I ALLOW them…? Interesting choice of words.
Sadly, it isn’t up to me who does and does not talk, ultimately. I’ve voiced my opinions about the game already, so I fail to see how their opinions reflect that.
I only receive about 100 Approval Forms for Opinion Sharing… None of which have been about Brink… You’ll have to speak to the other Speech Moderators about that. 
I guess we’re both not seeing things then, I haven’t seen the PC players say leave the spread as it is for consoles and only adjust it for PC… unless purely to let Wolfnem wallow in his ‘Brink is the best a shooter can be’ universe so he can never experience its true potential.
[QUOTE=L00fah;378902]I ALLOW them…? Interesting choice of words.
Sadly, it isn’t up to me who does and does not talk, ultimately. I’ve voiced my opinions about the game already, so I fail to see how their opinions reflect that.
I only receive about 100 Approval Forms for Opinion Sharing… None of which have been about Brink… You’ll have to speak to the other Speech Moderators about that. :([/QUOTE]
“He who shouts the loudest wins” - I can’t actually remember any of your input, all that radiates on here are the multitudes of posts from Wolf is as many threads as he can about how Brink is perfect, the best shooter in 2011 and how everything is absolutely fine on the console. When someone fills every thread with that impression, derails it purposely and shouts all is well from the heavens, then the actual feedback gets lost and the general impression is satisfaction. You may not have purposely allowed his opinion to speak for you, but it has. (queue literal-ism)
There’s a thread here:
http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/showthread.php/30539-Platform-specific-tweaks-not-necessary-IMO.
Unfortunately it didn’t garner much support. Even on a console, the spread from Brink does feel wonky compared to other console games. Brink has been praised by console gamers as being different than other console games, but I really hope they’re not including the spread in that praise. I know it’s just an opinion, but I really can’t even see the other side of the fence on that issue - I don’t know why people wouldn’t want tighter spread. Keep the weapons balanced, yes smgs should not have as tight of a spread ARs burst fired from medium-long range, but I don’t see why spread can’t be reduced without making the weapons imbalanced.
SD has said though that spread and accuracy tweaks are being looked into to implement on pc, but for consoles they are not able to without a patch since it goes beyond netvars. Since I’m not holding my breath on them submitting another update to be verified by Microsoft and Sony (one that would be free nonetheless if it didn’t introduce new content), I feel like we’re (console players) are stuck up river.
Again that could be attributed to the general vibe given off by the more ‘active’ consolers on here. I could tell from even a few threads that the majority of PC players were unhappy with the spread, where as from the console side there were a myriad of posts resembling “I don’t get that on console” “it must be different for PC players cos I don’t experience that” “I’m happy with the spread, I can take anyone down”. As I said, the loud ones are giving the general feel and that’s the removed a sense of desire, or even urgency that the console players also feel a great need for change.
Brink can never hit over 100 players at the same time on pc anymore. People have moved on.
If a magical patch would come out and fix all the problems with the game I would go back and play it, but without sdk/map tools or significant changes the game would just die quickly again.
I don’t want to be a party pooper but my crashing issues with the game haven’t been fixed at all and the devs stopped replying to me on these forums. This problem was known months ago as well and it still exists. The only “update” coming out from SD are weapon tweaks apparently since they’re so tight lipped about anything else.
I’ve said a couple of times that console players made a mistake by not being more vocal of their criticism, and being too accepting. I’m quite accepting of smaller issues myself, but I’ve always made my desire for tighter accuracy known.
I’ve seen a lot of comments from PC players that say that spread is a consoles thing because its necessary for a controller. I feel like all of those comments, as well as the fact that many console players who complained about spread did not explicity state that they were on consoles, led SD to incorrectly believe that only PC players wanted more accuracy.
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SD has said though that spread and accuracy tweaks are being looked into to implement on pc, but for consoles they are not able to without a patch since it goes beyond netvars. Since I’m not holding my breath on them submitting another update to be verified by Microsoft and Sony (one that would be free nonetheless if it didn’t introduce new content), I feel like we’re (console players) are stuck up river.[/QUOTE]
PC requires a patch for those tweaks as well. Badman said in another thread that all platforms will receive weapon tweaks that will be included with the new game update that features clan support. All that requires further certification through MS and Sony.
The whole point of netvars is that they can be changed without requiring an update. As far as clan support, I’ll be surprised if it’s anything more than a webpage and probably has no baring on the actual game.
Just give me more maps please. I care more about that than any other changes. And have been consistent with that since day one. More maps please.
Weeh weeh
Forget about fixing bugs and tweaking weapons, moar maps '
Cause who cares about the bugs and issues anyway, right?
What an archaic way of thinking.
Just because he speaks the most does not mean he is the only one with a viable opinion and the fact that you ignore everyone else’s opinions based on his incessant and exaggerated praise speaks lowly of yourself.
I don’t feel the need to repeat myself every single time I come on here… Simply because you don’t acknowledge it, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been spoken… And assuming one kid is speaking as an entire community is just plain ignorant.
Let it be said: Wolf is, undoubtedly, a fanboy. And he’s allowed to be so, I don’t care… But he is NOT the majority and he NOT all of our voices.
the tweaks to spread and accuracy that they’ve already stated they’re working on for pc…yes. My whole point is that none of that has been that has been promised for consoles because of the submission process with Microsoft/Sony.
[QUOTE=L00fah;379109]What an archaic way of thinking.
Just because he speaks the most does not mean he is the only one with a viable opinion and the fact that you ignore everyone else’s opinions based on his incessant and exaggerated praise speaks lowly of yourself.
I don’t feel the need to repeat myself every single time I come on here… Simply because you don’t acknowledge it, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been spoken… And assuming one kid is speaking as an entire community is just plain ignorant.[/QUOTE]
Way to totally misinterpret his post…
He was saying that Wolf and his cronies’ constant loud praise and jubilation of Brink in every topic ever made that discusses Brink foreshadows everyone else’s thoughts on the matter making it appear that everything is hunky dory despite others stating otherwise. He never said he was the only one with a viable opinion and he never said he ignored other opinions but when you have the hardcore club derailing every thread going it’s kind of hard to spot the real feedback (positive or negative) from the fanboyish and troll comments made.
You spent 5 lines bashing someone who observed this and barely 2 lines criticising the real problem…
Remember the last update (DLC)?
That’s why they aren’t making any promises just yet, it will most likely come, it’s just a matter of when which is up to the submission processes with the console manufacturers involved. Last time they said it would be out by end of whatever month it was and then they had to delay it due to problems or so with the submission stuff which led to all sorts of chaos on these boards with new threads about it everyday asking when it will be released and such.
[QUOTE=L00fah;379109]What an archaic way of thinking.
Just because he speaks the most does not mean he is the only one with a viable opinion and the fact that you ignore everyone else’s opinions based on his incessant and exaggerated praise speaks lowly of yourself.
I don’t feel the need to repeat myself every single time I come on here… Simply because you don’t acknowledge it, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been spoken… And assuming one kid is speaking as an entire community is just plain ignorant.
Let it be said: Wolf is, undoubtedly, a fanboy. And he’s allowed to be so, I don’t care… But he is NOT the majority and he NOT all of our voices.[/QUOTE]
Oh dear lord :facepalm: I’m assuming you read Chris’ reply before getting to this one… go back and read Chris’ again, just for good measure.
[QUOTE=.Chris.;379125]Way to totally misinterpret his post…
He was saying that Wolf and his cronies’ constant loud praise and jubilation of Brink in every topic ever made that discusses Brink foreshadows everyone else’s thoughts on the matter making it appear that everything is hunky dory despite others stating otherwise. He never said he was the only one with a viable opinion and he never said he ignored other opinions but when you have the hardcore club derailing every thread going it’s kind of hard to spot the real feedback (positive or negative) from the fanboyish and troll comments made.
You spent 5 lines bashing someone who observed this and barely 2 lines criticising the real problem…[/QUOTE]
I wasn’t bashing at all. = / Why is it automatically assumed I’m taking a negative tone? I’ve already explained COUNTLESS times that my responses are typically neutral. This is no exception.
I addressed the issue… And saying “multitudes of posts from Wolf” does not equal “Wolf and all his friends.”
So, no misinterpretation. My reading comprehension that poor.
If that isn’t what he meant, he shouldn’t have said that.
Is this response necessary at all…? Your sarcasm isn’t needed.
But he’s been validated publicly for his opinion several times. You can take that as an empty thank you to a fanboy or a sign that elements of SD believe they’re in contact with their core market and criticism is unfounded. Honestly, I’ve move on from Brink but I’m scared that even if SD learn from this experience and produce a stunning game next time round it’ll sink due to the failings of Brink. We already lost ETQW to such third party reasoning.
IMO SD need to step up or step back but strafing just ain’t working.
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Is this response necessary at all…? Your sarcasm isn’t needed.[/QUOTE]
It wasn’t sarcasm, read it again, and if you still fail to grasp what I was saying, then you have too much faith in your own comprehension. (Chris seemed to manage fine without the need for a walkthrough)
I don’t really know, it’s a mystery
[QUOTE=L00fah;379132]I addressed the issue… And saying “multitudes of posts from Wolf” does not equal “Wolf and all his friends.”
So, no misinterpretation. My reading comprehension that poor.
If that isn’t what he meant, he shouldn’t have said that.[/QUOTE]
Doesn’t matter if he meant one person or many, that wasn’t the point of his post.
[QUOTE=SockDog;379136]But he’s been validated publicly for his opinion several times. You can take that as an empty thank you to a fanboy or a sign that elements of SD believe they’re in contact with their core market and criticism is unfounded. Honestly, I’ve move on from Brink but I’m scared that even if SD learn from this experience and produce a stunning game next time round it’ll sink due to the failings of Brink. We already lost ETQW to such third party reasoning.
IMO SD need to step up or step back but strafing just ain’t working.[/QUOTE]
I’ve mostly moved on with the game. I haven’t picked it up in weeks, honestly… I only play on Saturdays when I host games for the Bethesda guys… But that’s about it.
Hopefully SD’s future games aren’t marred with the stink that Brink turned out to be. It’s a fun game, but lacked their typical polish.
Maybe it’s just that two people lacking basic comprehension and sentence/thought construction were more apt to understand the gibberish?
Hm. Who knows.
/bashing (because I have to spell it out to you now when I am and am not bashing.)
[QUOTE=.Chris.;379140]I don’t really know, it’s a mystery
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Doesn’t matter if he meant one person or many, that wasn’t the point of his post.[/QUOTE]
None of that was bashing. Mere suggestion. The above (read my response to Dark) is certainly bashing. Mostly because I’m sick of going back and forth with you and secondly because I hate the way Dark tries to prove a point…
It DOES matter, absolutely… As that was one of your main points. Speaking about how one man goes around posting nonsense is not the equivalent of saying “him and a lot of other people…”. It just isn’t. Sorry. = /
Can we just end this now…? It’s getting no body anywhere and it’s making all three of us look bad.