Warning - flipped triangles


(damocles) #1

I know it’s only a warning but I think it’s the source of all the woes in my map at the moment.

I have two main problems…

  1. Weird clips where there is nothing. Mostly this happens on terrain where I wall walk up a slope and suddenly find a clip that isn’t in the map in radiant. It’s as if the next terrain triangle is extending beyond it’s edge somehow. And sometimes I get a lack of clip. I had a stircase that I could fall though on one step. However, which step it was would change per compile :confused:

  2. Faces disappearing seemingly randomly. It seems to randomly pick a face from a selection of faces and make them disappear. I deleted this small area of brushes that is affected and rebuilt them from scratch and the error has returned :confused: It’s not entire brushes vanishing, just the occasional face. Funny thing is, it’s never a single trangle, it’s always pairs of trangles that form rectangular shapes.

So what exactly causes flipped triangles and how do I fix it?

I am wondering if it is to do with my water brush. My water brush also has fog properties and I noticed in another fog brush (which is now deleted) that it splits the terrain along the fog brush faces. So I guess my water brush is doing the same it’s just harder to notice. Is there a way to stop the fog/water brush splitting the terrain into a mess? But if it is this that’s causing it - then it doesn’t make sense. because the disappearing faces problem is nowhere near the fog/water brush :confused: Perhaps they are two unrelated proplems.

I took the coordinates of a flipped triangle and attempted to locate it in Radiant and near as I can figure it’s a terrain triangle that is not inside the fog/water brush at all. But that was one flipped triangle of about 8.


(The5thHorsemen) #2

I had that once.

it was an upside down terrian … :weird:

I was messing around making a cave celling with easy-gen and forgot to unlink the terrian …

during compile I got that message …but the terian even upside down seemed to look ok…

the pcx alpha says one thing and the terrian is saying another thing ?..

youre running into caulk brush’s it sound like…

not sure if that’s wht you have going on,
but I guess it could happen if you move the terrian entitiey around an it doesn’t match up with the pcx alpha …

agin in Gtk I think under the help key is a link to the original Paul J terrian manual with a list of trouble shooting fix’s for terrian problems like that.