Fragger nade could never do that pre-November and it should never be allowed, why the hell would you want to buff the damage and radius of frag grenades just so the tankiest merc in the game could be taken out with ease every 17s?
Do you even think for a moment the implications of a change like that when his grenade presently is one of the most powerful and gamechanging abilities in Dirty Bomb?
Dude, my main merc is Fragger. I know what his capabilities are. The grenades were practically a one-shot kill on Rhino if it was a well-placed one. His grenade damage is 170, the only merc that can survive that is Rhino. Camping in a corner with one of Aura’s healing stations is the one strategy that will give you a win 90% of the time, and that makes the game unbalanced, I’d even say it makes Rhino overpowered.
And yes, I even do think for a moment of the implications of a change like that when his grenade is presently one of the most powerful and gamechanging abilities in Dirty Bomb, which is my I’m not suggesting to buff the frag grenades, I’m suggesting to reduce Rhino’s health.
The grenades were practically a one-shot kill on Rhino if it was a well-placed one.
Except there is 2 loadouts with Unshakeable available for Rhino, and 99% of Rhino’s players use one of them (R93) . . .
[left]nice numbers but you forgot the accuracy
even on close distances a rhino with a fully fired up minigun (-when firing for 2 secs- accuracy, not full spool) cant hit a thing without careful aiming even on close ranges
a fragger / thunder / phoenix / anything else can easily kill a casual rhino in close combat when jumping left and right like a maniac
the “highest health of all” thing is a joke, its just 40 more than thunder and only 200 in total
even a m4a1 deals 124 body-dps while its so accurate most of the shots will be headshots (249 head-dps)
a mk46 is highly accurate in close combat or when scoped and deals 132 body-dps / 265 head-dps
thats 2 to 4 more shots with more than 8(m4) or 12(mk46) shots per second
you are dead before they come in range or before you can adjust to their jumping madness
whenever i play i normally got no medic with me because most of those pub people are to dumb to follow me when im going to “mow the lawn” with my minigun
its still fun to have some 40/13 stats at the end with lots of assists
i rarely see rhinos in pubs nowadays, maybe 1 in 40 matches
they got really rare now because you are dead before reaching the chokepoints on most maps[/left]
I don’t have a major problem with Rhino, unless it is a truly skilled player in which case, they deserve it.
Most of the time a Rhino just holds down one place, leaving the other members of the team 1-2 players down, if you just go around his camp, more often than not, leading to a plant/repair/defuse.
[quote=“ZeSpecter;130747”]Dude, my main merc is Fragger. I know what his capabilities are. The grenades were practically a one-shot kill on Rhino if it was a well-placed one. His grenade damage is 170, the only merc that can survive that is Rhino. Camping in a corner with one of Aura’s healing stations is the one strategy that will give you a win 90% of the time, and that makes the game unbalanced, I’d even say it makes Rhino overpowered.
And yes, I even do think for a moment of the implications of a change like that when his grenade is presently one of the most powerful and gamechanging abilities in Dirty Bomb, which is my I’m not suggesting to buff the frag grenades, I’m suggesting to reduce Rhino’s health.[/quote]
I don’t even know what to say other than if you can’t deal with a Rhino without suggesting outrageous changes on an already highly situational merc, that you have no business of speaking
Everybody here has told you how to deal with him and how he’s quite vulnerable
[quote=“Ritobasu;131036”]
I don’t even know what to say other than if you can’t deal with a Rhino without suggesting outrageous changes on an already highly situational merc, that you have no business of speaking
Everybody here has told you how to deal with him and how he’s quite vulnerable[/quote]
Outrageous changes?? Yeah, alright… Whatever floats your boat.
I don’t understand all the hate for rhino, he’s a super niche merc and he demolishes under those circumstances. Rhino is probably my 4th most used merc and i can safetly say most competent players give me a really hard time even in cqc. Rhino isnt that tough to deal with, especially with mercs like stoker or any of the assault mercs. Another thing about Rhino players, all the bad ones (and easy to take down ones) only ever use the minigun. Taking pot shots at people with the shotties is a good way to scare people and that is truely one of his biggest strengths, fear. Rhino is mostly bark with a little bite if you get too close. He really isn’t over-powered, I would go as far as to say a little under-powered because of his slow move speed when spun up. (Getting chunked for about a third of your life as you go around a corner before you can even see the enemy because your hitbox is so big is a fun time.) I agree that a rhino can be super frustrating to fight sometimes but he is way more balanced than some other mercs. (coughsparkscough)
Trying to make Fragger grenades do even more damage or reduce Rhino’s health is objectively a really terrible idea
Do you complain about Vassili or Sparks oneshotting you when you stand still while trying to peg them at range? I sure hope not
The same logic applies to your situation of a Rhino sitting on Aura station, you deserve every single death you get if you can’t disable the healing and/or try to run in head-on
You hate Rhino because he’s smarter than you and a god damned gentleman. Try having some grace and tact in life and see if that doesn’t help your obvious jealousy.
I kid I kid. But yeah Rhino is fine. A little annoying, but fine. Besides, stoker exists.
[quote=“Sir_Slam;131227”]You hate Rhino because he’s smarter than you and a god damned gentleman. Try having some grace and tact in life and see if that doesn’t help your obvious jealousy.
I kid I kid. But yeah Rhino is fine. A little annoying, but fine. Besides, stoker exists.[/quote]
This. Stoker is single-handedly the best merc for taking out Rhino.
how to counter a rhino
Stoker+Molotov+Timik=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M
I dislike rhino simply because hes as boring as watching paint dry, which is about all you do as him. He sounds so interesting in his bio, but the way he works is such a let down. Would be nice if he got a bit of rework to make him interesting to play.
Trust me you will have a lot more fun with rhino is you incorporate his loadout into fighting and not just using the minigun. Wrecking unsusspecting fools with the arnuld has become something of a time sink for me XD and he is damn near worthless without a medic on hand because of his speed and huge hitbox.
As I’ve said in another thread, he’s not fun to fight and even less fun to play.
Im Pretty new to Dirty Bomb, and i was the idiot that already wasted some money on the game, I’ve bought at least 5 characters now, and the first two was Phantom and Rhino, Rhino has now become my favorite class, and its not cause “Im a noob” or “i have no skill”, its because, out of all the mercy i currently have, Rhino is the class i do the best with, yes, his minigun is super OP and if i play him right, i can wipe the entire Enemy team right off the map, but he is not as OP as everyone thinks, he is very easy to counter, first off, his range sucks so freaking bad, i find that certain maps i can’t play because there are certain points where i must back off, because the entire enemy team has gone Sniper to protect the areas (when I’m attacking) or all of them have gone Skyhammer or Fragger to attack. I usually change Merc, but due to minigun spread and high rate of fire, i have the worst aim with shotguns and other guns (my two other mercs being Proxy and Phantom) Rhino i have found, can be countered, there has been many cases where I’m held down or countered by snipers, and then my worst enemy, Proxy, Ive gotten better at fighting her and her evil mines. Also without a medic, rhino can be ganged or repeatedly hit, dwindling his health rather quickly.