I certainly think it is a step in the right direction in terms of cosmetics, and clearly the increased dev team have been put to good work.
But I think it would benefit both the players and SD if they made it so either the most popular card was chosen (like the obsidian aura) or we are simply given the choice of loadout. Because that way people are more likely to spend money as they can actually use the cards in combat for their utility, as opposed to their aesthetics.
And talking about that, I absolutely love the merc designs themselves. The only personal complaint being that they seemed to work so hard on the merc design, and not much on the gun skin; it looks like glorified iron tbh.
Anyhow, I think it’s a good sign that you guys are doing this, and hopefully you’ll listen to player feedback on this to help make the game the best it can be.
Cheers for reading 
With regards to the new obsidian cards
I wish there was a way to get the founder loudouts but this is awesome of SD to do something similar and I hope there is more to come. I love cosmetic stuff and if I have the money to buy them, Im getting them.
I am crazy enough to buy those founder skins if they ever decide to release them again which I understand they wont cause of the value they have towards the players who supported dirty bomb from the beginning. I just wish I knew of the game sooner.
You hear me SD. Im willing to put in mad money for those skins
this is why cosmetics and Load-outs need to be separated so you can add and remove the cosmetics you want on a load-out card
And many years later, cosmetic and loadout are eventually separated, but the game is still in beta. LOL
It’s the orange tone on founders that sets things apart.
Other than that, Proxy’s skin makes her a bit more matured (taller?)
But yeah… 2nd generation Patron skins are near their value.
But what about Nader, Phoenix, Sparks?
@K1X455 said:
It’s the orange tone on founders that sets things apart.Other than that, Proxy’s skin makes her a bit more matured (taller?)
But yeah… 2nd generation Patron skins are near their value.
But what about Nader, Phoenix, Sparks?
Phoenix has an Obsidian loadout. It’s like Aura’s look wise. They gave him away free for a period of time and anyone who already owned him got an Obsidian for him.
Letting you choose a card will be unfair towards those who grinded and rerolled tons of times to get the card they want in cobalt.
But I agree that making it a bad loadout that nobody uses isn’t a solution either and I’m hyped to see more skins like that and hopefully they will do something about the loadouts.
so being able to buy a bronze is also unfair towards the people that grinded for a cobalt? lol
@frostyvampire said:
Letting you choose a card will be unfair towards those who grinded and rerolled tons of times to get the card they want in cobalt.
I’m paying with my fucking hard cold cash. That’s how I demand to cut the chase for the best card.
@everlovestruck said:
@frostyvampire said:
Letting you choose a card will be unfair towards those who grinded and rerolled tons of times to get the card they want in cobalt.
I’m paying with my @$!# hard cold cash. That’s how I demand to cut the chase for the best card.
And the person who rerolled 10 times to get a 383 Sparks spent 2 months to grind for the credits and maybe even bought some elite cases to get enough fragments.
I would feel like sh*t if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
@frostyvampire said:
I would feel like sh*t if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
I think you’re forgetting who we’re dealing with here. This game is pay 2 progress, and making people frustrated is the way this game makes money.
@frostyvampire said:
I would feel like sht if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
Sadly, if SD ever wants to get rid of the current RNG-based system, they will have to make some people unhappy along the way… It would be sad if we never got a better system because doing so would p** off those who did it the hard way with the old one
@Djiesse said:
@frostyvampire said:
I would feel like sht if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
Sadly, if SD ever wants to get rid of the current RNG-based system, they will have to make some people unhappy along the way… It would be sad if we never got a better system because doing so would p** off those who did it the hard way with the old one
They can’t do that.
But they CAN come up with a solution that will make both worlds happy. It won’t be a perfect solution but it will be better than screwing the veterans up.
Maybe they can give skins rarities (from bronze to cobalt) and the only way to a equip a skin will be if you own a loadout card with that rarity (so if you have a cobalt rarity skin, you can only equip it if you equip a cobalt loadout card for that merc) OR the default card (the default card will work with any skin so if you can always use any skin you get just without any augments and different weapons)
Or maybe they can come up with a different solution, either way it won’t be perfect but nobody will feel like SD cheated on them
@frostyvampire I have to disagree with that. It would be a mistake for the future of the game to restrict changes to the cosmetic system on the basic that it used to be extremely painful to get exactly what you wanted. It’s like saying that flat screen TVs should still cost thousands of [insert currency here] because that’s what they used to cost when they first came out. It’s actually part of the normal evolution of many products to be somewhat exclusive at first then eventually more accessible. At first you target early adopters who are willing to do whatever it takes to own something exclusive, but if you want to grow your market at some point you have to aim for a larger audience.
@frostyvampire said:
@everlovestruck said:
@frostyvampire said:
Letting you choose a card will be unfair towards those who grinded and rerolled tons of times to get the card they want in cobalt.
I’m paying with my @$!# hard cold cash. That’s how I demand to cut the chase for the best card.And the person who rerolled 10 times to get a 383 Sparks spent 2 months to grind for the credits and maybe even bought some elite cases to get enough fragments.
I would feel like sh*t if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
It seems that most of the complaining about not being able to choose loadouts are the vets (or how do you want call them). Tbh when you join closed beta / alpha f2p game you should count with big changes. And removing RNG is one of these changes everybody cries for for long time. Games evolve.
Okey you would be pissed for a while but now imagine next series of loadouts. Do you wish to spend ages to get your beloved card again? Or would appreciate some more rewarding (better) system?
@TitaniumRapture said:
@frostyvampire said:
@everlovestruck said:
@frostyvampire said:
Letting you choose a card will be unfair towards those who grinded and rerolled tons of times to get the card they want in cobalt.
I’m paying with my @$!# hard cold cash. That’s how I demand to cut the chase for the best card.And the person who rerolled 10 times to get a 383 Sparks spent 2 months to grind for the credits and maybe even bought some elite cases to get enough fragments.
I would feel like sh*t if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
It seems that most of the complaining about not being able to choose loadouts are the vets (or how do you want call them). Tbh when you join closed beta / alpha f2p game you should count with big changes. And removing RNG is one of these changes everybody cries for for long time. Games evolve.
Okey you would be pissed for a while but now imagine next series of loadouts. Do you wish to spend ages to get your beloved card again? Or would appreciate some more rewarding (better) system?
I want good cobalts to stay rare.
Even if I lose all my items. Cobalts should be rare, and good cobalts should be even rarer
@frostyvampire said:
@TitaniumRapture said:
@frostyvampire said:
@everlovestruck said:
@frostyvampire said:
Letting you choose a card will be unfair towards those who grinded and rerolled tons of times to get the card they want in cobalt.
I’m paying with my @$!# hard cold cash. That’s how I demand to cut the chase for the best card.And the person who rerolled 10 times to get a 383 Sparks spent 2 months to grind for the credits and maybe even bought some elite cases to get enough fragments.
I would feel like sh*t if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
It seems that most of the complaining about not being able to choose loadouts are the vets (or how do you want call them). Tbh when you join closed beta / alpha f2p game you should count with big changes. And removing RNG is one of these changes everybody cries for for long time. Games evolve.
Okey you would be pissed for a while but now imagine next series of loadouts. Do you wish to spend ages to get your beloved card again? Or would appreciate some more rewarding (better) system?
I want good cobalts to stay rare.
Even if I lose all my items. Cobalts should be rare, and good cobalts should be even rarer
Okey i get it. But if we return to the obsidian cards. Do you think that a lot of ppl will buy cards they will never use? I would say that cards with optional loadouts is great way to say thanks to community and to make some money of course. Now i am not sure whats worse, card with loadout people do not like or card with RNG loadout where you have at least chance to get something usefull.
@TitaniumRapture said:
@frostyvampire said:
@TitaniumRapture said:
@frostyvampire said:
@everlovestruck said:
@frostyvampire said:
Letting you choose a card will be unfair towards those who grinded and rerolled tons of times to get the card they want in cobalt.
I’m paying with my @$!# hard cold cash. That’s how I demand to cut the chase for the best card.And the person who rerolled 10 times to get a 383 Sparks spent 2 months to grind for the credits and maybe even bought some elite cases to get enough fragments.
I would feel like sh*t if after I finally got a cobalt F82 Aimee I get the option to buy an F82 Aimee obsidian without any RNG
It seems that most of the complaining about not being able to choose loadouts are the vets (or how do you want call them). Tbh when you join closed beta / alpha f2p game you should count with big changes. And removing RNG is one of these changes everybody cries for for long time. Games evolve.
Okey you would be pissed for a while but now imagine next series of loadouts. Do you wish to spend ages to get your beloved card again? Or would appreciate some more rewarding (better) system?
I want good cobalts to stay rare.
Even if I lose all my items. Cobalts should be rare, and good cobalts should be even rarerOkey i get it. But if we return to the obsidian cards. Do you think that a lot of ppl will buy cards they will never use? I would say that cards with optional loadouts is great way to say thanks to community and to make some money of course. Now i am not sure whats worse, card with loadout people do not like or card with RNG loadout where you have at least chance to get something usefull.
Tbh, RNG is better than guarantee bad card. With RNG you at least have a CHANCE to get a good card.
I know both options are bad, so they need to come up with something else.
I think that if you got only a skin instead of a loadout card and were able to turn this skin into a loadout using a cobalt for that merc, it would be a lot better.
So if I have a cobalt BL32 Fletcher and I buy the skin, I can turn my cobalt into an obsidian BL32 Fletcher with the new skin (the skin will be consumed of course)
If I don’t have any cobalts for Fletcher and I buy the skin, I can still use it as the default Fletcher card with the new skin (no augments, default weapons) and then when I get a cobalt Fletcher I can combine it later.
It will be fair towards those who worked hard to get that cobalt.
Removes RNG from the obsidian itself as RNG already did it’s thing when you tried to get the cobalt.
And it also makes it so not all the players with the skin have the same loadout since each person likes a different card. Some like the BL32, I prefer A31 and I’m sure some also like the BL21 so everyone will have a different card rather than all of them being BL21
Nobody is paying for RNG (Expert & Elite Cases); that is why they made these cards. To sell even more of them in the future, maybe give a choice of weapons, or let them release every loadout of said merc. I am 100% certain splash damage doesn’t see their loadout cards as bad, just situational to match the playstyle of different people. However, at the end of the day it is a numbers game of whether the effort is worth the cost, so convince them you really like skins people.