Weapon shield any good?


(Darksider) #21

Crouch, In scope seems very effective with shield.


(Affe_mit_Waffe) #22

for all that dont understand this:

the shield blocks the bullets u cant shoot through the shield if they have cover for their feet they are invul from the front while they can still shoot at u that whats makes it so bad.

i had no problem if it was like a forceshield giving u some % of dmg reduction but its invul mode for campers


(Hortey) #23

I use a weapon shield when playing as a medium or heavy medic… and sometimes a heavy operative. Pair it with an auto shotty and it’s a devastating combo. It seems to cover your head from the front while you are ADS’d so it’s really good when you are able to hunker down next to some cover.

What’s sad is the amount of people who say this is only for campers, like they are mad that a heavy isn’t sprinting around spraying hopelessly with a carb 9 and spamming slide tackle like they are. When a heavy gets into a bad spot, his only choice is to hunker down and make due. For my medic he has the ability to hold out with his weapon shield and kill enough to retreat and heal, for my operative I usually go down the route of popping out of disguise in close range with an auto shotty, for my engineer I put a turret in front of my for cover and break out the minigun, and for my soldier I make clever use of my grenade launcher, flashbangs, and pyro nades to make THEM retreat.

It’s honestly not that great of an addon, but for medium medics and heavies… it is a great way to slow down their damage spikes so they can stay alive… which is why you pick the class in the first place.


(Hortey) #24

[QUOTE=Affe_mit_Waffe;365282]for all that dont understand this:

the shield blocks the bullets u cant shoot through the shield if they have cover for their feet they are invul from the front while they can still shoot at u that whats makes it so bad.

i had no problem if it was like a forceshield giving u some % of dmg reduction but its invul mode for campers[/QUOTE]

UAV, pyro nade, molotov, reg nade, m203 gl, slide tackle, wall jump around, flank, retreat, flashbang or use one of you few remaining brain cells to overcome this obstacle. People are so used to lights being the only good class so that when other classes get a buff all of a sudden you can’t overcome it. What it’s really doing is imparing the way you play, you liked sprinting around being the only good weight class only getting killed by other parkour fanatics hipfiring smg’s and slide tackling people into a coma… and now you have to use your head when you come across a class that actually has a chance at killing you.

Heavies vs lights felt like that for the longest time, the weapons were pathetic and the extra health didn’t make up for the larger/slower target that only got you hipfired down. I’ve been playing as both light and heavy for a long time, heavies now have the edge over light when they meet face to face, WHICH IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.


(Nexolate) #25

I’ve just been in to do some testing with a good friend of mine and we have the low down on what exactly the Weapon Shield does.

Basically, it functions exactly as you’d expect. If you shoot directly at the shield, it negates all the damage as if you were stood behind cover. Anywhere else though and it has no effect. The area covered by the shield isn’t that large, so it’s only a mild bonus.

I recall reading in one of the Beth-Blog posts that it would also reduce headshot damage. When testing, neither my friend nor I noticed any difference when he shot me in the head with a shielded or non-shielded weapon. Any one from the dev-team care to comment on this?

Regards,
Nexo


(wolfnemesis75) #26

Was your friend using ADS when you were shooting at his head?


(MrFoxer) #27

It blocks headshots, only from the front though, I don’t think you need to ADS for it to work. Kinda useless seeing as the only people who go for headshots are snipers.


(Tom12121112) #28

it doesnt block headshots per say, it blocks bullets in general. it works wonders for the rockstedi.


(Nexolate) #29

Yes. He was stood right next to me, ADS and shot me in the head once with a Gerund/Shield and once with a Kalt. Didn’t really notice any difference.

Regards,
Nexo


(Tom12121112) #30

the physical shield hitbox blocks bullets. so if you have someone ADS at you, then shoot them in the shield, the damage will be fully nullified.


(Affe_mit_Waffe) #31

[QUOTE=Hortey;365307]UAV, pyro nade, molotov, reg nade, m203 gl, slide tackle, wall jump around, flank, retreat, flashbang or use one of you few remaining brain cells to overcome this obstacle. People are so used to lights being the only good class so that when other classes get a buff all of a sudden you can’t overcome it. What it’s really doing is imparing the way you play, you liked sprinting around being the only good weight class only getting killed by other parkour fanatics hipfiring smg’s and slide tackling people into a coma… and now you have to use your head when you come across a class that actually has a chance at killing you.

Heavies vs lights felt like that for the longest time, the weapons were pathetic and the extra health didn’t make up for the larger/slower target that only got you hipfired down. I’ve been playing as both light and heavy for a long time, heavies now have the edge over light when they meet face to face, WHICH IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.[/QUOTE]

i have absolutly no problem with a buff for meds/heavys
but i realy have a problem with getting punished for having a good aim shooting heads while it makes almost no difference when u just spray at your enemy(when not behind cover)

as a light u already have to have better aiming and movement then a med/heavy u want to fight because a) your weapons do less dmg b) you die faster

nice to list some possible tacktics u put up there but what u forget those lame campers on the other side of the map that u can only kill efficient with headshots now they cant take any dmg non nada not a single scratch

it just feels very very wrong when someone can shoot u while u can do absolutly no dmg at him this only helps low skill players that cant win a regular fight while the skilled ppl with aiming get punished for heaving nuff training to hit the head no the whole body(shoutout to the drum mag spraying noobs)


(NthLegion) #32

I used the weapon shield for a couple of hours worth of matches. As already mentioned in this thread, it might increase survivability when crouched with lower body cover. But, in the normal course of gameplay, it didn’t really seem to help at all. Weapon spread being what it is, the shield maybe blocks a couple of bullets. And it absolutely destroys equip speed.

I wouldn’t worry too much about the weapon shield’s impact on the game. It’s probably going to join the silencer in the ranks of unused attachments.


(Affe_mit_Waffe) #33

you wont notice a big difference because there are 90% noobs in this game that cant shoot in a straight line but when u acctualy fight someone that aims for your head and fires bursts instead of just spray n pray u will notice a big difference


(Hot-Wire) #34

Aim for the legs lol, the head ain’t the only small target on the body that require skills. Anything that you aim for and hit requires skill.

But anyways, I nullified a grenade today with the shield.

You should try it too if it works for you guys.

If a grenade falls at your feet, stare at it while ADS with the shield. I actually took no damage…


(sanDIOkan) #35

oh! are there headshots?
looks so random to me (O-o)’’


(Hot-Wire) #36

You know to put the nail in the coffin someone can easily test this online…

Just have a friend with you that has a mic.

Join a game with friendly fire ON.

At the spawn tell him to shoot at your shield when you are not ADS to see if it actually protects you.

Chances are he’ll get minus points if he does damage to you… or you can simply tell him he is hurting you.

Then test ADS and see if you are 100% immune to headshots or is it only around the head area, do headshots are still possible.

Just a thought guys :).


(FireWorks) #37

while testing this, please also try the angles how far it protects.


(Ghostdog) #38

The effect on equip speed is enormous. Don’t know if it’s just my imagination but I also got the impression it makes you move slower too.

Still not sure if it’s worth killing equip speed for (and sacrificing the launcher attachment).


(Humate) #39

Lotto spread makes that thing redundant.


(Tom12121112) #40

ok guys, just skip past all my posts, ok?

the shield itself blocks damage. if you hit the shield, the guy wont get hurt. there is no super l33t ability to negate headshots whenever the hell you want with it, it just negates bullets that hit it.

also:

lol@ that waffle guy complaining about campers in brink.