Seriously… @stayfreshshoe could you chime in?
If casual match making is casual, why am I being penalized because I wanted to drop from a game in which I was carrying my team, getting no help, and never being revived?
I literally have a 24 hr penalty because I dropped from one game today.
The devs need to make casual match making really casual. Why does it play like Ranked-lite?
24h penalty sounds like a bug more than anything. Perhaps poke the megathread?
And I honestly see a bloody good reason for having some penalties in CMM too. Really annoying to stay one person down for good couple of minutes just because some basement dweller can’t contain their rage in multiple matches in a row and just keep on quitting until they find one where they get carried and win the match, instead of sticking in a game and trying their darnest for once.
I’m not saying someone remembering they had laundry machine on and had to leave once, someone who just simply found that one particular match so unfun they quit, or anything of such severity, should receive major penalties. But penalties are indeed good to keep in place for repeat offenders who simply don’t seem to be able to finish a single match they seem to be on losing side of.
Penalties should not be given in a CASUAL game mode. Save that for Ranked. In a casual mode, people should be able to freely join and leave games.
And considering how server browser is less used, and the devs are actively trying to kill off Objective mode in Server Browser, if there will be penalties for leaving a CMM match, then wouldn’t this just prevent players from playing their preferred game mode at all?
Agreed, we won the game so I left as it ended, got my credits for the win now I cant get back in till who knows when cause am penalize… Fix the ASAP
@KayDubz said:
– if there will be penalties for leaving a CMM match, then wouldn’t this just prevent players from playing their preferred game mode at all?
No, because simply: don’t make a bloody habit of quitting games constantly. Like I said above, its casual so sure leaving once or thrice in is no biggie, people have stuff to do and places to be. Sometimes match can just be so bad (obnoxious people, bad balance, whatever) that one doesn’t want to stay. That’s acceptable, no need to grit your teeth in for a game.
However you do realize how badly you’re, bluntly put, fucking over 5 other people if you keep regularly leaving matches you just for whatever arbitrary reason “don’t feel like” playing all of a sudden. Heck, you’re even screwing over more people than that because its not unlikely that opposite side might’ve had wanted a fair match, not a 6v5 stomp even if its for their benefit. Backfilling is not instantaneous.
-Didn’t get the first objective done as Attacker in 20 seconds? “Meh, bad team muzt quit”.
-Check steam profiles and see one person on opposite side with +2k hours? “omg not gonna play, muh w/l ratio”
This is legit the bullshit I see people pulling out there in pubs on regular basis, exactly those who keep on quitting games. I find it really hard to understand your logic of “if people aren’t allowed to constantly keep quitting matches, then wouldn’t this just prevent them from playing their preferred mode at all”. Like sheeshus, is constant quitting even playing in any sense?
Bontsa,
The point is penalizing in casual, when CASUAL is the only mode with Objective in the USA…and the fact that US servers are starting to dry up. If you penalize people for dropping matches in CASUAL…you are thereby banning people from playing the game.
Dont call the mode casual then. Either that or the devs need to stop taking measures to kill off server browser use in the US region.
@watsyurdeal said:
There’s actually penalties???
My sentiments exactly. I didnt play much last night because of that. I wasn’t going to play high ping in UK servers just to get in a Objective match.
Good thing I just bought a Humble Bundle full of new games though. Oh well.
I stopped playing Casual when I got matched with people playing the game like it was Counter Strike. Both teams were so laughably bad I swear to God I was playing with bots.
I think I have a recording of it, I’ll try to get it up soon.
This is my entire problem with CMM and why I haven’t played a match in weeks with that crap. It’s just not casual in any sense of the word. Give me server browser stopwatch any day.
All they did was copy and paste ranked to CMM. CMM is just ranked without rewards pretty much.
I don’t get OP’s situation. Either you are playing “casually” and don’t care about winning, so why leave? Or you care and must accept that sometimes you loose because your team is worse, for various reasons. You can’t really object getting penalized for leaving your team, because some of them are just like you - they want to win.
@ImSploosh said:
All they did was copy and paste ranked to CMM. CMM is just ranked without rewards pretty much.
Yeah, exactly like ranked.
@MarsRover said:
I don’t get OP’s situation. Either you are playing “casually” and don’t care about winning, so why leave? Or you care and must accept that sometimes you loose because your team is worse, for various reasons. You can’t really object getting penalized for leaving your team, because some of them are just like you - they want to win.@ImSploosh said:
All they did was copy and paste ranked to CMM. CMM is just ranked without rewards pretty much.
- 6v6
- no FF
- backfill
- Obj
Yeah, exactly like ranked.
Just a different gamemode with backfill pretty much. 6v6, 5v5, feels the same. You get a shit teammate and your team becomes much more handicapped unlike in 7v7 or 8v8. Annoying wait times, not able to play with the same people 2 games in a row, can’t pick your subregion, etc. Overall, it just doesn’t feel casual. Anyways, it’s the text popups and stuff like that, copied over from ranked. They may have patched it though, idk, I refuse to play CMM lol.
if you make the game mode shit, it makes sense you shouldnt play it. Keeps your shit out.
its not like you are banned from the game, there is the server browser. Why do you play a game mode that you don’t like? Why sabotage it for those that do like it.
Drop in/out is all well and good in other games, but in DB even a few minutes of a player down is usually a steamrolled objective, or even the whole map.
Yeah, I came back with new update, waited minute in queue then just went to serverbrowser, saw only stopwatch, got annoyed, went back to casual, ended up with trolls, left, wanted to play again, couldn’t. So booted back my linux and had some fun with real Terminal (if u know what i mean)
@Szakalot said:
if you make the game mode @$!#, it makes sense you shouldnt play it. Keeps your @$!# out.its not like you are banned from the game, there is the server browser. Why do you play a game mode that you don’t like? Why sabotage it for those that do like it.
Drop in/out is all well and good in other games, but in DB even a few minutes of a player down is usually a steamrolled objective, or even the whole map.
I think one of the biggest problems is that they removed Execution, left only Stopwatch in the server browser, so people don’t really have much of a choice but to play CMM even if they don’t like it. Stopwatch lasts forever most of the time. Objective lasts long enough to be fun and exciting, but not long enough to get boring. I rarely played Stopwatch when Obj was in the server browser. Sadly, that’s what I’m stuck playing now that Obj is gone.
It would be great if they left Obj in the server browser and put Stopwatch in CMM so they could better prepare people for Ranked or whatever. Plus, we lost out on a lot of possible credits when they implemented this crap daily rewards system so now missions are the main option, which means you’ll need to play Obj to earn credits at a decent rate. :’(
@MarsRover said:
I don’t get OP’s situation. Either you are playing “casually” and don’t care about winning, so why leave? Or you care and must accept that sometimes you loose because your team is worse, for various reasons. You can’t really object getting penalized for leaving your team, because some of them are just like you - they want to win.@ImSploosh said:
All they did was copy and paste ranked to CMM. CMM is just ranked without rewards pretty much.
- 6v6
- no FF
- backfill
- Obj
Yeah, exactly like ranked.
If Im carrying the team, getting zero help, and not having fun, I shouldnt be forced to waste the bit of time I have for gaming on a _ casual _ match.
But hey, if the devs want to penalize people in casual games and cut and paste aspects of Ranked over into the Casual side of DB…I have new games I just purchased that I can spend time with.
Im pretty sick of feeling like the devs are forcing bad features upon me. First Objective was removed from server browser…now Im forced to play through bad/un-fun matches in CASUAL if I want to play Objective for an extended period of time.
Here’s my solution. Ill just go AFK from now on instead of quitting a casual match. Devs shouldnt call it casual if there’s a penalty for wanting to leave a match for a different one.
@Szakalot said:
if you make the game mode @$!#, it makes sense you shouldnt play it. Keeps your @$!# out.its not like you are banned from the game, there is the server browser. Why do you play a game mode that you don’t like? Why sabotage it for those that do like it.
Drop in/out is all well and good in other games, but in DB even a few minutes of a player down is usually a steamrolled objective, or even the whole map.
Where do I play Objective mode in server browser for the USA? I cant because they removed it. They are forcing us to play Objective through CMM with freaking penalties.
If the devs wanna do that just get ranked back open again more quickly. I shouldnt have to deal with freaking penalties outside of Ranked (you know, the mode with real rewards and higher skill ceiling)
