Why steam is a bad idea

[Mad_Hatter]

I like how every single thread here turns into an argument of some sort.

[BioSnark]

“Why steam is a bad idea” is an opinion.

I’m fine by not using it, I needed it for DoW2 but cant pass the (moar evil) GFWL stuff due to (the summum of all evil) .NET frameworks problem, dont ask me why I cant update my windows ^^

Luckily the series seems to be dropping it… and why can’t you update windows?

[quote=beute;266110]Steam is no longer a DRM.
It’s a platform, a service.

I try to get all my games on steam, it’s an awesome all in one service and I honestly cant see a single problem with it.[/quote]

It is still a DRM program and it has problems as posters have noted. It has enough positives that I find it beneficial if a multiplayer game uses it. Would be much less inclined to buy a non-sale sp game on it because the benefits are largely multiplayer interaction oriented.

[Mustkunstn1k]

You can play SP games in Steam without Internet connection. Also

• Why would you not have an Internet connection.
• Why would you want to play Brink in SP. The game is mainly MP focused.

[Protector]

Steam barely crashes and you can play in offline mode. Get a life Get Steam.

[Auzner]

I like how every single thread here turns into an argument of some sort.

Because everyone likes the witch hunts I catalyze in hopes to expose me as a troll. If I can argue with so many people it must be me who’s wrong, not them.

I can win just by clicking the ignore button

people who don’t think critically and who demand their opinion not be open for discussion. And almost every time everyone responds to my lack of empathy rather than my point.

You keep saying that. You have a real life. You can just click ignore. You have better things to do. Someone forced you to have facebook. If you’re too good for all these things then think about why that’s supposed to threaten me. I don’t join forums for social acceptance, I’m not going to change my thinking just so it makes people feel happy or get a good vibe.

I didn’t explain how you were contradicting yourself because I’m contradicting myself? You’re full of clichés, especially when you’ve just focused mostly on my sarcasm and none of my points. Yes, you did react dramatically. Everyone wrote a counter and you called it barking dogs. Like anyone who disagrees with you gets a negative connotation despite the ridiculous reasoning you have. Religion? Martyrdom? I asked that you re-think your idea and all you have are more allegories.

Does anyone have a real reason yet as to why Steam is a bad idea? Or are we done with tinfoil hatting in this thread?

[Nail]

I’m starting to warm up to Steam

btw, “You’re full of clichés” , he’s French, what do you expect, they invented them

:rolleyes:

[Joe999]

In this age having a computer without internet is pretty rare, especially if you’re into gaming. You’re a minority and are going to have to accept your state.

why would people have to accept anything? people didn’t accept the ubisoft drm and now it’s gone.

[MrX]

[QUOTE=Auzner;266222]

Does anyone have a real reason yet as to why Steam is a bad idea? Or are we done with tinfoil hatting in this thread?[/QUOTE]

I have one.It uses 240-250mb of my ram:D

[Ashog]

I asked nicely and Steam gave me my money back, even though they don’t do this regularly. Nice chaps if I may say.

Hehe, a cheap way to make you their fanboi

I agree with apples here. The reality of this world is, that all things that are good and free at some point, sooner or later, eventually become not free. And I believe it will be more so in the future, as the resources on our planet shrink and population increases. Everyone will be interested only in ripping off his own share of cabbage.

[BrigandSk_A]

[QUOTE=Mustkunstn1k;266133]You can play SP games in Steam without Internet connection. Also

1 - Why would you not have an Internet connection.
2 - Why would you want to play Brink in SP. The game is mainly MP focused.[/QUOTE]

I would have to play offline if:

1 - If I have internet bills late and don’t have money to pay them, then I might not have connection because the internet provider most likely will suspend the service until I pay.

2 - Because Brink most likely will have the best AI in the FPS market

But I will have some drawbacks, all the experience progress will not ever be updated into steam cloud, I will not be able to update the game and surely the multiplayer and coop unavailable.

[trigg3r]

In my case (and im sure others as well) Steam is the only way to get a game as soon as it’s released without having to wait for months 'till it arrives, is also cheaper since i dont have to pay for the shipment. So i love Steam

[Seyu]

I’d say that when it comes to DRM, Steam is the lesser evil. There would be a real revolution here if SD/Beth chose GFWL.

[Nail]

In my case (and im sure others as well) Steam is the only way to get a game as soon as it’s released without having to wait for months 'till it arrives, is also cheaper since i dont have to pay for the shipment. So i love Steam

I thought D2D was available in South America

[Mustkunstn1k]

[QUOTE=BrigandSk(A);266236]I would have to play offline if:

1 - If I have internet bills late and don’t have money to pay them, then I might not have connection because the internet provider most likely will suspend the service until I pay.

2 - Because Brink most likely will have the best AI in the FPS market

But I will have some drawbacks, all the experience progress will not ever be updated into steam cloud, I will not be able to update the game and surely the multiplayer and coop unavailable.[/QUOTE]
Still doesn’t change the fact that Steam works offline just fine.

And those drawbacks have nothing to do with Steam. You still couldn’t get progress playing only offline. And ofcourse you won’t be able to update the game nor play multiplayer.

[Nail]

Steam doesn’t work offline, the game will but that has nothing to do with Steam, and he can progress as far as he likes offline, all unlocks can be garnered off or on line

[Mustkunstn1k]

Nail - Doesn’t Steam like have an offline mode? But in the end it doesn’t doesn’t matter… as long as the game works offline (which it does) it’s all fine.

What I meant by progressing is that you can’t get xp in offline mode and then jump into online with the same character (atleast I would think so).

[Nail]

YES, you can
you can level up offline and take that character online anytime you want

[Mustang]

I haven’t seen anything that clarifies how taking my friends offline files, copy-pasting them into my install and then taking my install online will be prevented
Hoping there is something in place
I wouldn’t want to see “download this to unlock everything” files appearing on sites around the interwebs

[Nail]

for me, the only unlocks that matter are high capacity magazines, these will probably be early so I don’t care

btw, why use your buddies files, just unlock everything yourself offline

[Mustkunstn1k]

Nail - are you sure? It seems like this system would be very easy for cheating.
Like Mustang said, just copy-oaste the files offline. When going online does the system check if the files are valid or something?

This could be even take one step further by just hacking/editing the files.