Was Thunder OP with EMP + Flash Grenade

(Szakalot) #21

@bgyoshi said:

@Melinder said:

@Eox said:

Fragger’s grenade is fairly predictable, can’t be outright tossed at your face mid fight without penality and doesn’t have stupidly broken hitboxes or game mechanics that will blind you and your whole team without even seeing the projectile on your screen. That’s the reason. Thunder is completely unfair. Fragger, much less.

This, as well as the fact that Fragger’s grenade can be completely absorbed by one person if the team is positioned somewhat behind them, whereas the concussion will hit you all regardless. Also, if the concussion grenade is not close enough to stun you, it will still most likely blind you.

Once I learned how to rush a Thunder and turn away from a conc, I stopped getting “surprised”

I’d also be pretty rich if I had a dollar for every time a conc nade blew up in my face and did literally nothing. It’s p broken

not convinced, a good thunder will pop the nade in your leg area, even if you look away the slowdown effect is enough to make you toast

(bgyoshi) #22

@Szakalot said:

not convinced, a good thunder will pop the nade in your leg area, even if you look away the slowdown effect is enough to make you toast

I’d be p rich if I got a dollar every time I killed a full health good Thunder while under conc effects.

Outside of 5v5, he’s pretty average and his conc is below average.

(Szakalot) #23

sounds like you just bad thunders tbh, 170hp and toptier weapon can be terrifying, even disregarding conc nade.

i would say though that on pubs thunder will not seem as crazy OP if there is no medic present

(bgyoshi) #24

@Szakalot said:
sounds like you just bad thunders tbh, 170hp and toptier weapon can be terrifying, even disregarding conc nade.

i would say though that on pubs thunder will not seem as crazy OP if there is no medic present

It’s not so much that those Thunders are bad, as it is that Thunder can’t 3v1.

3v1 doesn’t really happen in Comp…ever

(Sorotia) #25

@ImSploosh said:
That was my favorite part about him. I hate the EMP on Phantom, it does more harm than good most of the time. It lets people know you’re there stalking them. :frowning:

I’d like to see it go back on Thunder, but maybe increase his cooldown? I can’t remember if the EMP just temporarily stopped deployables or if it destroyed them, but I just know it was useful and made Thunder feel useful. I think people were actually asking for a buff for Thunder previously, before the changes. I’d have to search the forums a bit more because I’ve mostly forgotten about all the Thunder stuff.

Yeah…the only positive it has really is if you’re on something with multiple levels…like the first part of Trainyard and if a Phantom sneaks under the bridge yet his EMP still disables everything above him.