Hi fellas im 8lvl and i love to play medics i have 1 gold 3 silvers and couple bronze loadouts for phoenix. I have only crotzinis and keks is the hochnir smg good or witch is the best?
Best smg for phoenix?
JJMAJR
(JJMAJR)
#4
Hochfir comes with the best buffs.
The other SMGs compensate for that with more firepower.
Honestly between each build Phoenix is the most balanced in the game. If you want a glass cannon, don’t use Hochfir. If you want the most powerful healer builds, use the Hochfir.
Also, always remember the Stiletto is a speed buff. If you need to tap revive someone (combat) it becomes your best friend.
Ritobasu
(Ritobasu)
#7
They’re all good, especially after this patch
SD wants to keep nerfing the Crotzni into oblivion (still fine if you can land all your shots), while buffing the Hochfire into a peashooting laser beam of death. KEK is KEK, but probably has the least attractive loadouts for boosting your medic capabilities
sgtCrookyGrin
(sgtCrookyGrin)
#8
KEK and Crotzni are overall good for combat depending on preference, Hochfir is just for the medical abilities which (personally) are not as handy since Phoenix is pretty good for just the solo play.
LifeupOmega
(LifeupOmega)
#9
Kek is still the best if you want to be killing people. Hochfir has the better support augments.
bgyoshi
(bgyoshi)
#11
Also on the Crotzni train here, but I’ve seen the Hochfir doing better and better each time I play so it might be worth giving it a shot. I’ll just reaffirm what others have said, in that Phoenix’s gun is far less important than his augments are. Use loadouts with strong heal augments, don’t play him (or any healer, or anyone really) for K/D potential.
MarsRover
(MarsRover)
#12
You can’t really go wrong when choosing a primary for Phoenix. It’s down to preference and the choice between better pulse and better reviving.
doxjq
(doxjq)
#13
Why does everyone bash on the Crotz? I never even noticed its nerfs - when was it even nerfed? I have been playing since June or July 2015 and I don’t even remember seeing any patch notes about it being nerfed nor can I feel the difference. It feels great to me.
I currently put out 44.7% accuracy with it and get an insane amount of kills. To me it feels more effective than the M4 within its given range. It chews through people if you land headshots.
WaffleMonster
(WaffleMonster)
#15
[quote=“rancid;155670”]Why does everyone bash on the Crotz? I never even noticed its nerfs - when was it even nerfed? I have been playing since June or July 2015 and I don’t even remember seeing any patch notes about it being nerfed nor can I feel the difference. It feels great to me.
I currently put out 44.7% accuracy with it and get an insane amount of kills. To me it feels more effective than the M4 within its given range. It chews through people if you land headshots. [/quote]
The weapon had it’s spread significantly increased around the time of the phantom/aimpunch patch, really pissed of the comp community at the time. The crotzni is still a good smg especially up close but the other smg’s (especially the smg9) are on very close or on par. The kek > all as has always been the case.
Splicer
(Splicer)
#16
If your looking for damage the Crotzni is your choice. With higher damage to the body and head than the Kek or Hochfir, although its fire rate is slower than the Kek and Hochfir. The Hochfir is the fastest firing gun right now, but if you want something in between, its the Kek. It all comes down to what aspects of a gun you like.
Tanker_Ray
(Tanker_Ray)
#17
Definitely KE81’s Hochfir.
Crotzni is best for firepower, but I really do recommend you to use it on Sawbonez with CR42.
for Phoenix, CR71.
Kek’s loadout isn’t very good.
solace
(solace_)
#19
crotzni is a good weapon and also some of his crotzni loadouts come with good perks.