[quote=“Cappe;105774”]IMHO smurf account should not be allowed, it will hurt the game more than help it. DB will lose players to smurfs especially new players who will get slaugthered by them even in max lvl 5 servers.
For those who say they do it for their own enjoyment, what about the other players enjoyment? Are they not allowed to play against ppl of their own lvl??[/quote]
Block smurfs from Max lvl 5 servers.
I can’t imagine smurfs being a major problem in this game. What is it, like 1-2 hours to reach level 5? After that they’re back where they were with their main account, except they only have Aura, Skyhammer and the current rotation without loadouts. Balancing in pubs are only based on the last 10 matches, so by the time you get out of max level 5 servers you’re already ranked at your main accounts level and will be matched accordingly.
I suppose it’s more effective in comp, but again you have to play like 3 hours to reach level 7? And then you’re playing comp with Aura, Skyhammer and the current rotation without loadouts. So unless you love playing Aura or Skyhammer, it sounds pretty shit to smurf, and even then you don’t get your preferred loadout.
So how is this a problem? Is it just new players being annoyed that a level 7 is reking them? I wasn’t smurfing and I was reking people from the get go. If you’re good at shooters you can come into new games and rek people, don’t need to play that game to get good at it. Of course you get better over time when you learn the maps and game specifics. But an experienced shooter player already have strong fundamentals, like good aim, movement, awareness, strategy. And considering how linear maps in DB are, by the time you’re level 7 you probably have a good idea of the layout. You may not know all the shortcuts and trick jumps, but you know enough.
[quote=“laudatoryLunch;105792”][quote=“Cappe;105774”]IMHO smurf account should not be allowed, it will hurt the game more than help it. DB will lose players to smurfs especially new players who will get slaugthered by them even in max lvl 5 servers.
For those who say they do it for their own enjoyment, what about the other players enjoyment? Are they not allowed to play against ppl of their own lvl??[/quote]
Block smurfs from Max lvl 5 servers.[/quote]
And how would you do that?? Do you really think that this problem is only for the max lvl 5 servers??
More importantly, how are they gonna prevent smurfs? There’s no way of knowing whether an account is a smurf or not.
[quote=“Litego;105795”]I can’t imagine smurfs being a major problem in this game. What is it, like 1-2 hours to reach level 5? After that they’re back where they were with their main account, except they only have Aura, Skyhammer and the current rotation without loadouts. Balancing in pubs are only based on the last 10 matches, so by the time you get out of max level 5 servers you’re already ranked at your main accounts level and will be matched accordingly.
I suppose it’s more effective in comp, but again you have to play like 3 hours to reach level 7? And then you’re playing comp with Aura, Skyhammer and the current rotation without loadouts. So unless you love playing Aura or Skyhammer, it sounds pretty shit to smurf, and even then you don’t get your preferred loadout.
So how is this a problem? Is it just new players being annoyed that a level 7 is reking them? I wasn’t smurfing and I was reking people from the get go. If you’re good at shooters you can come into new games and rek people, don’t need to play that game to get good at it. Of course you get better over time when you learn the maps and game specifics. But an experienced shooter player already have strong fundamentals, like good aim, movement, awareness, strategy. And considering how linear maps in DB are, by the time you’re level 7 you probably have a good idea of the layout. You may not know all the shortcuts and trick jumps, but you know enough.[/quote]
So why do you have to smurf if it becomes the same like before after only 2 hours?? Is it just to show of to the newbies?? It seems to me most smurf are just elitists needing to show off their scores from slaughtering newbies.
Add it to the things you can report ppl for. Most will probably get reported for hacking by newbies anyway.
I don’t smurf, I just don’t have anything against it either.
Add it to the things you can report ppl for. Most will probably get reported for hacking by newbies anyway.[/quote]
You can report, but SD can’t do anything about it. How are they gonna prove if it was a smurf or not?
Lmao, most smurfs are just for comp, people who often play comp also want to be able to find matches. A report function for this is just the most bullshit thing you can do.
I know that people like lightningzor (tag) newb (sick6) panda (v56) and a few others all use smurfs just so they can get a comp match, it’s not like if they wanted to start over but they just can’t find matches anymore…
Maybe they should actually fix MM and make it appealing for people to play so people aren’t forced to make smurfs to find a game without waiting for an hour. I play with some of the guys above from time to time and they’re just as annoyed about it - they’d rather be on their mains but you just can’t find games because no one wants to play MM.
For a mode that literally requires a larger-than-what-we-have pool to work, you’d think SD would actually add incentive to play that mode and not pubs.
Smurfs damage this game in more ways than you guys think:[list]
[] new players will quit the game after getting slaughtered by same lvl players.
[] older players will quit out of frustration of getting slaugthered by lower lvl players.
[] it also gives SD false numbers about how many players DB has, if everyone would start making smurf accounts DB will end up with huge amounts of accounts but no players
[] more accounts that will probably never use any real money to buy anything
[] more reports of hackers, which will interfere with catching actual hackers
[] lvls never were much but atleast they were an indication of how experienced a player was with the game but now it even lost that 1 thing it was kind of usefull for.
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Plenty of games have made smurf accounts not allowed because it’s just bad for them.
I’m not going to comment on this anymore cause you smurfs clearly can’t see the damage it does/will do to the game. I hope you will see that before it’s too late, remember a FTP without casual players will die.
[quote=“laudatoryLunch;105536”][quote=“random;105475”]There’s also players from CS:GO here now (now with all the promotion for the CW update, Execution and stuff), ran across a GE Level 6 player reking everyone (including me).
Why should it not be allowed to be better at the game with a lower level, let them waste their time unlocking all the mercs again…[/quote]
Come on. Playing well in CS doesn’t make you good in DB. I came across people with muliple thousands of CS GO hours sitting in a corner with Skyhammer or only shooting while crouching. Dirty Bomb is much faster and more vertical than CS will ever be. [/quote]
You haven’t ran into me yet then in DB ; )
I will probably give you a heart attack xD
Oh really? And how did they catch those smurfs? Oh right, they didn’t! They just said it’s against the rules, and people all of a sudden stopped smurfing… Yeah right.
Here’s the reality of it guys, how exactly do you know someone is a smurf? It is absolutely possible to play against someone who is very good and still a low level.
So what do you do? Start kicking people because they are doing better than you? Keep people from making more than one account? How would you manage that? It’s not possible.
Your only solution is to suck it up and learn how to fight against them, plain and simple. And don’t give me an excuse or say “ugh I’m so tired of hearing that”. Because you know what I’m sick of? People bitching about things the devs can do VERY little about, while you, as the player, can ALWAYS do more, always. There is no such thing as good enough.
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;105886”]Here’s the reality of it guys, how exactly do you know someone is a smurf? It is absolutely possible to play against someone who is very good and still a low level.
So what do you do? Start kicking people because they are doing better than you? Keep people from making more than one account? How would you manage that? It’s not possible.
Your only solution is to suck it up and learn how to fight against them, plain and simple. And don’t give me an excuse or say “ugh I’m so tired of hearing that”. Because you know what I’m sick of? People bitching about things the devs can do VERY little about, while you, as the player, can ALWAYS do more, always. There is no such thing as good enough.[/quote]
So what you’re saying is that it is the other players fault that you guys don’t have anyone to play against? Ever thought that your smurfaccounts are part of the cause why there are so few at your rank? How would people get to your ranks if they get stomped by your smurfaccounts on lower ranks?
So stop blaming others for something you partially cause yourself!
I smurf because SD refuses to hide player levels in pubs.
Tired of all the level-shaming(HURR DURR NO LIFE) and other unwanted attention.
@Cappe
Congratulations on completely missing the point. Which is it does not fucking matter whether someone is a smurf or a level 50 something, the point is you will never improve if you aren’t forced to. You HAVE to challenge yourself if you want to get better, and the only way to do that is to face better players. So play, stop worrying about dying and worry about what you can work on, better aim, positioning, awareness, whatever it takes.
And for the record, I don’t smurf, I don’t see the point.
[quote=“Cappe;105774”]IMHO smurf account should not be allowed, it will hurt the game more than help it. DB will lose players to smurfs especially new players who will get slaugthered by them even in max lvl 5 servers.
For those who say they do it for their own enjoyment, what about the other players enjoyment? Are they not allowed to play against ppl of their own lvl??[/quote]
It will take a good player in between two to four games to hit level 5 and then not much longer beyond that to hit 6 and no longer qualify for those servers. Hopefully a player choosing to level a smurf account won’t be using quick join and won’t be joining max level 5 servers and instead use the server browser and join all level servers. But if they are at least they won’t be on those servers for long.
Of course there are talks of changing them to max level 7 servers which significantly increases the amount of time a smurf could spend on the bunny slopes griefing.
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;105918”]@Cappe
Congratulations on completely missing the point. Which is it does not fucking matter whether someone is a smurf or a level 50 something, the point is you will never improve if you aren’t forced to. You HAVE to challenge yourself if you want to get better, and the only way to do that is to face better players. So play, stop worrying about dying and worry about what you can work on, better aim, positioning, awareness, whatever it takes.
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If it does not matter then why smurf?
I have no idea how good/bad I am in comparison to you guys but if the skill gap is too great it WILL push people away from DB.
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;105918”]@Cappe
And for the record, I don’t smurf, I don’t see the point.[/quote]
I don’t see the point in doing it either, it has more negative effects to DB than it could ever have positive effects. That’s why I am arguing against smurfing.
[quote=“Cappe;105925”][quote=“Watsyurdeal;105918”]@Cappe
Congratulations on completely missing the point. Which is it does not fucking matter whether someone is a smurf or a level 50 something, the point is you will never improve if you aren’t forced to. You HAVE to challenge yourself if you want to get better, and the only way to do that is to face better players. So play, stop worrying about dying and worry about what you can work on, better aim, positioning, awareness, whatever it takes.
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If it does not matter then why smurf?
I have no idea how good/bad I am in comparison to you guys but if the skill gap is too great it WILL push people away from DB.
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;105918”]@Cappe
And for the record, I don’t smurf, I don’t see the point.[/quote]
I don’t see the point in doing it either, it has more negative effects to DB than it could ever have positive effects. That’s why I am arguing against smurfing.
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You’re asking me why people smurf? Because they have an ego problem that’s why.
It’s the same reason people who are bad at the game don’t wanna play against people like Ragnak or Amerika, because they’re so far ahead of them they can compete.
People are lazy, they don’t wanna be challenged, they rather play it easy or safe because it takes less effort. Whereas I am one of those weird masochistic people who loves a challenge.
[quote=“Amerika;105923”][quote=“Cappe;105774”]IMHO smurf account should not be allowed, it will hurt the game more than help it. DB will lose players to smurfs especially new players who will get slaugthered by them even in max lvl 5 servers.
For those who say they do it for their own enjoyment, what about the other players enjoyment? Are they not allowed to play against ppl of their own lvl??[/quote]
It will take a good player in between two to four games to hit level 5. Hopefully a player choosing to level a smurf account won’t be using quick join and won’t be joining max level 5 servers and instead use the server browser and join all level servers.[/quote]
Do you honestly believe smurfs will not join max lvl 5 servers?? For smurfs it’s the easiest way to get quick xp and the “fun” part of completely dominating the new players.