I really like it, it’s probably my favorite gun. Which is pretty weird since my aim in general is pretty bad with most weapons. At times I honestly feel like its op.
I seem to have a fetish for weapons that are considered bad. Like when I first came to the forums I was shocked to see people complain about weapons like the Dreiss or Blish.
[quote=“madGlasses;151209”]I really like it, it’s probably my favorite gun. Which is pretty weird since my aim in general is pretty bad with most weapons. At times I honestly feel like its op.
I seem to have a fetish for weapons that are considered bad. Like when I first came to the forums I was shocked to see people complain about weapons like the Dreiss or Blish.[/quote]
The reason this is here is not to bash at the Dreiss for being bad, it’s to understand why it can’t compare to other rifles and tends to perform “meh” when a burst and sometimes full auto can do better. Not saying people can’t do well with it but in the videos @Watsyurdeal showed, the person using the Dreiss could have done better with a burst in some situations, and in most situations the enemy had their back to them which is not a showcase of how powerful the Dreiss can be.
[quote=“sgtCrookyGrin;151243”][quote=“madGlasses;151209”]I really like it, it’s probably my favorite gun. Which is pretty weird since my aim in general is pretty bad with most weapons. At times I honestly feel like its op.
I seem to have a fetish for weapons that are considered bad. Like when I first came to the forums I was shocked to see people complain about weapons like the Dreiss or Blish.[/quote]
The reason this is here is not to bash at the Dreiss for being bad, it’s to understand why it can’t compare to other rifles and tends to perform “meh” when a burst and sometimes full auto can do better. Not saying people can’t do well with it but in the videos @Watsyurdeal showed, the person using the Dreiss could have done better with a burst in some situations, and in most situations the enemy had their back to them which is not a showcase of how powerful the Dreiss can be.[/quote]
Yea I more or less agree, the Dreiss is all about discipline, though I don’t think it’d be at all unfair if the gun was changed a bit.
To be honest I wish there were more semi autos, I like high risk high reward weapons.
It would be interesting to see more semi auto weapons like an FN FAL, SKS, MK11, etc…
[quote=“rancid;24248”]Serious question. Something about this gun just feels terrible to me, even after all its recent buffs.
The trade off compared to a gun like the Stark just makes the gun seem totally redundant when comparing the accuracy / damage / scope etc. I can’t even put my finger on what I feel needs to change. I’d regard myself as a very aim heavy player (my accuracy on all SMG’s and rifles floats between 43-46%) but I can’t aim this one gun in particular to save myself, which seems weird because I can aim the Grandeur fine (53% average accuracy).
I feel like I land shots with the Dreiss that simply just don’t register anything. I know it’s supposed to have better range than the Stark and M4 etc but it just feels like it doesn’t do enough damage to me or something, I dunno what. Also am I the only one who finds this gun only useful when standing still? If I’m in an up close battle jumping around it feels like it has an incredible amount of spread or something. The Stark feels like it isn’t affected at all.
Any way this thread isn’t a Dreiss bashing thread, I’m just wondering what other peoples thoughts are on it. I rarely see anyone use this gun, and I think I have seen maybe 2-3 people who are decent with it in my entire 7-8 months playing this game. It’s funny too as many years ago in COD4 my favourite gun was the G3 and I was able to aim really well with that, and the Dreiss seems like the same gun to me haha.
Edit: I also feel given this guns weakness compared to the Grandeur that it really needs something more to it. Like a red dot sight or something. It’s a longer range weapon and the iron sights on this thing are terrible. It feels like they are the most misaligned of the lot. [/quote]
I’m fairly sure that, while aiming down sights and spam-firing, the actual point where your aim is centred on is not properly followed by the iron sights, since those iron sights are bouncing up far too high. Might be wrong though - it’s just what I’m noticing from raw play experience.
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;150709”]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK4vW7gvb1M
Those vids are from way back, before the massive nerfs to the Driess.
[quote=“ProfPlump;151255”][quote=“Watsyurdeal;150709”]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK4vW7gvb1M
Those vids are from way back, before the massive nerfs to the Driess.[/quote]
Check the date, the Red Eye one was very recent
I’ve been meaning to take the Dreiss out for a test drive since last week along with the MK46. The Humble Bundle Fragger card has distracted me. I’ll see about getting some footage up against decent competition and post some thoughts on the newest iteration of the gun.
In the past I always thought it was OK. I’m not a fan of a gun that makes me have to press fire extremely fast as it can throw off your aim just slightly. When I am using guns like the Dreiss or the M9 I wish that years ago I would have learned to fire using a key on my keyboard rather than mouse 1. Which is how a lot of people played in the Quake 1 days apparently.
I played a couple of maps over lunch since I decided to go home and eat. Below is the result of the only full map I played. It’s not super interesting but it does sort of show off the Dreiss a bit with both it’s weaknesses and it’s strengths. I’ll play more this weekend and get more consistent as it’s been months since I last used it and I don’t have a ton of time behind it anyway.
I still feel like it’s a good weapon but I think the mechanics of it is it’s biggest drawback. And I mean that in a physical sense. Constantly mashing on my mouse 1 button to fire seems to throw off my aim and mouse position. The Dreiss requires the timing of a burst rifle and making sure you fire when you’re over somebody (rather than spamming fire) while also requiring the tracking of an M4. Combine that with the mouse being mashed a lot more often and it makes me think that I’d need a lot of time to get used to it.
Also, if you are shooting at anything other than short distances the bloom goes crazy from the hip if you fire at any kind of speed. With ADS you can pull down and easily control the recoil even at a higher RoF but if you fire too fast you’ll quickly lose accuracy which leads into finishing issues (detailed below).
Another issue I’ve had in the past and still had in this video was that if I didn’t hit a person at range with a headshot they would survive. Hitting the first 2 or 3 shots is pretty easy. Getting the finishing shot is what I have problems with consistently while using the Dreiss.
Maybe I need to try and fire it a bit faster and see how the results turn out. Firing at a wall at multiple ranges made it seem like max RoF was just a bad idea. I’ll play more this weekend and hopefully get a bit more confident in more situations where I was pretty timid during the video.
lol XD, the Aura medic horde don’t give a shit about picking people up Amerika!
Hah. That wasn’t me talking. I’ve got myself muted in vids unless I’m specifically doing commentary since I don’t usually say much more than positions if anything.
But yeah the Aura hordes tend to ignore the wounded masses on pubs. Yet when they switch to Skyhammer they will help you up (and die doing it) every…single…time.
#onlyindirtybomb XD
(oh and my god you are rich, someday I will get that money soon, someday, starts crying in the corner knowing it will never happen)
#onlyindirtybomb XD. And dear god you’re rich, someday I will earn enough money to be of that status, someday. starts crying in corner while munching on chocolates
Fair point about mouse1 screwing with your aim - I find the same thing, which is why I think the kill time is so slow.
Half the problem with this guns recoil (even though there isn’t much) is I feel that the recoil and recoil animation are so far out of sync it’s just off putting to the eye. I’m honestly half convinced this gun would be used so much more if it had a better sight and a sight that actually reset as fast as the recoil did.
A red dot sight or some kind of semi scope like the Stark.
It’s by far my favourite gun too. I think it really has to do where (what kind of games) you’re coming from.
I used to be a pretty dedicated Battlefield 2 player, where almost every gun had a fire selector. Manual bursting or semi-auto mode was pretty much mandatory at anything beyond close range. Hipfire was almost exclusively an alternative to melee, while ADS was king. Then I played games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. which required you to compensate a lot for bullet drop etc.
Coming from that, I find the Dreiss actually handles the most like I’d expect a gun to handle, and it handles surprisingly easy at that too. I’m also not that bothered by the RoF drop, as for me the point never was to tap as quickly as possible, but rather to fire consistently and maing every shot count. For the very same reason the Caulden is my favourite secondary.
If you’re coming from a post Modern Warfare 1 CoD background though, it might not feel like what you’re used to at all.
why ppl want old rpm back? you could just spam left click and miss everything, now you can spam left click and be very accurate
@Amerika yes that is a problem, maybe if you could just hold the button, automatic rifle? why not
Because the old RPM made it a viable option.
They have only decreased the MAX SPREAD of the gun which is practically impossible to even reach in combat unless you’re hipfiring mid-air, in other words the “buffs” haven’t done anything to the gun’s real life accuracy.
Also there’s the semi-auto bug which fucks with the firerate even more.
Because you could just work on your first shot accuracy and kill them before the spread went out of hand or ADS and have zero spread, and the TTK was out of this goddamn world. Plus it’s not like the new Dreiss has good hipfire accuracy anyway, they should at least buff it to the point where it’s a complete laser beam.
i love the driess but ive used it so much these “changes” haven’t changed anything for me really 
