Are there any news on black cipher?

(Nail) #21

Can you see that “nexon.net” in the link? And even if it would be just formal part of that link (like provider of domain or something) does that mean that SD should ignore problem caused by third party programs (especialy when shoe mentioned that problem in his videos )? I know NGS is not their program but still it is their game so they should care about fixing that problem. It does not matter if they or nexon will fix it. I believe they cooperate somehow.[/quote]

Black Cipher is an application Nexon uses over several of it’s games, not just Dirty Bomb, and as such is not under Splash Damage control in any way. Nexon doesn’t acknowledge problems with servers or NGS, they never have. (corporate policy I assume) [/quote]

But SD could just make something “wrong” during the tuning update which causes spiking of NGS. It does not have to be NEXONs fault. [/quote]

not how it works, the engine hasn’t changed, NGS is causing spiking

(TitaniumRapture) #22

Can you see that “nexon.net” in the link? And even if it would be just formal part of that link (like provider of domain or something) does that mean that SD should ignore problem caused by third party programs (especialy when shoe mentioned that problem in his videos )? I know NGS is not their program but still it is their game so they should care about fixing that problem. It does not matter if they or nexon will fix it. I believe they cooperate somehow.[/quote]

Black Cipher is an application Nexon uses over several of it’s games, not just Dirty Bomb, and as such is not under Splash Damage control in any way. Nexon doesn’t acknowledge problems with servers or NGS, they never have. (corporate policy I assume) [/quote]

But SD could just make something “wrong” during the tuning update which causes spiking of NGS. It does not have to be NEXONs fault. [/quote]

not how it works, the engine hasn’t changed, NGS is causing spiking [/quote]

If you are right then there is no hope. :confused:

(pumpkinmeerkat) #23

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(GatoCommodore) #24

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(TitaniumRapture) #25

So no love for us anymore? :confused:

(Dagasawr) #26

The community already gets a lot of love.

(TitaniumRapture) #27

The community already gets a lot of love.[/quote]

Yeah why should they give us some information about problem with their game.

(Dagasawr) #28

The community already gets a lot of love.[/quote]

Yeah why should they give us some information about problem with their game.[/quote]

I’m sure we will get information when there is a advancement on fixing the problem but untill then there is not point all they would be saying is we are working on it(which is a waste of time).

(pumpkinmeerkat) #29

Personally, I wouldn’t mind an update on this as input lag has been a source of a lot of frustration for me since MOFO.

(n-x) #30

Just something along the lines of: We have no clue yet/We know whats going on, but have problems with the implementation/It will be fixed with the next update.

@RazielWarmonic what do you say. After 1.5 months of silence on this topic. Just give us anything. We waited months for optimization and now for some of us the game is even worse than before the patch. Just anything.

(The_N00Ba) #31

When Raziel has access to an official statement agreed upon by members of Nexon and I imagine Splash Damage, I sure she will respond in kind.

If it was up to only her, I imagine we would be hearing a lot of cool stuff, because I think she is a gamer at heart.

That is not how businesses work though from my observations. There are policies and contracts that must be followed.

It may not be fun but sometimes it is necessary from what I noticed in my life so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7leQB_Oe_k

(n-x) #32

It’s nice that you can imagine so many things, but Raziel is a big girl, I bet she can talk for herself. But when we are all imagine stuff. I imagine it is not a good business move to hype improvements over months and then deliver something that makes the game worse and then just think ah fuck it, we will just be silent about it. And to answer a question about said silence with more silence.

And here is a video for you:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb7zH-UoJYk[/video]

(GatoCommodore) #33

@Kelben , @The_N00B

this is music thread now?

also,
id rather wait and play the game its not entirely unplayable like hella hot mess trapped in beta

also, if you a bit bored, come join me blasting tanks with s h i t t y japanese tanks
https://s1.scalemates.com/products/img/3/0/4/120304-12660-13-pristine.jpg

currently been playing warthunder again so i dednt get bored with DB too fast.

(RazielWarmonic) #34

[quote=“Kelben;c-218105”]Just something along the lines of: We have no clue yet/We know whats going on, but have problems with the implementation/It will be fixed with the next update.

@RazielWarmonic what do you say. After 1.5 months of silence on this topic. Just give us anything. We waited months for optimization and now for some of us the game is even worse than before the patch. Just anything.[/quote]

Unfortunately since my last statement, I haven’t heard anything about it. As far as I know, they are still investigating.

Shortly after the MOFO updates, we changed some thing in the backend that showed positive results regarding CPU issues on our test machines - I’ll let them know that users are still experiencing CPU spikes however to make sure they know. :slight_smile:

(pumpkinmeerkat) #35

Is the Nexon community manager really the person responsible for reporting bugs to SD? I assume not. Since no one else from Nexon is active on this forum who should we mention when issues go unresolved/unconfirmed for months?

Shoe did respond recently to a bug discussion in general chat indicating SD are aware of a number of issues posted there. Overall Nexon and SD seem to put very little into this forum in terms of responses which isn’t great but safe to say they are just really busy. SD/Nexon shouldn’t promise fixes to issues they aren’t sure they can deliver on and shouldn’t promise features that may never make it into the game. For bugs it would just be nice to get confirmation when issues are being looked into and/or confirmed so we don’t keep posting and wondering IMO.

Is actual beta testing going on in the PTS? Feels like the general beta playerbase is just left to post repeatedly about the same issues over and over without anything changing in game. As long as the memes remain spicy I guess it’s okay.

I miss @NxA_Noxie :’( :’( :’(

(n-x) #36

@RazielWarmonic indeed, it got better after your tweaks, but its still not fixed and far away from how smooth it was with blackcipher deactivated. But thx a lot for answering.

@pumpkinmeerkat ngs/blackcipher is a nexon product. Not much SD can do about. But i agree with the rest you said.

(The_N00Ba) #37

Nah @sweetColumn
I avoid posting music unless I feel it fits. I find both the song I posted and the Beetles “All you need is love” to be very fitting now a days.

@Kelben
lol. Of course Raziel can speak for themselves. I do not find them to be a push over.
I can speak for myself as well. :stuck_out_tongue:
Why you think I was trying to talk for her, I have no idea. I don’t think we act the same at all. It’s not like we are the same person… or are we?

Imagine…
I have seen Raziel have to stop themselves from geeking out about some of the stuff they know. Granted I also watch the streams.

The video is interesting. I personally feel a lot of pain come from that video. Sorry if you felt the video I posted was meant only for you. It was not. It does sum up of my observations of life so far.

Far too many wars have been started and fought simply because some one wanted something and could not let it go. Millions of us have died simply because some one only thought of themselves. Some times it is necessary, but a lot of times I have found it is not. Just me though. :slight_smile:

(n-x) #38

This was maybe the most boring and plain insight into life I have read in a long time. And that you think it is such an epiphany that you felt the urge to post that in a thread about performance issues of an anti cheat software on a message board of a video game in beta is kind of pretentious and pathetic at the same time.

(The_N00Ba) #39

You have the right to both have and express your opinion Kelben. As do I
Luckily… I can always ignore yours as white noise when I need to. :slight_smile: lol

I have only responded here and continue to do so from a desire to defend myself, my opinion, and even my ability to express my opinion. I do not find the attitude I see here to be amusing at all.

In the end though I believe this to be all moot.

You have gotten a kind response from Raziel Warmonic
I think that was the most important part here. :slight_smile:

A lot of what followed seems to be just derailing at this point.

By all means if you wish to keep derailing go right ahead.

(Chris Mullins) #40

@Kelben Sadly we don’t have a lot of information about this currently. The tech guys have been looking at updating some of the back-end services to improve performance. Also, what are you using to test your input lag? I’m curious to test mine hah.

As @The_N00B said too quite a lot of us were away for holidays, but I apologise for the delay. It’s always nice to hear something rather than nothing. I’ll do my best to keep my eyes on this for you. Just tag me in posts :slight_smile: