Grandeur SR is a beast now
Caulden has an extra round in the magazine
Aimee has a reduced cooldown
The biggest thing is the GSR, it’s super accurate now, and it’s insanely good. Whether it’s unbalanced I have yet to decide.
Well, G71 is the most buffed loadout of this patch
Dysfnal1
(Dysfnal)
#1
peculiarDestiny
(peculiarDestiny)
#2
You’re right about the Grandeur SR he is very very powerfull weapon now… but i still hate him its like a minigun-sniper just spam the enemy no metter what he will die from 2-4 shoots.
to sniper I using the MOA SNPR-1, I hate all thoes Auto-Snipers…
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#3
Hardly unbalanced imo, the only thing I’d change at this point is reducing clip size by 1, reducing the damage to 38, and adding a dot sight to the thing.
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#5
Depends on what you call a scope, I think ACOG, I don’t want a sniper scope on the thing, the Grandeur is a mid range weapon, so it should have something that gives is just a little bit of zoom, but not remove your awareness either.
An EO Tech sight would also do
TheStrangerous
(TheStrangerous)
#6
Finally, I enjoy using Grandeur.
A solid Primary, it’s like tap-firing Timik. 
Dysfnal1
(Dysfnal)
#7
Oh god don’t reduce the damage and add a scope, it would be a worse PDP
The iron sights; they are terrible, but it’s not a gun you should be using iron sights often with. I think an ACOG would be too much, they should only improve the iron sights already in place
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#8
[quote=“Dysfnal;203523”]Oh god don’t reduce the damage and add a scope, it would be a worse PDP
The iron sights; they are terrible, but it’s not a gun you should be using iron sights often with. I think an ACOG would be too much, they should only improve the iron sights already in place[/quote]
I’d strongly disagree, the Grandeur can hipfire, reload fast, and has a larger clip size. All of things the PDP does NOT have. Plus it’s much more mobile, I would argue, an ACOG or EO Tech sight would make it even better while aiming, and that we could also reduce the headshot damage multiplier instead of reducing the base damage, to balance out the gun entirely. This way we don’t have the gun one shotting Aura, Sparks, etc.
Dysfnal1
(Dysfnal)
#9
But it has Dreiss levels of damage, at which point it’s hardly a sniper.
I personally don’t like changing headshot mults for specific guns, I would imagine it feels inconsistent. It is more reasonable between classes of weaponry, like the shotguns having a 1.5 multiplier, but I still don’t like it. However, if the headshot multiplier was increased only for snipers, it would allow for opportunities to balance out the snipers (such as differentiating the Fel-ix and MOA). It would also make the PDP and grandeur more rewarding for good players, and less for bad players. Just my two cents
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#10
Um, what???
You do realize the grandeur kills everyone except thunder and thino in 2 headshots, can kill 120 hp mercs with 3 shots to the body, and can be hipfired quite accurately and do just fine.
No offense, but I think you really need to use the weapon more, cause it is not a sniper rifle, and it is not even close to the PDP. They are very different weapons.
Dysfnal1
(Dysfnal)
#11
“not a sniper rifle” yet it has much better ranged capability than the REVIVR which many consider to be a sniper-like weapon. The inaccuracy on the first shot is minimal, and you can be very consistent at long range of you let your bloom reset. None of those are attributes of an assault rifle.
“it can kill most of the cast in two headshots” the PDP can kill the entire cast with two headshots. The Felix and MOA can kill most of the cast in one headshot. They’re sniper rifles, they have high accuracy and burst potential at the cost of DPS. Now, I think the Grandeur, because of its high hipfire accuracy and high damage make it sniper enough. It doesn’t behave like an assault rifle.
I know it’s not the PDP, I’m not stupid, but giving the grandeur a scope and reducing the damage is not advisable to me. A sniper rifle should not be incapable of killing on a headshot, it completely defeats the purpose of it being called a sniper. At that point it’s a scoped Dreiss with high range.
Adding a scope would create balance issues, and you would likely have to sacrifice far too much killing potential when hipfiring in order to make it balanced, at which point the gun becomes redundant. The PDP does a much better job when ads, and the grandeur would see very little use. If adding a scope is going to negatively affect my use of hipfire (which I guarantee it will, there’s a reason most sniper rifles have horrendous hipfire bloom) it would only make me want to use a different gun.
I use mostly grandeur Aimee by the way, I know the gun relatively well I’d say
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#12
You dont seem to understand what the grandeur is, its a battle rifle, the only thing it can kill in a single headshot is aurs or sparks. It is a mid range weapon, always has been, it is meant to be tapped when hipfiring, and fired at it’s max rof when aiming down sight.
2 shot headshots are it’s bread and butter, even if we reduced the headshot multiplier from 2 to 1.85, it’d deal 74 damage on head shot, enough to kill everyone but Thunder and Rhino.
It does not need instant kills on lights, that’s the PDP’s job. It needs a good sight because the current ones are trash imo, we need a clearer picture if what we’re aiming at.
And when I say we need a sight, this is what I mean
Herr_Hanz
(Herr_Hanz)
#13
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;203639”]You dont seem to understand what the grandeur is, its a battle rifle, the only thing it can kill in a single headshot is aurs or sparks. It is a mid range weapon, always has been, it is meant to be tapped when hipfiring, and fired at it’s max rof when aiming down sight.
2 shot headshots are it’s bread and butter, even if we reduced the headshot multiplier from 2 to 1.85, it’d deal 74 damage on head shot, enough to kill everyone but Thunder and Rhino.
It does not need instant kills on lights, that’s the PDP’s job. It needs a good sight because the current ones are trash imo, we need a clearer picture if what we’re aiming at.
And when I say we need a sight, this is what I mean
slight correction, the Dirty Bomb wiki puts the grandeur as a sniper, and im sure they have reasons for it.
but its based on the m14 battle rifle tho
Someordinaryguy
(Someordinaryguy)
#14
I did some research and in concept models many weapons had more attachments/different attachments.
Grandeur seems to have something similar to an ACOG https://cdna0.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/866/984/large/ben-garnell-m14fpv.jpg?1434941946
Anyway, just throwing ideas for sights for guns:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/0/06/Bf4_2015-04-06_17-08-37-41.png/revision/latest?cb=20150407000957 <Grandeur sight (medium magnification, easy to use reticle)
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/c/cb/Bf4_2015-04-01_19-57-31-77.png/revision/latest?cb=20150402025840 Dreiss sight (no magnification/minor magnification, more open than Stark AR)
BR could have an EOTech
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/3/34/Bf4_2015-04-01_19-35-14-01.png/revision/latest?cb=20150402023705
Kobra for Crotzni
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/6/67/Bf4_2015-04-01_19-43-17-32.png/revision/latest?cb=20150402024409 Coyote for SMG-9
Just throwing ideas/inspiration, I do not want a copy&paste from Battlefield FYI xD
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#15
[quote=“Someordinaryguy;203662”]I did some research and in concept models many weapons had more attachments/different attachments.
Grandeur seems to have something similar to an ACOG https://cdna0.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/866/984/large/ben-garnell-m14fpv.jpg?1434941946
Anyway, just throwing ideas for sights for guns:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/0/06/Bf4_2015-04-06_17-08-37-41.png/revision/latest?cb=20150407000957 <Grandeur sight (medium magnification, easy to use reticle)
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/c/cb/Bf4_2015-04-01_19-57-31-77.png/revision/latest?cb=20150402025840 Dreiss sight (no magnification/minor magnification, more open than Stark AR)
BR could have an EOTech
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/3/34/Bf4_2015-04-01_19-35-14-01.png/revision/latest?cb=20150402023705
Kobra for Crotzni
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/6/67/Bf4_2015-04-01_19-43-17-32.png/revision/latest?cb=20150402024409 Coyote for SMG-9
Just throwing ideas/inspiration, I do not want a copy&paste from Battlefield FYI xD
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That’s the sight they put on the Aug, personally I want a small ass dot, but that’s just me.
LifeupOmega
(LifeupOmega)
#16
[quote=“Dysfnal;32250”]Grandeur SR is a beast now
Caulden has an extra round in the magazine
Aimee has a reduced cooldown
The biggest thing is the GSR, it’s super accurate now, and it’s insanely good. Whether it’s unbalanced I have yet to decide.[/quote]
Grandeur is only just a beast now? It’s always been amazing, but they just keep buffing it which is g l o r i o u s
Dysfnal1
(Dysfnal)
#17
@Watsyurdeal the the DE .50 can two shot headshot all the way up to Phoenix, and it’s not even the most powerful pistol, removing the Grandeurs ability to one shot headshot aura would also ruin the bodyshot/headshot combo that takes down so much of the cast, and makes the gun good
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#18
If it deals 76 damage on headshot, and 38 on a bodyshot, that’s 114 damage, meaning only Skyhammer, Arty, and Red Eye could survive, and against them you could just shoot their head twice.
Dawnlazy
(Dawnlazy)
#19
Really want clean sights like this. For the Grandeur and pretty much everything else.
BananaSlug
(BananaSlug)
#20
dreiss could get that, it would be a nice buff
but i dont think that gr needs scope, better sight, its a beast now and was a beast before buff, they should just leave it