Which merc should be the 3rd starter in your opinion?

(AspergerKid) #1

Skyhammer and Aura are our two beloved starters but what if there was a third one added? Which merc should be the 3rd one in your opinion? I think if it would ever happen it’s probably gonna be Proxy since the Wikia claims that’s “she’s the face of Dirty Bomb” but I personally don’t want her to be the 3rd starter. I think it should either be Bushwhacker or maybe turtle when he’s out, since there’s no Starting Engineer and Snipers as starter can’t end well since the game is alrady flooded with Vassilis. Fragger also isn’t a good starter since he’s weapons are shotgun based and we already have the Shotgun based aura…
What would be your pick?

(Szakalot) #2

Bushwhacker

(ThunderZsolt) #3

Vassili
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

For real, Bush****er is a good choice.
Also, plz make Sawbonez the default medic instead of Aura. He is much more close to the “standard” medic in other games, and new players either play Aura like she was Proxy without abilities, or place health stations in really bad/useless locations.

(frostyvampire) #4

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(SaulWolfden) #5

Bushwhacker or Turtle.

(LifeupOmega) #6

Bushwhacker. New players need an engi, and it lets us kill the free rotation and implement a better try-before-you-buy system. The current rotation fails that and forces players to wait up to 2 months to try a merc.

(JJMAJR) #7

Considering that Sawbonez would be a better starting medic, I think Turtle would be a better choice as a starting engineer. Unfortunately he’s introduced a lot later than any other character in the game, so it’s quite likely that he’s going to have to act as a cash grab considering the developers’ predicament.

Also, we got Phoenix for free at one point. It’s not like we would be getting another free class soon.

Why not just lock new players out of purchasing non-engineer classes until they got themselves one?

What the heck, why isn’t engineer + medic the default instead of medic + FS?

(Cgz27) #8

I remember seeing ideas for a free engineer at the start.

Maybe an ‘Specialist Coupon’ given after completing a tutorial mode that teaches you the basics of repairing/planting C4/destroying the EV etc. and lets you test out each of the 4 specialists beforehand.

The coupon then gives you the merc of your choice free, or maybe at a discount.
Maybe a discount that scales with experience.
Lvl 1: 45000, Lvl 2: 40000, Lvl 3: 35000, Lvl 4: 30000, Lvl 5: 25000,
-> Level 7: 15000 -> Level 10: Free!!

(Cgz27) #9

@ThunderZsolt said:
Vassili
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

For real, Bush****er is a good choice.
Also, plz make Sawbonez the default medic instead of Aura. He is much more close to the “standard” medic in other games, and new players either play Aura like she was Proxy without abilities, or place health stations in really bad/useless locations.

Idk how I feel about new players throwing med packs at the enemy more than some already do haha, at least you can tell players where to put their stations and they only heal teammates
(if they know how to press Q ofc lul) o3o

Maybe they should give you a chance to decide between Aura and Sawbonez after completing the medic portion of the tutorial with both mercs to see which style you like more.

PS:

HOly sh*t i don’t know if this was mentioned before but why make Skyhammer and Aura free at all.
WHY DON’T WE MAKE THEM FREE ONLY IF YOU COMPLETE THE TUTORIALs?!?!?!

(Dr_Plantboss) #10

Personally I think that we should get one of each class free, especially since we actually have 4 of each now.

I think Skyhammer is still the best fire support for new players.

I think Sawbonez is a more well-rounded merc than Aura for a starter med.

I think that recons would be tough to pick someone, but I would say Aimee, since she at least encourages a little bit more mobility and less sit-on-your-ass that Vassili or RedEye, and she won’t cause idiot melee-only katana Phantoms to plague us.

I think that Fragger is the most well rounded assault for newbies.

I think the best engy would be Turtle, mainly because I feel he would be a good way for newbies to learn objective play, since they can cover themselves. On the other hand, if Bushwhacker gets buffed, I think he would be better.

(GatoCommodore) #11

@Dr_Plantboss said:
Personally I think that we should get one of each class free, especially since we actually have 4 of each now.

I think Skyhammer is still the best fire support for new players.

I think Sawbonez is a more well-rounded merc than Aura for a starter med.

I think that recons would be tough to pick someone, but I would say Aimee, since she at least encourages a little bit more mobility and less sit-on-your-ass that Vassili or RedEye, and she won’t cause idiot melee-only katana Phantoms to plague us.

I think that Fragger is the most well rounded assault for newbies.

I think the best engy would be Turtle, mainly because I feel he would be a good way for newbies to learn objective play, since they can cover themselves. On the other hand, if Bushwhacker gets buffed, I think he would be better.

it would be nice if SD buff bushwhacker sentry range and spread

(watsyurdeal) #12

After a lot of playing, I still say Turtle

(AspergerKid) #13

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DByj-yIXkAAHxlJ?format=jpg> @Dr_Plantboss said:

Personally I think that we should get one of each class free, especially since we actually have 4 of each now.

I think Skyhammer is still the best fire support for new players.

I think Sawbonez is a more well-rounded merc than Aura for a starter med.

I think that recons would be tough to pick someone, but I would say Aimee, since she at least encourages a little bit more mobility and less sit-on-your-ass that Vassili or RedEye, and she won’t cause idiot melee-only katana Phantoms to plague us.

I think that Fragger is the most well rounded assault for newbies.

I think the best engy would be Turtle, mainly because I feel he would be a good way for newbies to learn objective play, since they can cover themselves. On the other hand, if Bushwhacker gets buffed, I think he would be better.

If the game really changes in a scale like that then Skyhammer shouldn’t be the default Fire Supporter as well, I think the randomly thrown airstrikes have caused enough trouble
I think Stoker is more suited for noobs, his grenade causes no friendly splash damage and also nobody gets burned from a friendly grenade (except in ranked) stoker also has better weapon variety (even though his weapons are a little bit op)
And also we wouldn’t have to wouldn’t have to worry about them not giving ammo to us, they simply place the station and everyone takes his ammo when he needs it (except the noobs place it wrong)

(watsyurdeal) #14

Might as well give us Fragger and Vasilli for free

(Cgz27) #15

@AspergerKid said:
Fragger also isn’t a good starter since he’s weapons are shotgun based and we already have the Shotgun based aura…
lol wait what

While I do think Bushwhacker would be a pretty decent starter,
it does makes me wonder, but with proxy being as fast as she is to the objective makes me feel like she’s pretty suitable as the premier “objective specialist” and the mines are pretty straight forward to use and they, just like the turret, also require planning and reward good map sense/positioning as well.
Also, like you’ve mentioned she pretty much is kinda the “face of Dirty Bomb” :stuck_out_tongue:
Although yea, having another shotgun user as a starter seems kind of bad …

Another idea that I’ve mentioned in another thread is an option to choose between two possible mercs to be free such as Aura or Sawbonez, allowing the player to choose whichever suits their playstyle more.
In this case, we’d let them choose between Bushwhacker and Proxy.

(TheStrangerous) #16

Bushwacker would’ve been a good choice, however I found Turtle overshadowing him at the moment, with the utility provided by his shield.

Only the upcoming balance changes will tell.

(MarsRover) #17

Everyone and their dog buys Vassili at level 4 so recon is covered. Let’s not make the problem worse by offering a free recon for everyone, all the time.

Skybro
Sawbonez
Bushwacker (Turtle won’t happen because he is too new, people paid money etc)

Easy mercs with automatic weapons, no shotguns.

(bazookatooths) #18

An engineer of course, Proxy

(watsyurdeal) #19

@MarsRover said:
Everyone and their dog buys Vassili at level 4 so recon is covered. Let’s not make the problem worse by offering a free recon for everyone, all the time.

Skybro
Sawbonez
Bushwacker (Turtle won’t happen because he is too new, people paid money etc)

Easy mercs with automatic weapons, no shotguns.

I don’t see why not, it’s not like it’s going to really change anything if everyone already buys Vasilli from the get go.

(TacticalMech) #20

I think proxy would be a good choice. Very simple to use gadget, and is an engineer.