And that's why we need forced balance 1-2 times per match.

(gg2ez) #61

[quote=“Pecka;99610”][quote=“gg2ez;99598”]
You got disliked because you automatically assumed that people who see balance issues are bad at the game and honestly, you’re incredibly short sighted if you think that getting better at the game will somehow magically change the game balance because in the end DB still puts experienced teams against unexperienced eams.

Whilst I agree that balancing around levels isn’t the way to go about this, saying “git gud and carry” also isn’t a way to go about this.[/quote]

  • Yes I do believe that majority of people complaining about team balance are lower skilled players. High skilled players are never really playing public games that much. It’s mostly 80% lower skilled guys, 19% mid skill, maybe some med+, and just time from time you can actually meet a decent player.

  • If you are good at the game, you can make a huge impact by just switching teams and helping the weaker team. Yes, just one person can make huge difference.

  • Again, guys, no automated mechanism will make this to work, any kind of regular auto-shuffle will only make the games extra annoying. As FireWorks mentioned there are maybe few things that can slightly improve it, but nothing can just ultimately solve the problem except rented/ hosted servers.

  • If you are a decent player, and see other team doing bad, or having less people, just switch team and stop complaining about DB doing poor balancing job, there is no way for them to solve this, they do not have freaking all-knowing crystal ball, got it?

Once again, the best thing you can do is to improve YOUR OWN game, and be that example player that switches teams when needed.

Really, just go back and think twice about what they could do to improve this? Nothing!
You cannot command people what to do, they have their own will.

So again, Improve your own game, and start asking DB to finally start renting servers to people.

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I’m sorry but I’m gonna be REAL blunt here.

You’re not worth arguing with if you legitimately think good players confine themselves to a glorified stopwatch match, especially is countries with developing player bases.

(Pecka) #62

And you are not worth arguing if you just read first sentence without thinking about the bigger picture :d And even take the first sentence completely wrong.

And btw, yes high skilled players are not really playing public (and if yes, extremely occasionally). This applies for every single freaking game.

Difference is games with dedicated servers, where you might have few “highskilled” servers, but if that’s an objective based game, do not expect an objective team play there.

You might understand it at some point of time, but judging from your posts it’s probably gonna take long, if ever :smiley:

(gg2ez) #63

[quote=“Pecka;99996”]

And you are not worth arguing if you just read first sentence without thinking about the bigger picture :d And even take the first sentence completely wrong.

And btw, yes high skilled players are not really playing public (and if yes, extremely occasionally). This applies for every single freaking game.

Difference is games with dedicated servers, where you might have few “highskilled” servers, but if that’s an objective based game, do not expect an objective team play there.

You might understand it at some point of time, but judging from your posts it’s probably gonna take long, if ever :smiley: [/quote]

Ad Hominem aside, you have a point about high skilled players in most countries but perhaps if you actually read my reply to your previous statement you would’ve seen that I said that your argument is inconsistent in countries with developing player bases. Just in case you’re too non-sensical to find your own examples I’ll provide one: prime example of my statement is Australia/NZ. In a country where the player base is so small we’d have to wait two years for a comp match, you’re not gonna find ANY players in comp.

Wanna expand on that instead of just throwing out a half-assed insult this time?

(XavienX) #64

Rofl, these names and that balancing. But for real, I really do agree, however is this competitive or pub? Because I don’t think pubs will ever have a skill balance D:

(Jostabeere) #65

But they should. Pub is still atlease 50% of the game, if not more.

(Jostabeere) #66

And that’s why we need it even more now:
http://puu.sh/l19vM/b783501a8e.jpg
new mission where people give a shit about a good game and NEED TO WIN. Well done SD, well done.
Execution and the missions for it are pure shit. Consider making missions like “Balance games by switching teams: X”

(Lumi) #67

The best part right now is that execution doesn’t even have a vote shuffle… Disappointment guaranteed.

(KayDubz) #68

Nevermind level balance, this game needs auto balance for even numbered teams like in Call of Duty and other shooters. It completely wrecks matches when 1 or 2 people leave a match and then people refuse to switch sides in order to balance.

(Jostabeere) #69

Noone ever gonna vote in Execution. Everyone need the win mission.
We got rid of winning public missions some patches ago and now SD are bringing them back.
And I believe the feature of getting all mission progresses even if you leave a game will be patched out soon.

(kopyright) #70

I suppose they might have just clicked “Quick Join”?

(Lumi) #71

Noone ever gonna vote in Execution. Everyone need the win mission.
We got rid of winning public missions some patches ago and now SD are bringing them back.
And I believe the feature of getting all mission progresses even if you leave a game will be patched out soon.[/quote]

Yeah that’s another piece of shit they added with this update. We request the winning missions out but their memory is short and now they think we’ll love them…

(M4st0d0n) #72

Forced balance wont solve the problem if it’s late in the game. It will just totally break any sense of objective and teamplay left. There is a vote to scramble. In this case, if it’s refused, you could leave the server and use quickjoin or server list to find another lobby. I’m level 8 and this game is out since a while. I can stand a few vets but I have no shame in leaving when it’s not fun to play.