…I mean, yeah. There really isn’t anything else.
It’s like a handful of players are complaining that 2 + 2 = 5. It doesn’t, it equals 4.
- Sniper has no counters except another sniper.
…That’s not true, sniper has many counters.
- Snipers can watch 3 lanes all at once
…That’s not true, they can only watch one.
- Sniper’s OHK is ridiculous and the only class with one
…That’s not true, there are many classes with OHK abilities that are far easier to use
…That’s not true, it’s a completely subjective opinion
…That’s not a sniper issue, because they don’t ruin anything above 5v5
- This game makes you stand still too much which makes snipers too strong
…That’s not true, you choose to stand still in bad places or without your team covering you.
- This game is supposed to be about tracking gunplay not shotguns and snipers
…That’s not true, there are tons of abilities and explosives that completely negate gunplay
- Snipers are forcing the game into RPS counter-play instead of team play
…That’s not true, there are many classes and weapons that counter sniper.
…That sucks, also a completely subjective opinion
So yes, my general response of “it’s not” is entirely accurate and justified. The rebuttal for untruths is simply the truth.
Likewise, people still fail to grasp that a person’s complaint could be entirely justified in 5v5, and completely irrelevant in 7v7. Similarly, some people’s complaints are justified in 7v7, but not in 5v5. But people never take this into consideration. They just see a problem in their preferred mode/team size and assume it’s universal.
I already made plenty of leeway to admit that not only are snipers very strong in the hands of good players, but that competitive not only has mostly strong players, but also such small team sizes that a sniper CAN be overly effective IN THAT MODE. But nobody else has said that or mentioned that their experience comes from 5v5. But since Ranked is -gone-, that is no longer valid or necessary. And since snipers are CONSIDERABLY weaker in 6v6 and 7v7, then said complaint is not justified.
And likewise, giving players that do not like to play with snipers the ability to limit or ban those mercs from their servers IS a reasonable fix for the issue. I’ll say it again; there are no problems with snipers, only a player’s personal experience of the game with snipers in it. If you don’t want to play with snipers then it is not unreasonable to give the players that run their own servers the option to ban sniper classes and advertise it.
Tell me more about the reality of how this game plays, I’m super interested.
I also realize there may be some need for context as to why I care so much.
I’ve played Vassili for many many hours, as well as all the other sniper classes. I know his/their strengths and weaknesses and ways to deal with them from my experience playing those classes. I know there isn’t a problem with snipers here. And it’s beyond frustrating to see, month after month, the same 3 or 4 people complaining about a class that isn’t broken and doesn’t need fixing. I’m tired of seeing “veterans” with 1200 hours whining about snipers when new players are constantly coming into the forums asking “where’s this feature it would be nice” or “here’s a suggestion to make this better” and all of them suggesting ideas that the community has been fighting for for years.
We need custom servers. We’re FINALLY getting them
We need merc limiting and banning.
We need a CMM that actually works well and is enticing to play
We need a consistent SINGULAR dev supported team size. 8v8 is gone, 5v5 is temporarily gone, but we’re still running on 6v6 and 7v7 and you just can’t balance around two entirely different team/play mechanics.
We need fewer explosive mercs and a generally weakened effectiveness of explosives
We need to remove the high amount of RNG with items and reward players more
All of these issues are a much higher priority than snipers. I’m sick of people shifting the dev’s attention to non-issues just because they’re tired of a thing after a billion hours of game play.
Snipers aren’t causing new players to quit. People don’t stick with the game because it’s missing core features that most every FPS has today. People can’t easily team up together. People hate getting quick-joined into a broken match. People hate the fall off of rewards. People hate certain classes (SNIPER RIGHT??) and have no way to find a community to play without that class. People hate explosives spam and have no way to find a community to play explosives limited. People want a Ranked that’s more focused on personal performance. People want a hell of a lot of things, and “fix sniper” is the minority complaint. So stop it, and help us improve the game features first.