[Weapon idea] P90


(dynamicOctagon) #1

Think about it, the P90 would fit the medic class extremely well aswel with any assaulters like proxy.

“Posh 90”
Class specification: PDW
Magazine size; 50
SPM: 550
DPS: 15 body 10 legs 60 head
Reload time: 2 seconds
Accuracy: 40% while moving 80% standing still
Recoil: minimal


(CCP115) #2

I like the name.

That’s about it. Would it be an SMG? Kinda bulky, most SMGs are small and light. I dunno… I am skeptical.


(Gi.Am) #3

The name is indeed nice.

The stats are a little bit shady tho.
Damage: First the game only has one damage stat. body damage, head is simply double of that. I assume 15 per bullet damage (btw. DPS usually means damage per second around here and would be crazy low). Paired with 550 RPM (rounds per minute again prefered term).

That would have it sit roughly at the same area as a blishlok (slightly weaker, slightly faster). However those stats match up with the ARs in the game. But you give it more bullets than both of them, and it seems a lower recoil aswell. So how exactly would you balance out that gun against other SMGs and the ARs?

Talking about accuracy is a bit complicated and can’t be expressed with a simple percent number. Best way right now is to compair it to other guns in the game. But since it is pretty much the only stat that is left to balance it would need to have worse accuracy than a blishlok to compensate for the overall better stats.

Personaly I feel the way the P90 is usually portrait in games that a balanced version would be pretty close to the Hochfir (high capacity, high ROF, low damage, high accuracy).
maybe a slight decrease in ROF and a little more damage instead. Which would bring it right between the Hochfir and the Kek 10 with zero margin to balance any of them in the future.

Balancing is hard.

Anyways with the weapon roster so crowded (statswise) I would rather, like to see alternative weapon models for existing weapons (maybe via special weapon loadout cards?). That you then could switch out but would fire the same as the original (keeping balancing issues to a minimum and giving desirable cosmetics).

PS. when it comes to high capacity SMGs I prefer the Bison.


(Szakalot) #4

60 damage to the head, lolololol


(dynamicOctagon) #5

What else would it do? Tickle you? it’s Belgian, it’s supposed to be OP. XD


(omegaskorpion) #6

I kinda have suggested this weapon already (in a post that has about 15 other weapons suggested same time)
[and there are also those other 1000 people who have suggested this weapon so no judging)

But these stats ideas are pretty… well bad damage and fire rate is dont work that well when the rifles in this game fire the rate of 550-535 and only deal 14 damage.

Also headshot damage multiplier in this game is 2x not 6x. (so 15 damage deals 30 headshot damage)

Also P90 is high fire rate weapon with a 5.7 cadrige that is powerful, but not as powerful as a rifle round. (it is still more powerful than a normal .45 acp or 9mm)

And just like GI.Am said, it would be more close to hockfir smg in stat wise (real life name mp5)

[quote=“extravagentBypass;37443”]I like the name.

That’s about it. Would it be an SMG? Kinda bulky, most SMGs are small and light. I dunno… I am skeptical.[/quote]

P90 is small and light, but ist not called smg because it fires armor piercing rounds, real weapon gategory to this weapon is PDW (personal defence weapon) just like mp7.


(modernFountain) #7

[quote=“dynamicOctagon;13358”]Think about it, the P90 would fit the medic class extremely well aswel with any assaulters like proxy.

“Posh 90”
Class specification: PDW
Magazine size; 50
SPM: 550
DPS: 15 body 10 legs 60 head
Reload time: 2 seconds
Accuracy: 40% while moving 80% standing still
Recoil: minimal
[/quote]

I bet you are a phantom player who cant get kills even with him , cuz this idea is basically - IM BAD GUYS!! LATS MAKE WEAPON THAT WILL BE SUPER EASY TO USE AND DAMN MINI NUKE LIKE OP, MMKEY? — that damage ;D that magazine size ;D… dude i see you play cs:go too much , bud this aint cs:go … you gotta have a skills in this game not spray and pray for the best hest fest nest okes?


(omegaskorpion) #8

[quote=“modernFountain;47573”][quote=“dynamicOctagon;13358”]Think about it, the P90 would fit the medic class extremely well aswel with any assaulters like proxy.

“Posh 90”
Class specification: PDW
Magazine size; 50
SPM: 550
DPS: 15 body 10 legs 60 head
Reload time: 2 seconds
Accuracy: 40% while moving 80% standing still
Recoil: minimal
[/quote]

I bet you are a phantom player who cant get kills even with him , cuz this idea is basically - IM BAD GUYS!! LATS MAKE WEAPON THAT WILL BE SUPER EASY TO USE AND DAMN MINI NUKE LIKE OP, MMKEY? — that damage ;D that magazine size ;D… dude i see you play cs:go too much , bud this aint cs:go … you gotta have a skills in this game not spray and pray for the best hest fest nest okes?[/quote]

I woul say nice troll. But you have to realize that this was suggested long before phantom even came out. (and no it does not make it best idea ever, either)


(KattiValk) #9

The P90 fires the glorious Belgium 5.7 round (which also has a pistol to its name if you didn’t know, though no one uses it because the Ruskies tested and found 9mm/.45 both are perfectly fine for punching through helmets, though neither are too hot against ceramic inserts) and is hailed for its innovative shape and unique loading and cartridge ejection (total ambidextrous functionality without needing to swap ejection ports). It has (normally) a 900 RPM cyclic rate of fire with a relatively average effective firing range for a PDW.

Transfer that into game stats and you’ll get something fairly viable IMO.


(Eox) #10

60 damage in the head (litterally ignoring the universal x2 damage multiplier for headshots), mag of 50, RPM superior to Timik… This is overpowered.

Stay in the outlines of the game. And a SMG shouldn’t be that powerful.