Additional Graphics Settings - Help Wanted!

(poiuasd) #101

Texture resolutions have no impact on performance if you have a remotely modern graphics card.

#102

What you are saying is an oversimplification, and only true with very specific rules of measuring FPS.

When moving out of rules of measuring FPS, and taking in buggy code, bad code, specific situations where it matters more, etc, then “things” can happend to the FPS that doesnt make sense, cause its broken.

Also, why do you speak of this, when you havent tried it. FPS boost is given with low textures, even if you have fast GPU with lots of VRAM. Its much more complicated than things seem.

(poiuasd) #103

[QUOTE=JBRAA;535320]
Also, why do you speak of this, when you havent tried it. FPS boost is given with low textures, even if you have fast GPU with lots of VRAM. Its much more complicated than things seem.[/QUOTE]
But I have tried it. I’ve been constantly messing around with my texture values ever since the 1x1 resolution was clamped out.

(Kroad) #104

thinking about it i would agree, I am bottlenecked by cpu so in theory there is no reason this would cause me to lose fps, but in practice this is sadly not true, at least for me. I have a gtx 970 and this patch has resulted in me losing roughly 20 fps (and the first limit to 32/64 also caused me to lose fps) - although it may be due to some other unseen change, all I know is that my performance is worse.

(DarkangelUK) #105

[QUOTE=ARTiER;535276]Well if you think like that the devs soon gonna be the only ones who gonna play this game. You basically ****ed up like 70% of the community, who try to play the game smooth on lowest settings, coz otherwise its not possible to play the game properly/smooth due to the amazing game optimisation. Now me and alot of other people sitting here waiting (not playing the game) for another patch to fix the poor poor FPS. Every patch is stealing 30-50 fps. Now we reached the critical zone. I got below 144 fps on lowest settings. Its about 80-140 ~ around 111 in average. Well done. I bet the minority of players who complained about the “cheatconfigs” quit the game already and this “fix” is for nothing. Atleast I can enjoy silvester/disco/stutter gameplay now. Blood everywhere, my muzzleflash which is covering 20% of my screen, 1 mio tracers bright as the sun everywhere. Oh and the kira laser beam looks fantastic, next time I just stop in firefight and look deep inside it to enjoy the amazing grafix/animation of the beam.
Sadly we have oen/dirtycups.gg with prizemoney cups, otherwise I`d take a longer break from this game for now.[/QUOTE]

I complained about configwhores, I’m glad it’s changed and I’m still here :slight_smile: So you have muzzle flash, so does everyone, at least you’re not at a disadvantage where they don’t have it and you do, I mean that would just be really sh!tty and unfair to you wouldn’t it.

(fishbone_) #106

Actually you can still remove particles (killparticles). But thinking that limiting everyone’s config is a good way, is actually wrong for the competition.

Don’t tell me that you’re ok with having particles everywhere and a game with sh*it visibility ? I assume you haven’t played any competitive games at high level then…

(DarkangelUK) #107

[QUOTE=fishbone_;535367]Actually you can still remove particles (killparticles). But thinking that limiting everyone’s config is a good way, is actually wrong for the competition.

Don’t tell me that you’re ok with having particles everywhere and a game with sh*it visibility ? I assume you haven’t played any competitive games at high level then…[/QUOTE]

Why would it be wrong? It’s a game where 2 teams compete at the same level on equal footing to determine who is better. There’s a ton of games that don’t let you disable all of that and still hold regular comps and cups, are you so naive to think that no one plays a game competitively if they find one that they can’t do this in? I played comp for RtCW, ET and Q3 competatively for years and they were full of configwhores trying to get that extra edge because relying on skill wasn’t enough, was quite pathetic really.

Also I’m sure killparticles will be gone soon hopefully.

(mti_) #108

[QUOTE=DarkangelUK;535372]Why would it be wrong? It’s a game where 2 teams compete at the same level on equal footing to determine who is better. There’s a ton of games that don’t let you disable all of that and still hold regular comps and cups, are you so naive to think that no one plays a game competitively if they find one that they can’t do this in? I played comp for RtCW, ET and Q3 competatively for years and they were full of configwhores trying to get that extra edge because relying on skill wasn’t enough, was quite pathetic really.

Also I’m sure killparticles will be gone soon hopefully.[/QUOTE]

Thats exactly why I dont get what makes you keep posting about this. You are obviously in some sort of distress about former experiences and your name calling isnt bringing about any constructive development. Fact of the matter is that a large part of the community wants more customization than you.

(Protekt1) #109

That doesn’t mean there should not be a limit to the customization. Now there is a limit to make it fairer.

Personally I think stricter standards should be in order, if the game ran smoother.

(fishbone_) #110

[QUOTE=DarkangelUK;535372]Why would it be wrong? It’s a game where 2 teams compete at the same level on equal footing to determine who is better. There’s a ton of games that don’t let you disable all of that and still hold regular comps and cups, are you so naive to think that no one plays a game competitively if they find one that they can’t do this in? I played comp for RtCW, ET and Q3 competatively for years and they were full of configwhores trying to get that extra edge because relying on skill wasn’t enough, was quite pathetic really.

Also I’m sure killparticles will be gone soon hopefully.[/QUOTE]

The thing is, how many of those games claim to be “fast fps” ? Except the Quake series, UT and very few others, I don’t see many games that survived long enough in that area. And configs / customizations are in the DNA of fast fps. I think you’re aware of that since you played Q3 for years.
Customizations and configs just give us better visibility and stability, meaning that players can make better games and actions so it’s better to spectate. You have to think that fast fps rely more on skills, speed, accuracy etc than tactics (even though tactics in DB/ET play a great role). And to emphasize those aspects, bringing customizations is a good thing.

Many competitive players are whining about the last changes. I’ll probably stop playing DB if the devs continue to sabotage the game like this. And i’m not the only one.

(Chux) #111

Seems I need to resort to some old tricks, but where there is a will… :slight_smile:

(ailmanki) #112

Impressive most of you play with color grading on, I wonder if its forced on now?. SD many years have passed on nothing has changed regarding that, is disappointing.

(fubar) #113

rivatuner?

(mti_) #114

[QUOTE=Protekt1;535379]That doesn’t mean there should not be a limit to the customization. Now there is a limit to make it fairer.

Personally I think stricter standards should be in order, if the game ran smoother.[/QUOTE]

Limiting settings that might actually lead to abuse is one thing. Calling everyone who asks for the possibility to tinker with the look of their game a “configwhore” and discarding the whole idea is something else entirely.

(DarkangelUK) #115

Changing settings in the config that gives you an advantage over others that don’t know how to do it or don’t even know its possible is configwhoring.

(fishbone_) #116

You sound different now. Devs just have to make a minimal settings, something similar to Chux posted 3 posts ago and we are good to go.

(mti_) #117

Then others have to learn how to do it or the devs have to make presets for them or, even better, add all the config options as in game options in the menus (which this entire thread is all about). But deciding it shouldnt be possible because you keep whining at it isnt something I think is reasonable. Maybe you shouldnt play all these games that allow for customization of the config if you think its the anti christ, or alternatively you could just deal with all the aspects of a game rather than blaming people for using all the tools at their disposal.
Offering customization is a conscious decision made by the devs and not an oversight that only you were smart enough to identify all these years.

I hate doing this sorta stuff but I doubt Im the only one getting really tired of your attitude:
“Crouch jumping is a cheat. Many people dont know that there is a lot of angles and attack timings that open up with proper use of the movement mechanics so I think they should be taken out completely.”

(DarkangelUK) #118

Why are they the ones that need to adjust? Why don’t you adjust to the fact that you can’t mess about with it? I’m getting pretty sick and tired of your selfish attitude as well, the egotistical comp player attitude like somehow your opinion and desires outweigh everyone elses. You’re a minority, you’re a small group in the large scheme of things and the devs bending to your will is a low priority; being loud doesn’t = large base. There’s a difference between playing, practicing and learning the game to increase your skill than dicking about with config settings to get that upper hand so you can see better than others. You can see people crouch jump, you can’t see someone ****ing with drivers and workarounds so you stand out like a sore thumb in their crosshairs.

They are offering a minimum level config that doesn’t breach what they class as the integrity of the game, they’re doing more than most devs do and you all still cry. Big tough comp players can’t handle explosions and muzzle flash and keeping everyone on a level playing field, getting a bit sick of the crying and feet stomping like spoiled little brats, it’s embarrassing and quite honestly a community I wouldn’t want to see. I hope the ones threatening to leave actually go ahead and do it (they won’t though, the usual bluffing), this delusion of grandeur thinking they’re the be all and end all of this game is tiresome.

(mti_) #119

You assume that only competitive players appreciate being able to fiddle with settings. I disagree.
You pretend that changing settings in the config (to an agreeable degree) equals some sort of cheat. I disagree.
You imply that only bad players want to set up their config because they cant play properly. I disagree.

As to the minimal degree config that we are supposed to appreciate without any further question Id like to point out that this is the very subject matter of this thread yet you run around offending every last person who makes an argument for settings that you consider too low. Isnt having a discussion about this stuff the very purpose of this thread?

(DarkangelUK) #120

[QUOTE=mti_;535422]You assume that only competitive players appreciate being able to fiddle with settings. I disagree.
You pretend that changing settings in the config (to an agreeable degree) equals some sort of cheat. I disagree.
You imply that only bad players want to set up their config because they cant play properly. I disagree.[/QUOTE]

I can bet the ones that do have a competitve history
No one said cheat, don’t be that guy adding words that no one said. It’s an unfair advantage over others if you can see the enemy better than they can see you, no amount of opinion will change that fact.
I imply that players will do anything to get that upper hand, I whole heartidly admit that I think quite a few players change their config because relying purely on skill isn’t enough for them to compete against others. That doesn’t make them bad, just desperate. In fact I’ll even go as far to say that some are hiding behind the guise of ‘more fps’ when really they want their advantage back.