What performance to expect

(suntox) #1

I’m pretty suprised about the low performance in brink. I got a core2quad@3.6ghz with 4 gigs of ddr2 ram and a gtx570 on a 1920x1080 monitor.

I get 35 to 65 fps most of the time. i know the idtech4 engine is clunky and heavy, but for the mapsizes and grafics i would expect at least 60 to 90 if not 90 to 120 fps with my system.

My gpu load is about 30% and my cpu load about 60% (no single core ever above 75% load) while playing brink.

No other game has performance issues for me. so the fault is defenitely with brink. i already reinstalled brink, had lots of different drivers and tried disabling lots of stuff.

Before i played brink on same system but with a gtx295 which had similar performance.

Shouldnt i expect a lot more fps then 35 to 60 fps?

edit: got the game with preorder btw, and do love the gameplay. first i thought maybe its because of sli, but now im running without it and performance still sucks.

(Nail) #2

turn off vsync ?

(suntox) #3

funny idea, playing a shooter with vsync on. i know some ppl actualy do that, but i dont. i dont realy like mouse-/inputlag :wink: but thanks for the suggestion

(Slade05) #4

So, you prefer tearing.

(suntox) #5

no one who takes shooters seriously plays with vsync on. all sorts of inputlag add up. and mouselag/inputlag doesnt only mean the mouse reacts slower, you actualy see things later. even in a game with lag compensation you got to lead with hitscan weapons in a worst case scenario then.

plus tearing is basicaly a non issue most of the time as you dont realy see it with abrubt camera movements anyway. its not like you would do a slow panoramic sweep enjoying the landscape :wink:

on the other hand if you play a shooter where you only got 30 fps average, it doesnt realy matter anyway. shouldnt play it in first place, should rather choose an older shooter which runs with stable 60 fps at least. or preferably 60+ fps (120 if possible) on a 120hz monitor (still without vsync obviously).

thanks for the bump :wink:

(suntox) #6

no one got similar spec and knows his min fps plz?

(aviynw) #7

Surprised its quite so low. I had had a gtx 270, a 2.6 ghz quad intel core i7 cpu, and six gigs of ram, and I think it would usually stay above 60. though in intense firefights it would drop below that. Don’t think quite as low as 35 fps though

But yeah, form my experience the game runs terrible on powerful hardware. I really don’t understand why. You can view an old thread I made about this here http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/showthread.php/27894-Can-t-get-much-better-than-60-fps-no-matter-what-I-do?p=327955#post327955

I upgraded from a gtx 270 to a gtx 590 and I think maybe average fps increased by 15 fps…lol…also, halving the resolution also only makes a slight difference…

(suntox) #8

Thanks. Thats a pity. When i had the gtx295 i usualy only dropped to 45 fps, which kind of sucks too but can be ignored when the game is fun. Now with the slightly more powerful gtx570 i drop down clear to 35 regularely. Which cant be ignored, thats just too low for a shooter. Not to mention that it kinda sucks to have less then 60 fps when a 120hz monitor is waiting to be fed.

I realy wish they would have stuck with idtech3. Its not a coincidence that unreal overtook id with licences cause most ppl didnt want idtech4. And fps are more important then eyecandy in a shooter. I think SD makes the best shooters, but on the technical side they extremely messed up this time :frowning:

ETQW was so lovely optimized, compared to that brink seems pretty much antioptimized. Almost seems like sabotage.

Oh well, i will keep checking. Maybe one day there will be a fix.

(GrindedStone) #9

Turn the settings down.
Brink Configurator 1.5

(Ruben0s) #10

no one who takes shooters seriously plays with vsync on. all sorts of inputlag add up. and mouselag/inputlag doesnt only mean the mouse reacts slower, you actualy see things later. even in a game with lag compensation you got to lead with hitscan weapons in a worst case scenario then.

shooters seriously… brink??? what the duck
I can’t remember taking a shooter seriously.

Shouldnt i expect a lot more fps then 35 to 60 fps?

on the other hand if you play a shooter where you only got 30 fps average, it doesnt realy matter anyway. shouldnt play it in first place, should rather choose an older shooter which runs with stable 60 fps at least. or preferably 60+ fps (120 if possible) on a 120hz monitor (still without vsync obviously).

Seriously wondering why you still play brink while you say this.
I suggest you need to play an older game :$$

(aviynw) #11

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(suntox) #12

[QUOTE=GrindedStone;387454]Turn the settings down.
Brink Configurator 1.5[/QUOTE]

so my cpu load is 60% and my gpu load 30% and you think turning down the settings will solve my problem? :smiley:

doesnt sound very logical, but i’ll have a look some time if this configurator can do anything my autoexec.cfg can’t.

i’d say thanks, but i see some insult has been removed :wink:

(suntox) #13

[QUOTE=Ruben0s;387463]shooters seriously… brink??? what the duck
I can’t remember taking a shooter seriously.

Seriously wondering why you still play brink while you say this.
I suggest you need to play an older game :$$[/QUOTE]

Seems not only the game has problems, some ppl on the forums here too :slight_smile:

Brink’s gameplay is fantastic, its in fact one of the best thought through shooters, the logical next step in many aspects. A lot of the kiddie crap that gives skill free kills which is so popular nowadays has been removed. Unfortunately paired with horrible performance.

I dont play brink much cause of the fps problems, that’s why i’m here bothering talking to you. Although i must admit i’m enjoying myself here too :smiley:

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(aviynw) #14

[QUOTE=suntox;387497]so my cpu load is 60% and my gpu load 30% and you think turning down the settings will solve my problem? :smiley:

doesnt sound very logical, but i’ll have a look some time if this configurator can do anything my autoexec.cfg can’t.

i’d say thanks, but i see some insult has been removed ;)[/QUOTE]

Reducing the settings does help a bit, but not nearly as much as you’d expect, and not nearly enough to justify it, even if you are frames per second obsessed. I don’t understand why more than quartering the pixel count doesn’t get you significant improvements. It does in other games I’ve tried. In brink, more than quartering the pixel count makes my fps improve from maybe an average of 75 to an average of 85. I get similar results when changing the other settings.

(Nail) #15

Brink seems to want a very clean background, just about anything running in the background will affect performance

(suntox) #16

yep, i made a “good” autoexec.cfg already turning off everything long time ago, but the effect was totaly negligable. it did look like the load decreased a bit though :smiley: kind of strange.

either the cpu or the gpu should be above 90% load, or something is seriously wrong.

maybe this engine requires a lot of internal bandwidth for some reason. i wonder if a new mobo/cpu/dd3ram combo would perform a lot better compared to my core2quad and ddr2 ram at same cycle speed (taking the 25% more performance per cycle of the new cpus into account). but i dont see a point upgrading, my cpu should be fine at least another year.

@Nail i do have everything else closed usualy. only things running are firewall, antivirus, trillian, everest and msi afterburner. all of which have basicaly 0 % cpu load while playing. disabling the second monitor also has no effect (its on a seperate geforce 210 card. got trillian and msi afterburner and everest on it to monitor temps and stuff).

turning off everest also had no effect. i will try disabling the AV and the rest but that would be the first time ever it caused any trouble for me.

(suntox) #17

holy crap… 60 to 100 fps :smiley: thanks a lot, can’t believe that stuff that is basicaly idle has such a major impact. seems brink realy is more picky then most other games.

now my second monitor is basicaly empty and i got no idea how the load or the temperatures are, but i guess i can life with that while playing brink :stroggbanana:

(aviynw) #18

[QUOTE=suntox;387539]holy crap… 60 to 100 fps :smiley: thanks a lot, can’t believe that stuff that is basicaly idle has such a major impact. seems brink realy is more picky then most other games.

now my second monitor is basicaly empty and i got no idea how the load or the temperatures are, but i guess i can life with that while playing brink :stroggbanana:[/QUOTE]

??? what did you disable that made it better for you?

(suntox) #19

funny, i can start the stuff again after starting brink and alt-tabbing to desktop. which is good as msi afterburner is controlling my fan speed.

so it is some sort of bug, as i only got the negative impact when its running while brink starts and not if i start the programs after brink starts (AV, firewall and msi afterburner).

(suntox) #20

yes, 60 to 140 fps now :smiley:

edit: oops. so exited :wink: i disabled firewall, antivirus, everest and msi afterburner. after starting brink i turn antivirus, firewall and msi back on.

this sounds like its everest fault, but it isnt. i cant have those 3 progs on when brink starts either. i got to start them after brink started.

strange bug. but so happy i know about it now :smiley:

now brink defenitely is one of the best shooters ever :smiley: