Why change Proxy' First Ed

(BazBling) #1

So my fellow DirtyBombers the title is why i wanted to have this discussion and i am aware that there are many posts and comments already about Proxy being the Culprit of Max Bashkis Murder but i wanted to discuss the Lore or at least a dimension of it that keeps the Storyline on track.

We can clearly see the Date for the Bleak Chic Event on Max Bashkis invite cards:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12376658_968562436526425_8414318010701429646_n.jpg?oh=07c40604185ad71b5dc8a6fc65158b1c&oe=57E219D6

Then a few weeks later:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12990903_984792384903430_4270720894455074130_n.jpg?oh=8d6b9290f207bc9f83e8da7bd2d3fe00&oe=57E320B0

The Good Looking albeit Shit Sniping Elisabeth Wells is disclosed as the Culprit:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13177420_1000707519978583_600975322074099968_n.png?oh=c16c5ad9b3e4dad9c31ef8ea19c22378&oe=57DD60A7

After being hunted down and caught by Aimee, Proxy is now looking a little worse for wear:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13226975_1004264299622905_7620465073876100835_n.jpg?oh=e8f4c4b134a26257f9aef4f7eeb52f6a&oe=57D24D1B

Now, the actual point i am getting at is WHY did you go and change her Model on the First Edition cards as well as her 2nd Editions, i mean surely it would have been much better and make more sense to only have changed her model on the 2nd Ed cards since she did not get this injury until now upon release of the 2nd Editions?

The way it has been changed i think is/will be misleading for any Newcomers to the game as both Editions of Proxy cards will have the bandaged model therefore giving the impression that she was always like this.

I would have much preferred that her 1st Editions were left as they were and only the 2nd Editions onwards have the changed/bandaged Model, what do you guys think?

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dirtybomb/images/d/d4/Obsidian_loadout_card.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150422010159 http://www.splashdamage.com/images/blog/FounderCardsProxyForum.png
http://nxcache.nexon.net/umbraco/1622/proxytiersresized2-border.jpg?width=500&height=497.95709908069455

There is also other cards for Proxy like the Humble Bundle card and a couple of others and i am not sure if these models have been changed or not? @RazielWarmonic @stayfreshshoe

What do you guys think (let’s try to keep this on topic please about the Model change only) thank you.

(YeOldeButtcheek) #2

Every card for proxy has the bandage, but I don’t know about founders, my guess is no.

(RazielWarmonic) #3

The Proxy Founder’s card did NOT get changed as it is a different mesh from the others (AKA, a different model).

All other Loadout cards use the same model, just different skins, and the 2nd Edition Loadout skins are no different from the 1st Edition skins, thus why it got changed. :smile:

(frolicsomeCrane) #4

And now, after seeing that founder card for the first time, I actually consider Proxy to be attractive. Who would have thought?!

(AnonOmis1000) #5

They changed because Proxy’s first edition cards can still be used post event. Things have occured in the story of the game, and now we are playing AFTER her eye got scortched out. So it only makes since that all her cards would now miss an eye.

(KattiValk) #6

I’d of preferred they assigned the old SE and 1st Editions a seperate instance using the mesh without the bandage. It would add variety and be a little token to have an older version of her character model.

(AnonOmis1000) #7

But the thing is that Proxy is missing an eye now. Imagine if we got a few cards where Phoenix still has both natural legs. It just wouldn’t make sense. Her character has progressed to be missing an eye, so it should apply to all her loadout cards

(inscrutableShow) #8

To the best of my knowledge, the loadout cards, in the lore, merely represent the gear that the merc is carrying at that time. So, for example, let’s take Redeye’s G41 and D72. Redeye, for a particular mission, might choose to carry the Driess, Caulden, and the Stiletto(Not sure why he would want to carry the stiletto instead of the Kukri, but whatever). For another mission, he might think he’ll need to do more sniping, and he wants a more spammable sidearm, so he takes the Grandeur, the M9, and the Beckhill.

(TheGreatHoundini) #9

Yeah it should be Event Special Editions that get the bandage.

Again, Dirty Bomb has a lot in common with games like Street Fighter or KOF where characters can also sometimes go through Story/Event specific changes, usually this results in a spin-off where the character gains a new unique model/skin.

It should have been like that (although it would have been resource intensive and means Proxy would occupy 3 model sets (Founder, Culprit, Standard) rather than the 2 any Merc normally occupies (Founder, Standard).

It still doesn’t make it feel right though.

(BazBling) #10

But the thing is that Proxy is missing an eye now. Imagine if we got a few cards where Phoenix still has both natural legs. It just wouldn’t make sense. Her character has progressed to be missing an eye, so it should apply to all her loadout cards[/quote]

Yes AnonOmis she is indeed missing an Eye ‘NOW’, whereas in First Edition cards she was not. So yes it makes sense that she is injured ingame for all to see BUT the First Edition cards should have been left without change as this would have made more sense. To me at least. lol

(grandioseCutlet) #11

I think the basic cards (aka first and second editions) should have the “normal” form of Proxy (which is now with a bandage).

The special cards should be here to show her evolution: Founder with 2 eyes, Culprit with her bandage and then you will have the other cards with her bionic eye.

(BlazinFox) #12

But the thing is that Proxy is missing an eye now. Imagine if we got a few cards where Phoenix still has both natural legs. It just wouldn’t make sense. Her character has progressed to be missing an eye, so it should apply to all her loadout cards[/quote]

Yes AnonOmis she is indeed missing an Eye ‘NOW’, whereas in First Edition cards she was not. So yes it makes sense that she is injured ingame for all to see BUT the First Edition cards should have been left without change as this would have made more sense. To me at least. lol[/quote]

And a DB Timeline exists. If you can still play with the First Gen cards, are you playing the game in the past? No, because you’re playing the game today even. So just having the SE cards have her eye fucked up is even more fucked up than it should be. EVEN WHEN TURTLE IS GOING TO MAKE HER A NEW EYE. “Biomedical Engineering”

(AnonOmis1000) #13

But the thing is that Proxy is missing an eye now. Imagine if we got a few cards where Phoenix still has both natural legs. It just wouldn’t make sense. Her character has progressed to be missing an eye, so it should apply to all her loadout cards[/quote]

Yes AnonOmis she is indeed missing an Eye ‘NOW’, whereas in First Edition cards she was not. So yes it makes sense that she is injured ingame for all to see BUT the First Edition cards should have been left without change as this would have made more sense. To me at least. lol[/quote]

They are called LOADOUT cards, not CHARACTER cards. The first edition cards do not come with a glass eye she can just pop in.

(DarkangelUK) #14

Just FYI, Founders cards are staying as is at the moment, mine hasn’t changed and I don’t think it will at this point.

(AnonOmis1000) #15

I hope they do change it, though I understand them choosing not to.

(CodeAlpha) #16

lets review this post. since gen one proxy now can be crafted with 2 eyes for gen 1 crafting event. why does my humble bundle one still have an eye patch? when its gen 1

(BazBling) #17

@CodeAlpha said:
lets review this post. since gen one proxy now can be crafted with 2 eyes for gen 1 crafting event. why does my humble bundle one still have an eye patch? when its gen 1

I believe there is more work needed to replace the Special Edition Gen 1 Proxy Cards from Bandage back to 2 eyes, this WILL be coming in a near future patch.

(CodeAlpha) #18

@BazBling said:

@CodeAlpha said:
lets review this post. since gen one proxy now can be crafted with 2 eyes for gen 1 crafting event. why does my humble bundle one still have an eye patch? when its gen 1

I believe there is more work needed to replace the Special Edition Gen 1 Proxy Cards from Bandage back to 2 eyes, this WILL be coming in a near future patch.

Yea just read that in patchnotes. ty though broman. this is somthing im excited for my awesome humble ke21 proxy with 2 eyes