Your Rank?

(GatoCommodore) #41

also, pls consider that nearly every game i know (even big ones like battlefield 1, rainbow six siege and warthunder that use matchmaking system suffer from unbalanced match one way or another because people have different levels and variables. Perfect matchmaking can only exist in an enviroment where every level is the same. means, no ranked, no level.

(No_Point) #42

@GatoCommodore said:
nope.
I nope your nope. Because a nope counters a nope. Unless you can actually present an argument, and offer evidence to go alongside it.

@GatoCommodore said:
fake news.
The funny thing is, the people who are first to shout fake news usually are the producers of fake news themselves. Thus this ‘great argument’ falls flat by default.

@GatoCommodore said:
heres how ranked matchmaking works:

you pour players into a pipe like water. Then the pipes has branches and some of them are pointing upwards. to fill water container in higher places you need more water input. what happens when the water input is low? no water on the container in higher places. And then theres low places water container that doesnt need more water pressure resulting filling on the low places water container.
Clicking on a random server on the server browser produces better balanced matches than what the ranked mode offers. And once again, it is not the size of the player base - it is the ranked mode itself.

For example, you are required to have a 1.75 win ratio to go up a rank. That is 7 wins for every 4 losses - not to mention that it is easy to argue that there are in fact too many pointless ranks to begin with. For example, could you tell me what is the difference between the ranks of a silver recruit, a silver agent, a silver specialist, a silver officer, and a silver master? Because as a silver recruit I have beaten teams of silver masters, and lost to a bunch of silver recruits with a few bronze masters mixed in. These are problems that originate directly from the design of the ranked mode itself.

Having a win ratio of 1.000001 should be enough make you go up a rank even if it takes forever. This is not the case, and currently it will only see you deranked after a derank.

As for the multitude of different ranks, if you had Overwatch level of playerbase there would be enough player buffer to perhaps excuse the different ranks. But currently in the 3rd and previously in the 2nd ranked season you had and have silver ranks of varying degree fighting against silver ranks of varying degree. Thus in my opinion you could easily drop two ranks out of bronze, silver, and gold each and have a far more sensible system.

@GatoCommodore said:
if there are not enough player playing in the matchmaking system with the same skill/rank, the system will mix everything so people can still play.
Which once again, is a problem of system by design.

(GatoCommodore) #43

@No_Point

Clicking on a random server on the server browser produces better balanced matches than what the ranked mode offers. And once again, it is not the size of the player base - it is the ranked mode itself.

did not present any fact tho,

here’s why server browser gives WORSE quality match than the matchmaking system on ranked:

  1. no level filter server (level 4 can enter minimum level 10-20 server)

  2. people quitting all the time, making the match become unbalanced
    (at least in ranked you get penalty for quitting)

  3. people playing in more Casual environment
    (sometimes cancerous shouting and screeching)

  4. the pre-game balancer is very broken, if theres more than 5 high level players.
    (On many occasion the game will put all of the high levels in one team and leave the highest level with lower levels on the other team.)

  5. People quitting when they see names/high levels (at least in ranked they hide the enemy’s name before joining now)

  6. the game will start even tho the team number is unbalanced

  7. Change Team Abuse by high levels
    (they dont want to lose so they move to the winning team)
    (and no, its not the other way around)

you see why i called you fake news?

could you tell me what is the difference between the ranks of a silver recruit, a silver agent, a silver specialist, a silver officer, and a silver master? Because as a silver recruit I have beaten teams of silver masters, and lost to a bunch of silver recruits with a few bronze masters mixed in. These are problems that originate directly from the design of the ranked mode itself.

thats not how it works sweetie,

sure, i cant tell the difference between the silver recruit to a silver master,
but i can tell the difference between silver recruit and gold recruit is like a donkey and throughbred horse.

you are in luck because SD gives you partial rank system instead of dropping back to copper from silver if you lost a few games and make you grind hard again.

this system is already good and able to separate players skill without needing to separate the entire playerbase (this happened in the first season) and nobody can get a ranked game.

which one do you prefer? to be able to play ranked and gets the chance to rank up, or not being able to play ranked at all to rank up?

As for the multitude of different ranks, if you had Overwatch level of playerbase there would be enough player buffer to perhaps excuse the different ranks

this is wrong, the excuse of having different rank in DB is because the varying skill height of each player. When you think you are the best in pubs, you might not even stand a chance in Ranked and probably stayed in silver.

the ranks arent there for you to climb but its there to be a marker on how skilled you are
(thats why it should have been score/performance instead of win/lose that are being judged.)

the major problem underlying the Ranked is the very low number of players and even worse there are level 7 playing in ranked
(only less than 10 percent of DB playerbase reached level 20 or something)

(Eox) #44

@GatoCommodore @No_Point You guys are starting to strain fairly off topic now. Please let’s go back on the main subject.

Nothing prevents you two to carry on your conversation through your PM inbox though.

(AspergerKid) #45

@Eox said:
@GatoCommodore @No_Point You guys are starting to strain fairly off topic now. Please let’s go back on the main subject.

Nothing prevents you two to carry on your conversation through your PM inbox though.

Agreed, I asked for the Rank that people got after their first 10 matches and not for conspiracy theories about how broken ranked is

(Noir) #46

We have MIN LVL 10 servers but Ranked is MIN LVL 7 :s
I am done with Ranked and Solo Q untill I find good team mates. PM me, I am french native but do not mind communicating in english.
I am currently unranked, top scoring my 4 already played games.

Cheers.

(FantasticMango) #47

7 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw. Gold Agent 97.6%. Pretty much one game away from Gold Spec.
Ended Season 2 as Elite.

(AlbinMatt) #48

@FantasticMango said:
7 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw. Gold Agent 97.6%. Pretty much one game away from Gold Spec.
Ended Season 2 as Elite.

How hard did you carry? What sort of mental fortitude do you have to withstand Ranked? I don’t buy it, we need screenshots, this Mango can’t possibly be better than the devs themselves.

(FantasticMango) #49

Season 2 was brutal. Days where I would lose a ton of games in a row. Days when I would win a bunch. Got my main to elite and other 2 to cobalt before losing interest. Hardly playing DB/ranked this season, but it’s more of the same it seems. Plenty of games where I duo and have to hard carry bronzes to victory.

Recent games:

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Bit more balanced:

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(Cletus_VanDamme) #50

Pre Season - Gold 5
Season 1 - DNP
Season 2 - Silver Master
Season 3 - Silver Recruit - 3 W / 7 L

3 games vs gold / cobalt, 2 games with newbs, the other 4 were pretty balanced and fun. (One match we had to play twice and the other team surrendered because the server was derpy)

Hoping the ranked experience improves now that I’m placed, I feel confident that I can get back up to at least Silver Master, last season I could top score against golds so I hope so anyway.

Ranked sure is more fun with friends I will say.

(JonBongNoJovi) #51

PS - Gold 4
S1 - Silver Specialist
S2 - Silver Officer
S3 - Silver Agent ( after placement , plagued by 4v5 and surrender monkeys )

Currently Silver Recruit with 11 W /13 L , who says practice makes perfect ?

I’m sure that there is more people playing now than pre season , but the balance feels worse each season , and i’m sticking to my guns saying Placement matches need their own bracket.

(Cgz27) #52

Season 2
3-1-6 into Bronze Master

Season 3
2-1-7 into Silver Agent

http://imgur.com/a/HwlMW ( Just deranked woops :P)

(Chilled Sanity) #53

Wood Specialist because my game plays clunky and my teammates have at most 15 hours

I love it. I fucking love it.

(BananaSlug) #54

@FantasticMango said:

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lol that game, they got stuck somewhere at the end of pushing the ev and they only managed to push more because some proxy decided to run in and throw pancakes at us

(KangaJoo) #55

@FantasticMango You this mango?

(AlbinMatt) #56

@KangaJoo said:
@FantasticMango You this mango?
https://gyazo.com/c7aa49a05097d3ffc2c96168c859f0c2

I’m shocked, that’s actually decent matchmaking.

(FantasticMango) #57

@KangaJoo said:
@FantasticMango You this mango?
https://gyazo.com/c7aa49a05097d3ffc2c96168c859f0c2

No. Started off as Gold Agent and haven’t been lower yet.

(Diosito) #58

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