Which is your favorite sniper rifle to use?

(Discordic) #1

This is more for players who play Vassili. Which of the three rifles do you like to use. I personally like the stopping power of the Fel-ix.

(Ghosthree3) #2

MoA is both my favourite and objectively the best to use. I have no real desire to use the Fel because no amount of ‘feel’ matters when you only have one shot.

The PDP makes me feel like an unskilled noob and isn’t actually too good anymore without instant gib anyway.

(Edzer) #3

Prefer MoA because Felix doesnt have focus augment. Semi sniper is just garbage and no reason to use.

(Hadouken) #4

the kek-10 prenerf

(Amerika) #5

Moa is the much better choice over the FEL IX. FEL IX barely does more damage, has a slower rate of fire, has 1 less bullet in the mag, has a much slower reload time and doesn’t have optimal augments with it (no focus, no spares). The Moa and the FEL IX both are one hit headshot kills and both require two to the body (unless we’re talking Rhino). So the tiny amount of extra damage on the FEL IX (4 damage I think on body) is inconsequential.

Right now there just isn’t a good reason to run the FEL IX over the Moa unless you just like the looks/sound of it.

The PDP is actually quite good even after the recent no gibs on final headshot nerf. You were mostly going for body shots then rapidly shooting the downed bodies anyway. Getting a gib was just a bonus. You can also hipfire with it somewhat effectively.

(Edzer) #6

Would say this only counts for beginner players. Once you get good with the MoA there is absolutely no reason to ever use the PDP over the MoA, since MoA headshots always instagib.

(kAndyREW) #7

if this helps, i did a comparison between the moa n felix a while back

(Amerika) #8

Would say this only counts for beginner players. Once you get good with the MoA there is absolutely no reason to ever use the PDP over the MoA, since MoA headshots always instagib.[/quote]

You should see my PDP and Moa vids. PDP has also seen some pretty high end use in Dirty Cups also.

(GildedDark) #9

I love the PDP I used the Felix but wanted something different to try so I got the PDP and I REK with it
and partly wanted to train with it for Aimee :3

(RyePanda) #10

[Redacted] Thanks for correcting me.

(Alchimi) #11

I was about to make a same thread about the sniper rifles, but was forcing myself to test them again ingame before…

Whatever I do, I keep coming back to the MOA. The felix is just too darn slooooow and has a long reload time and smaller mag. The PDP… well, having a sniper rifle that doesn’t one shot in the head sums it all. Plus it’s recoil his horrible and the dmg/shot ain’t really nice…

The only thing that finds me using some time the felix is the 20% more range perk to the sensor. And that’s all. And even so I’ll still rather go with the MOA. It’s the really the best imho. Gets the job done.

It’s too bad, actually. There should be more difference between the sniper’s primary. Dunno how they could balance the change but it would be nice to have some reasons to choose between one primary.
Plus a slight redesign of the PDP might be nice. I understand that semi-auto sniper rifles should be very carefully tweaked in fear of having a very OP weapon, but right now it’s useless, (at least for me)

(@Amerika, I should check your vids, I’m curious to see what you did with the PDP…)

(Amerika) #12

[quote=“RyePanda;56027”][quote=“Amerika;55915”]Moa is the much better choice over the FEL IX. FEL IX barely does more damage, has a slower rate of fire, has 1 less bullet in the mag, has a much slower reload time and doesn’t have optimal augments with it (no focus, no spares). The Moa and the FEL IX both are one hit headshot kills and both require two to the body (unless we’re talking Rhino). So the tiny amount of extra damage on the FEL IX (4 damage I think on body) is inconsequential.

Right now there just isn’t a good reason to run the FEL IX over the Moa unless you just like the looks/sound of it.
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Actually, the FEL-IX can one shot headshot a Fragger but the Moa can’t. Though I prefer the Moa too.
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Incorrect. The Moa does 75 damage and double that is 150 which is Fraggers HP. If a merc had 151 or more HP then the Moa would not kill them in a headshot. But it most DEFINITELY kills Fraggers in one shot. The FEL IX does 79 damage on a body shot so it’s only 158 on HS so even if a merc had more HP than Fragger they would have 160 or more…still making the FEL IX a bad choice.

@Alchimi They are just a full Obj game in pubs so they are not commentated (you can hear people in the stream I play in a lot though) so they aren’t frag videos…but they show off what can be done with classes pretty well in a realistic non-frag video way. PDP video and [url=“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__XuSMtbO-U”]MOA video. I’m eventually going to have something up that shows off, in a casual pub setting, how pretty much every merc and gun (at least the good ones) can be played effectively.

(Alchimi) #13

@Amerika Nice vids :slight_smile:
Yeah the best way for PDP seems to play it as a medium long range assault rifle… I’ll give it yet another try. I’ll see if I can get around it or if the MOA is just plain better for me.

(Amerika) #14

[quote=“Alchimi;56334”]@Amerika Nice vids :slight_smile:
Yeah the best way for PDP seems to play it as a medium long range assault rifle… I’ll give it yet another try. I’ll see if I can get around it or if the MOA is just plain better for me.[/quote]

Yup. Abuse how accurate it is even at short range. Also, I am of the opinion that no matter which rifle that is used make sure you have a machine pistol secondary (I like the mp400 but the Tolen is also good). You can see, especially in the Moa vid, just how good it is in a lot of situations.

(Alchimi) #15

Oh yeah, with Vassili I allways go for the MP400 secondary. Best one imho for Vassili.

(cornJester) #16

[quote=“Amerika;56124”][quote=“RyePanda;56027”][quote=“Amerika;55915”]Moa is the much better choice over the FEL IX. FEL IX barely does more damage, has a slower rate of fire, has 1 less bullet in the mag, has a much slower reload time and doesn’t have optimal augments with it (no focus, no spares). The Moa and the FEL IX both are one hit headshot kills and both require two to the body (unless we’re talking Rhino). So the tiny amount of extra damage on the FEL IX (4 damage I think on body) is inconsequential.

Right now there just isn’t a good reason to run the FEL IX over the Moa unless you just like the looks/sound of it.
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Actually, the FEL-IX can one shot headshot a Fragger but the Moa can’t. Though I prefer the Moa too.
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Incorrect. The Moa does 75 damage and double that is 150 which is Fraggers HP. If a merc had 151 or more HP then the Moa would not kill them in a headshot. But it most DEFINITELY kills Fraggers in one shot. The FEL IX does 79 damage on a body shot so it’s only 158 on HS so even if a merc had more HP than Fragger they would have 160 or more…still making the FEL IX a bad choice.[/quote]
If the FEL-IX had 80 damage that would be enough to one shot Thunder when he comes out, so IMO they should buff it to that and when he is released it’ll have a clear purpose over the MoA.

(Edzer) #17

Would say this only counts for beginner players. Once you get good with the MoA there is absolutely no reason to ever use the PDP over the MoA, since MoA headshots always instagib.[/quote]

You should see my PDP and Moa vids. PDP has also seen some pretty high end use in Dirty Cups also.[/quote]

Still feel like the instagib from the MoA is still too good to pass on. You basically have the same killtime for multiple enemies however the instagib making a bigger difference with its instagib. Also have a cobalt version of the PDP P13 loadout so I have played a fair bit of PDP since I really wanted to make the cobalt worth it T_T.

P.S. Share the link next time, had to manually find it :stuck_out_tongue:

(Amerika) #18

[quote=“cornJester;56431”][quote=“Amerika;56124”][quote=“RyePanda;56027”][quote=“Amerika;55915”]Moa is the much better choice over the FEL IX. FEL IX barely does more damage, has a slower rate of fire, has 1 less bullet in the mag, has a much slower reload time and doesn’t have optimal augments with it (no focus, no spares). The Moa and the FEL IX both are one hit headshot kills and both require two to the body (unless we’re talking Rhino). So the tiny amount of extra damage on the FEL IX (4 damage I think on body) is inconsequential.

Right now there just isn’t a good reason to run the FEL IX over the Moa unless you just like the looks/sound of it.
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Actually, the FEL-IX can one shot headshot a Fragger but the Moa can’t. Though I prefer the Moa too.
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Incorrect. The Moa does 75 damage and double that is 150 which is Fraggers HP. If a merc had 151 or more HP then the Moa would not kill them in a headshot. But it most DEFINITELY kills Fraggers in one shot. The FEL IX does 79 damage on a body shot so it’s only 158 on HS so even if a merc had more HP than Fragger they would have 160 or more…still making the FEL IX a bad choice.[/quote]
If the FEL-IX had 80 damage that would be enough to one shot Thunder when he comes out, so IMO they should buff it to that and when he is released it’ll have a clear purpose over the MoA.
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The FEL IX originally did 80 damage up until a few months ago. However, this allowed it to 1 shot Aura with a body shot (it would do this to Sparks today as well) which people did not like. So it was nerfed to 79 damage.[quote=“EdSir;56473”][quote=“Amerika;55926”][quote=“EdSir;55921”][quote=“Amerika;55915”]The PDP is actually quite good even after the recent no gibs on final headshot nerf. You were mostly going for body shots then rapidly shooting the downed bodies anyway. Getting a gib was just a bonus. You can also hipfire with it somewhat effectively.[/quote]

Would say this only counts for beginner players. Once you get good with the MoA there is absolutely no reason to ever use the PDP over the MoA, since MoA headshots always instagib.[/quote]

You should see my PDP and Moa vids. PDP has also seen some pretty high end use in Dirty Cups also.[/quote]

Still feel like the instagib from the MoA is still too good to pass on. You basically have the same killtime for multiple enemies however the instagib making a bigger difference with its instagib. Also have a cobalt version of the PDP P13 loadout so I have played a fair bit of PDP since I really wanted to make the cobalt worth it T_T.

P.S. Share the link next time, had to manually find it :P[/quote]

I embedded the videos in the words Moa and PDP. Notice how they are yellow? They are hyperlinks that go to the videos :slight_smile:

And the PDP did get that nerf just last week and my video still shows the PDP gibbing. But it wasn’t a huge nerf IMO due to how you typically fire the weapon.

(Edzer) #19

You didn’t link them in the post you replied me with, you wrote it in a later post. Didn’t notice either way until you just told me though.

I actually think the instagib nerf did really hit the PDP hard, while you can instagib multiple enemies with a single shot of the MoA you need multiple shots from the semi to just get them down while they can just be revived again. But yeah might be a preferred playstyle thingy then since you play a bit more defensive with the MoA usually.

I can’t do stuff like this with the PDP though…
[spoiler]http://puu.sh/jhKrB/95ea7e4d52.jpg[/spoiler]

(Amerika) #20

I prefer the Moa too. My point was the PDP is very effective when used in the right way so it’s definitely not a terrible choice. Most people try to sit back and play back of the lines sniper with it and that’s just the wrong way to go. I don’t even play that way with the Moa (nor does any good Vassili). The PDP has also been proven in competition as well by a few people. A person who lacks the ability to consistently headhunt with the Moa might still have great tracking that would make them effective with the PDP.

Your SS is from a SW match and not Obj…74 kills is rubbish!!! Do 100+ kills on SW then we’re talking :slight_smile: <3