Anti-Cheat

(novelJoke) #1

Keep hearing “it’s coming” but yet to see an update to it that actually does something.

When?

(KangaJoo) #2

Last I heard they were looking into finding a different anticheat provider. It’d be nice to see them use fairfight along with a traditional anticheat like punkbuster or vac.

(Mister__Wiggles) #3

Fair fight is good but I seen it ban legit players in the past because of how it works. Punkbuster along with Vac bans seems more plausible, I also think that anyone thay has a previous vac ban should not be allowed to make an account.

(novelJoke) #4

I’m fine with it banning a few legit players if it just banwaves the fuck out of the people esp’ing. Punkbuster is a good route as they update regularly and although there are workarounds it gets most of them. VAC is a joke (ie CSGO).

(delectableForge) #5

yeah but what if that legit play (such as you) gets banned u aint gonna be happy they need a more reliable anti cheat then these listed

(novelJoke) #6

If I were to get banned with 100-1000 hackers, I’d be ok with it. I’d just appeal it.

(bushyg) #7

Anti-cheat in Nexon games have something in common with your forum name.

(Harlot) #8

I was under the assumption we’d see it this patch or the next, based on comments made on the stream by Splash Damage. However, this quote from Smooth seems to make it sound like it’s a while out:

Honestly, I’m tired of the excuses, especially when it’s blaming Steam. Every other developer on the fucken planet has figured out how to make things work on Steam. Maybe it’s time to admit incompetence rather than blame them.

Nobody was happy with XIGN when it was announced. And yet they continued on. And here we are today. I, personally, won’t be putting a cent into Dirty Bomb until functional anticheat is implemented and they get people on their QA team who actually play the game.

I’ve lost faith in Splash Damage.

For the record, that thread shows that it took over a month to ban a blatant hacker. The person made a new Steam account and is STREAMING ON FUCKEN TWITCH WHILE HACKING. That’s how completely powerless SD is against hackers. This person was also on a Dirtycups team. This is literally a hacker’s sandbox.

We have to police our own fucken game, and we aren’t even getting help from Nexon. I hate to say this, folks. Your money isn’t going back into Dirty Bomb, it’s lining Nexon’s pockets.

(KangaJoo) #9

Well you don’t usually use two traditional anticheats like VAC and PB since they basically do the same thing. The only reason why leagues like ESEA do that is because they know they’re willing to invest way more money in their anti cheat than valve are so they know they can make theirs better.

I’ve heard fairfight bans legit players in games where it’s the only anticheat being used but in BF4, there weren’t any false positives at least not at the competitive level. This was probably because BF4 also used PB so the FF settings were pretty lenient. It was just there to stop people that were blatantly cheating with programs that hadn’t been detected yet.

(RuleofBooKz) #10

stop asking every day.

(Harlot) #11

Why? They deserve the pressure.

(D'@athi) #12

They started the unrestricted “Open-Beta” with the knowlege, that their anticheat isn’t sufficient.
Any more reasons?

(RuleofBooKz) #13

I get it. I want it. u want it. we all want it - but we are told wait.

So what pressure? You are just whinging. And spamming the forums. The mod yesterday in a thread on this exact same issue said “in game reporting / anti cheat is on the way you cant make the hamster wheel turn any faster”.

take the mods hint, or in this case an “outright telling you how it is”. More threads, more discussion on this subject is pointless, for now.

Why not wait till after the next patch and if there isnt movement on the issue THEN ask again?

(D'@athi) #14

Yeah but they have givin in to the reddit-phantom-whining after one week, so let’s give them a chance, to show us, we are at least some kind of important to them, too. It’s their chance, to not letting us drown like a “whatever”.

(Harlot) #15

[quote=“RuleofBooKz;56736”]I get it. I want it. u want it. we all want it - but we are told wait.

So what pressure? You are just whinging. And spamming the forums. The mod yesterday in a thread on this exact same issue said “in game reporting / anti cheat is on the way you cant make the hamster wheel turn any faster”.

take the mods hint, or in this case an “outright telling you how it is”. More threads, more discussion on this subject is pointless, for now.

Why not wait till after the next patch and if there isnt movement on the issue THEN ask again?[/quote]

Mods have zero insight on what is actually going on. So what they say does little to calm my agitation. Also, we are not breaking the rules asking for it. So, the mods have little to do with this.

Second, look at what it takes to actually get what we want. Multiple polls showing a disdain for aim punch and a forum and subreddit overran with threads on the subject.

We get it, Rule. You’re cool. You go into every thread and go against the grain. 2edgy4me
Just for you I may make a daily antihack thread.

(RuleofBooKz) #16

ur not breaking rules? if they had to make rules to exclude everything whiny little kids do it would be a list that runs for pages.

as for merc change that was not pressure - its how the established process for new mercs works. The only players that didnt see phantom getting a rather big and rather fast nerf almost immediatly on release were the ones who had got him to use in a very cheap fashion and, because they dont know what “cheap” means, thought it was fine.

now they grumble about devs bowing to pressure and the nerf was “unfair” lol

aim punch had been adjusted multiple times for + and - again no pressure.

finally if u think the mods have no insight to give useful info then why make a thread? No one here can make direct action with the devs happen and it was the devs the mod was quoting when they said u need to wait.

maybe if u were not so retarded u would see i dont “go against everything”. Maybe you are just often wrong or silly about the opinions you hold?

(D'@athi) #17

So , ignoring the constructive feedback already beeing given a few hours after the phantom-patch, and then, after a week, getting the heat of the obvious blind (or using to gimped configs?)-reddit-noob-army (sorry no other way to desribe them realisticely), patching stuff, that surely "uber"nerfs not only this class, but breaks the meelee-ability of all classes, is the sane way to go, in your mind?
And you are calling this guy retarded? Hmm ok. It’s a big big world.

(RuleofBooKz) #18

Phantom nerf was fine. melee nerf is fine. melee is even getting another tweak soon so should be even finer.

Again - this is all stuff that has already been discussed in multiple threads multiple times and has been resolved for 99% of the community.

why is it only a few of you guys constantly making new threads about the same stuff thats been resolved?

(D'@athi) #19

Resolved for you I guess, not for the rest 1% of the players, having 99% of the time-beeing-played of this game on their accounts.
But hey, as we are simply throwing numbers around, I guess, they fit.

(Harlot) #20

[quote=“D’@athi;56753”]Resolved for you I guess, not for the rest 1% of the players, having 99% of the time-beeing-played of this game on their accounts.
But hey, as we are simply throwing numbers around, I guess, they fit.[/quote]

Ignore him. He’s edgy and comes into every thread looking for a disagreement. I don’t know if he actually holds any opinions.

And no, antihack is not resolved, as per the threads on Reddit about Dirtycups teams having hackers, it taking 5 weeks to ban them and them just creating a new Steam. Merely saying “We’re working on it” isn’t sufficient. Nor is the current reporting process that runs through Nexon.

If he really doesn’t like seeing the same thread every day he can not click the link. Nothing here is breaking the rules.