no game out there where one single pirate can’t crack it.

I like id’s style of having the no cd patch as their first patch. Wolfenstein does not have this… yet. I hope Brink uses the same strategy where the first patch is the no cd patch. Doesn’t ETQW use this strategy too?

If there is enough voices to be heard in the BFBC2 forums, maybe EA and DICE will drop the stupid Securom thing… or maybe not.

(_milla) #42

absolutely no problem for me:)

(PSG_Mud) #43

betas were never suppose to be demos. alot of games… like etqw suffered from their betas.

(light_sh4v0r) #44

I have a beta key, gonna try it out. Prolly won’t be amazed by it, never really liked older BF games.

(Kl3ppy) #45

Ok, this game is having a good chance to fail for competition. Im disappointed, vids were looking good, but i played 2 hours and in my eyes, the game sux. Gonna try it tomorrow again, maybe i change my view but now im putting more hope in Brink :wink:

(PSG_Mud) #46

I think I have a reliable sorce for keys and beta client DL. Not sure quite yet if they’re legit but I have a hunch they are. If you’re interested and I know you from the old ETQW forums send a PM and I will tell you how I did it. Legal btw.

Child please.

(Stroggafier) #47

Hahaha.

Sounds like what I use to say to my kids:

“Those carrots are sweet like candy. But, you probably won’t like them. No-one likes to eat sweeties with supper.”

(PSG_Mud) #48

Don’t know how long my keys will last so, don’t hesitate to PM.

(PSG_Mud) #49

well that didn’t last very long, out of keys sorry guys.

(f34n0r) #50

played it for about 4 hours so far today.

good workaround for crashing and failing to connect: bypass any routers you might have, directly connect your PC to your internet, then go to program files and right click on the BFBC2.exe and run it as administrator.

then load the game up, click JOIN GAME a whole bunch of times even if it constantly says “connection lost” then after a while open up the server tab on the right side of the screen and you will see a history of all the servers you randomly tried to connect to, then you can find the one with the lowest ping and keep trying to connect to it until you get in. DO NOT use the server browser at the top of the screen, that one doesn’t work and will crash your game.

thoughts on the game: snipers are way too overpowered, the RPG is too underpowered, sporadically-mounted weapons are randomly placed and too overpowered. I owned about 35 infantry and 10 tanks with a mounted anti-Tank missile turret that let me aim the missle after i shot it. I did 8 circles around this guy who was spinning around trying to escape before I killed him. The range on it is infinite.

Moving is slow and choppy, weapons need a lot of tweaking, most machine guns have horrid spread. The ironic thing is the game does not let you prone or lean but many of the weapons have tripod stand attachments that logically are only used when proning in real life. You can’t zoom in when scoped even on the sniper rifle and the blur and spread when scoped is too high. VOIP doesn’t seem to work and there is no indication who you’re talking to, whether it’s team, squad or global.

The maps are tiny b/c even though they are huge you can only use a very small part of the map for each objective, and when the objectives are done the map moves everyone to the next small area, anyone who goes out of bounds dies within 10 seconds. Spawning is very confusing and it is not very clear where a lot of the vehicles are.

(otakustar) #51

expected something like this :slight_smile:
:oppressor:
and what I’ve seen from videos: bfbc2sp looks like crysis on rails (no open environment)…
I’m waiting for rage and brink linux-clients, till then I’ll keep enjoying et:qw and some ql.
oh, and splash-damage should port w:et to android asap :stroggtapir:

(PSG_Mud) #52

playing it now, its pretty fun. Controls are kinda weird. I keep pressing “r” to goto third person tank lol.

(BioSnark) #53

When’s rage scheduled?

(PSG_Mud) #54

Ok, where do I start. ETQW is still a very good game. BFBC2 is probably the overall better game, however… that doesn’t matter. No matter how similar they may seem, they’re nothing alike in terms of gameplay. I put ETQW as one of the best tactical shooters I’ve ever played so to rate it above ETQW is difficult for me.

ETQW has alot of action that features indoor play. I haven’t looked yet if BFBC2 will have indoor objectives yet, but they do change the style of play significantly.
ETQW has quicker mobility with infantry and vehicles for faster gameplay. Players with quick reflexes benefit from this the most. I would express it by saying, ETQW is like a 4-Door Sedan and BFBC2 is like driving a semi truck.
ETQW is pretty balanced as well, nothing overly crazy really hurts this game.

BFBC2 style is is like CoD4 advanced version(it doesn’t exit). There is so many noob friendly things in CoD4 it can make it extremely frustrating. I would say, CoD weapon selection is probably more diverse though so far. But, that is bound to change. Sniping in this game is actually difficult to do, as you have to aim slightly above the persons head due to gravity. Weapons get alot stronger as you unlock new weapons(something I don’t really like to much).
BFBC2 destructible terrain is absolutely awesome. By far the best feature of this game so far. For example there is this spot on the map featured that is like a concrete portable bathroom with mess for windows. It makes it nearly impossible for enemy snipers to spot you. However, an strong explosive can easily take this out. I was hiding in it picking off players 40 yards away easy till it was destroyed. Also, destroying walls or “things” can provide cover fire or nice vantage points. Its something the gaming community will have to experiment with.
BFBC2 requires ALOT of teamwork. Its not like ETQW where you can go medic and just win even though ETQW is heavily team oriented. The open field crossfire and spotting makes it nearly impossible for one player to make a difference by himself. To use the tank it takes at least 2 people to be truly effective in it. There is alot more.
The only thing obvious other than lag/crash issues atm would be balance issues. Stuff like sniper spotting can be pretty imba at times. We will see. Radar is really only good for seeing where your team is so maybe it makes up for it. The coverts have something like a third eye camera but it doesn’t last very long and has a radius about 40% of ETQW has. We will see.

The innovating gameplay makes BFBC2 a instant buy. I will without a doubt buy this game. To me its like ETQW and CoD4 mixed.

(maggol) #55

[QUOTE=PSG_Mud;209673]Ok, where do I start. ETQW is still a very good game. BFBC2 is probably the overall better game, however… that doesn’t matter. No matter how similar they may seem, they’re nothing alike in terms of gameplay. I put ETQW as one of the best tactical shooters I’ve ever played so to rate it above ETQW is difficult for me.

ETQW has alot of action that features indoor play. I haven’t looked yet if BFBC2 will have indoor objectives yet, but they do change the style of play significantly.
ETQW has quicker mobility with infantry and vehicles for faster gameplay. Players with quick reflexes benefit from this the most. I would express it by saying, ETQW is like a 4-Door Sedan and BFBC2 is like driving a semi truck.
ETQW is pretty balanced as well, nothing overly crazy really hurts this game.

BFBC2 style is is like CoD4 advanced version(it doesn’t exit). There is so many noob friendly things in CoD4 it can make it extremely frustrating. I would say, CoD weapon selection is probably more diverse though so far. But, that is bound to change. Sniping in this game is actually difficult to do, as you have to aim slightly above the persons head due to gravity. Weapons get alot stronger as you unlock new weapons(something I don’t really like to much).
BFBC2 destructible terrain is absolutely awesome. By far the best feature of this game so far. For example there is this spot on the map featured that is like a concrete portable bathroom with mess for windows. It makes it nearly impossible for enemy snipers to spot you. However, an strong explosive can easily take this out. I was hiding in it picking off players 40 yards away easy till it was destroyed. Also, destroying walls or “things” can provide cover fire or nice vantage points. Its something the gaming community will have to experiment with.
BFBC2 requires ALOT of teamwork. Its not like ETQW where you can go medic and just win even though ETQW is heavily team oriented. The open field crossfire and spotting makes it nearly impossible for one player to make a difference by himself. To use the tank it takes at least 2 people to be truly effective in it. There is alot more.
The only thing obvious other than lag/crash issues atm would be balance issues. Stuff like sniper spotting can be pretty imba at times. We will see. Radar is really only good for seeing where your team is so maybe it makes up for it. The coverts have something like a third eye camera but it doesn’t last very long and has a radius about 40% of ETQW has. We will see.

The innovating gameplay makes BFBC2 a instant buy. I will without a doubt buy this game. To me its like ETQW and CoD4 mixed.[/QUOTE]

Good review, man. Explain a lot about BF: BC2

(NJ_Dude) #56

I’ve checked the videos and looks like a nice game, still, ETQW is KING.

I’ll install the BETA later and check it out.

What I’ve noticed is that is GDF powered :D, in the install folder there is a “GDFBinary.dll”, coincidence? :tongue:

(signofzeta) #57

[QUOTE=Stroggafier;209628]Hahaha.

Sounds like what I use to say to my kids:

“Those carrots are sweet like candy. But, you probably won’t like them. No-one likes to eat sweeties with supper.”[/QUOTE]

dude, have you put skittles mixed with honey and water in rice? I did that when I was a kid, and let me tell you, it was disgusting.

ETQW vs Battlefield Bad Company 2? I’d pick ETQW just for the sole fact that I arleady own that game. At this time of needing money, I’d only buy games that I would really really really really really want. If that game is meh, I pass on it.

(AnthonyDa) #58

When it’s done.

(f34n0r) #59

Thing that bothers me the most is the zoning thing which does not appear to be a beta problem, it’s clearly done on purpose. What is the point of huge maps if you’re always penned up in a tiny little section of it with no access to most of the map/terrain/weapons/vehicles for most of the map?

(Ashog) #60

The people say the games are different. Where the hell is the threshold when you’d say the games are different and when not? To me ETQW and BC2 are more similar than different. The only huge difference is physics/movement. It is indeed much slower than ETQW or W:ET. Teamwork is needed IMHO not much more than in ETQW where you CAN’T win by just being a medic as you say. As for my first impression (and yes, I haven’t played much yet), I do not see so far any innovation in gameplay etc, other than a certain amount of destructible objects, when comparing to ETQW. It is negligible though to an amount of such objects the Red Faction game had. Maybe I will see such “innovation” later.

Now questions, if anyone knows:

  • I can’t sprint and strafe simultaneously. Me or feature?
  • Grenades don’t prime (cook) ?
  • No chat/VoIP/voicechats working?
  • Console to disable annoying headbob?

Thx in advance.