Will anyone convert maps themselves?

(linkin90) #1

Tons of people want the beach map or market garden converted. Does anyone plan on trying to convert either of these (this includes everyone in these forums, I know Splash Damage said they have no plans to do so themselves)

(SCDS_reyalP) #2

Without the source map (which only SD has), it would be very hard to to marketgarden. I’m sure someone will do beach, even if it is against the wolf EULA. In fact, if you look back through the threads in this forum you will find some screenshots from somone who is already doing it.

(MuffinMan) #3

i won’t convert anything to ET at all, why always play the old stuff? it’s the new maps i like most about ET, the new environment and so on, not the features. i really can’t understand why people always want to play beach which is ok but there are way better maps in my eyes, and basically cloning maps shows a lack of ideas imho.

(linkin90) #4

Its not a lack of ideas, its wanting to play one of your favorite maps, or a map many people want. And if you think the map is so old and boring, dont play with a server on it! And its not like it will be overplayed since it is older, it wont flood every server. Also, I thought the kid who has a conversion said hes not going to release it because he just uses it to test things or something.

(MuffinMan) #5

this wasn’t meant to be offensive and i of course play the maps i want, no need to tell me that - what i am saying is that if you wanna play beach then why not do it in rtcw, i really think it’s a pity that wolftactics wasn’t played more, quite a lot of the ET features were in it and so few people played it…
and: converting beach to ET means copying it using some other textures and there are enough beach clones imho, it’s just my opinion you don’t have to share it…

(Blackadder_NZ) #6

Also the gameplay will be totaly different with the extra class and new weapons (notably the mines and Mobile MG42)

(system) #7

No i will not Convert maps. I have more ideas than i could map in my whole life. :slight_smile:

(linkin90) #8

im sorry i took your post offensively, and im sure some of you wont convert it, but, i was just asking if anyone would. I know the map would need some changes to fit enemy territory also, but it would be cool.

(MuffinMan) #9

no problem - what about you? wouldn’t you like to do that?

(sock) #10

It is always a great temptation to re-use an old maps because of several reasons and these are my personal views from when I was a community mapper myself.

  1. Its easier for a start. Why go to all the effort of creating a brand new map when someone has already created a tried, testing and fully working map already?

  2. One problem with custom maps is that they are new and unfamiliar territory for players. Player (I mean clan/die hard public player) don’t like learning new maps. They would prefer to learn/play to death existing maps because they have invested a large amount of time already becoming l33t at them.

  3. Often a map is given away with the tools and you can bet your life, it will spawn countless clones, because, well its easy to open in the editor and change a few things. (See 1)

  4. Good maps require a lot of planning, testing and time to create. Not everyone wants to go through this process and are more than happy to tweak an old existing one.

  5. The map in question holds alot of dear personal memories for you and you feel its about time you shared it with others.

I’m no saint to this process and have on countless occasions taken my favourite maps and converted them to other game engines. I would also like to stress that I did not have the source map either but loved the map so much I converted it anyway. One thing I did learn from this process was that it showed me some cool tricks and kept me focused and not wandering from room to corridor without a plan.

Once you get use to the fact of planning out your map on paper/napkin/toilet paper, new map ideas will seem more enjoyable to create and will often feel and look better. Using existing maps to test with and try out is fine, but don’t expect everyone to be thrilled about it and declare your work as sometime original and cool. Doing these sort of projects is really a self satisfaction thing and a learning exercise.

Sock
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